Mitch Marner, Yet Again

[Leaf Fans]

Hard to believe how much Berube played the #1 PP late in the game last night with the open net. I get it you want the point and you got it but at one point Marner was hunched over at the SJ blueline while the play was around the SJ net. Tells me that the second PP unit is all but useless when it counts and its is the same old same old. It is all about the core 4 and odds are they will not be able to beat a deeper team if they can cancel out our top 6.

They were being embarrassed by the Sharks I don't blame him for riding their horses until they froth at the mouth.

 

[francis246]

How often have they ran 5 forwards? How well has this worked out for them? Even with Keefe they hardly ever played Marner as a Dman, it was never a serious thing.

If you have 5 forwards on the PP, the idea is that they will control the puck, first man back isn't a big consideration and if and when you do think about it, you'd at least want someone who can skate fast.

The PP is clicking like crazy right now, so it’s obviously working and coaches are always thinking of every possible situation. You have to have systems in play to defend any situation that might happen. To say it’s not a big consideration just isn’t true. Last night is a prime example. I’m sure you’ve been around hockey and sports, most coaches are prepared for every situation that can happen, you have systems in place so that when they do happen you can be prepared.

 

[francis246]

Hard to believe how much Berube played the #1 PP late in the game last night with the open net. I get it you want the point and you got it but at one point Marner was hunched over at the SJ blueline while the play was around the SJ net. Tells me that the second PP unit is all but useless when it counts and its is the same old same old. It is all about the core 4 and odds are they will not be able to beat a deeper team if they can cancel out our top 6.

Late in the game do you want our horses out there or do you have Domi and the second unit out there? I want our top guys. They give us the best shot to win. So I don’t have a problem with Berube pushing for the tie.

 

[ToneDog]

Late in the game do you want our horses out there or do you have Domi and the second unit out there? I want our top guys. They give us the best shot to win. So I don’t have a problem with Berube pushing for the tie.

It worked last night against the worst team in the league. Doubt we see the same results against Florida, Tampa or Ottawa in round #1. You have to have a plan B or at least give them a shot to allow plan A to rest IMO.

 

[GoonieFace]

The pass to Nylander was nice, the other two were just chucking wrist shots at the net, a skill pretty much any competent NHL player has. He has to start scoring if they want to go anywhere in the playoffs.

 

[Leaf Fans]

The pass to Nylander was nice, the other two were just chucking wrist shots at the net, a skill pretty much any competent NHL player has. He has to start scoring if they want to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Mike Green can shoot the puck for perfect tips too. I mean he could also shoot the puck, but the tip shot was a speciality of him too.

 

[DarkKnight]

First assist, exactly what you want see on the PP, decisive, get the puck on the net. Such an upgrade on Reilly on the point. Nylander assist was sublime and the JT one he read the tip was available, perfect situational awareness. Anyone undermining his assists is a stone cold low IQ hockey commentator. Period. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Smif]

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Distance from net playoffs:

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Mcdavid on Marner: Mitch the playmaker kind of plays up high in the zone @1:35:


Mitch Marner location of points vs last place San Jose (all with Tavares, knies, Nylander and Matthews, two with man advantage):
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Looking forward to another playoffs of Mitch the Perimeter Man Marner.

Lmao, he plays the point on the man advantage, wth?? I honestly think you think you give good analysis but it's gotta be the worst around here, I'm actually astonished you went through all that hard work on a post and Marner is doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.

 

[Smif]

The 5 forward PP has been pretty good but in the playoffs I can see them giving up a shortie like they did last night. Mitch, Willie and Matty could not defend a 2 on 3 allowing a guy I have never heard of, score the go ahead goal.

I actually thought it could've been a penalty on Goodrow, be interfered with Marner trying to defend the partial 2on1.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I can respect your motor you don’t let up for nothing my friend

on an unrelated note, can he center a 3rd line?

definitely not asking for the leafs

 

[Gary Nylund]

The PP is clicking like crazy right now, so it’s obviously working and coaches are always thinking of every possible situation. You have to have systems in play to defend any situation that might happen. To say it’s not a big consideration just isn’t true. Last night is a prime example. I’m sure you’ve been around hockey and sports, most coaches are prepared for every situation that can happen, you have systems in place so that when they do happen you can be prepared.

If you say so. Like I said, I haven't heard this mentioned once in 50+ years myself.

 

[ToneDog]

The pass to Nylander was nice, the other two were just chucking wrist shots at the net, a skill pretty much any competent NHL player has. He has to start scoring if they want to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Full credit for his assists last night but his goal scoring is clearly trending down. I watched Kutch last night and he does not shy away from the dirty areas like Marner does. Until Marner starts going to the net and shooting closer to the net, he's not scoring many goals. For a guy who wants $13+m, he's dilutional.

 

[Gary Nylund]

The 5 forward PP has been pretty good but in the playoffs I can see them giving up a shortie like they did last night. Mitch, Willie and Matty could not defend a 2 on 3 allowing a guy I have never heard of, score the go ahead goal.

Wow! Now I'm, even more happy I missed this one.

I was thinking I hate to miss this one. Race for 1st, surely everyone's motivated now with playoffs around the corner etc., I want to watch every minute of every game going forward, but I just couldn't last night.

And they come up with a stinker like this, WTF? I'm reminded of what O'Dog said a while back - this is not a serious team.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Wow! Now I'm, even more happy I missed this one.

I was thinking I hate to miss this one. Race for 1st, surely everyone's motivated now with playoffs around the corner etc., I want to watch every minute of every game going forward, but I just couldn't last night.

And they come up with a stinker like this, WTF? I'm reminded of what O'Dog said a while back - this is not a serious team.

Why? It's the Leafs

 

[Stringer Bell]

For us to win more playoff games, Marner HAS to find a way to score more goals.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Full credit for his assists last night but his goal scoring is clearly trending down. I watched Kutch last night and he does not shy away from the dirty areas like Marner does. Until Marner starts going to the net and shooting closer to the net, he's not scoring many goals. For a guy who wants $13+m, he's dilutional.

There are rumours of that number but unfortunately Marner doesn't want to negotiate during the season.

 

[Metroid]

The problem with Marner isn't his performance.

The problem with Marner is his attitude. He must have the smallest dick on the team. His insecurities make him jealous and petty.

I smell projection here

 

[arso40]

You’re embarrassing yourself with such misguided comments.

The coaches have assigned Marner to play the point when the Leafs have a man advantage. Do you think he should just abandon this and go stand in front of the net?

Marner singlehandedly saved an entire nation during the Four Nations Cup. Game winning overtime goal in Game 1 and without that Canada would not have qualified for the playoffs. Then two picture-perfect assists in the championship game.

And yet you’re still trying to fabricate nonsensical complaints about his performance at Four Nations.

You and I both know this is a crock of shit. Even for you. He’s on the point because he’s the most defensively responsible. He’ll be first man back. Especially in a 5 man configuration.

Who does he replace if we have an actual defencemen please tell me everything I said was the truth who do you take off Hes skill is wasted at the bumper and we literally have better players for the position everywhere else and your not replacing Matthews no matter if Hes injured or not

 

[Smif]

Who does he replace if we have an actual defencemen please tell me everything I said was the truth who do you take off Hes skill is wasted at the bumper and we literally have better players for the position everywhere else and your not replacing Matthews no matter if Hes injured or not

In prior years he was a fixture on the half boards. Him on one side, Matthews on the other, Nylander was high slot, JT was net front.

 

[Leaf Fans]

For us to win more playoff games, Marner HAS to find a way to score more goals.

Absolutely no doubt about that.

 

[Leaf Fans]

In prior years he was a fixture on the half boards. Him on one side, Matthews on the other, Nylander was high slot, JT was net front.

I like JT in the bumper.

 

[arso40]

What does that have to do with the PP configuration?

We’ve seen Marner on the half wall and bumper slots throughout his leaf career and he’s done fine and has never had any issues producing on the PP. according to Mr. Stats Demi-God, he doesn’t produce 5 on 5 anyways, gets most of his points from the PP.

We know why he’s back there, it’s to open shooting lanes for Matthews and Nylander and for him to be last man back.

Not disagreeing with that but marners best attribute is passing so he needs to be on the half wall he can play the bumper but that’s not where he should play so he’s playing the top would you replace nylander and put him in that spot? I guess you could move Matthews to the bumper and put marner in his spot but I think they want Matthews on his offside in one timer position so again he kinda has to play the top or be off the pp1

 

[ACC1224]

First assist, exactly what you want see on the PP, decisive, get the puck on the net. Such an upgrade on Reilly on the point. Nylander assist was sublime and the JT one he read the tip was available, perfect situational awareness. Anyone undermining his assists is a stone cold low IQ hockey commentator. Period. Stop embarrassing yourself.

History has shown they can't help themselves.

 

[arso40]

Whatever term you want to use, you’re being nitpicky about the term. Typically whoever is on the point is responsible for defending short handed rushes yes? They are closest to the blue line, therefore they have the added responsibility of defending against short handed rushes, yes? Additionally they are responsible for holding the line, yes or no? You want to argue about semantics about the terminology, go for it.

Do you honestly think coaches don’t think about rush chances against on the PP?

Do you think marner is best suited for the point? Like our best option on the team?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Why? It's the Leafs

Why what, what's your question?