Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Yet Again

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We need to re-sign Mitch for sure. We're not winning anything with him or without him. But we will need all the assets we can possibly have in order to have a competent rebuild.

Just make sure there are no NMC or NTC in the last couple of years if we sign him long term.

I doubt his team wants a long term deal though. Too much money to be made.
One of the highest jersey sales/60 in the league. Seriously, if you sign him, you have to have the option to move off this core for the entire contract. Look at how we are stuck with Rielly for the next how many years?

There are reports that he wants to stay. In fact, he is quoted as saying that. I haven't heard anything thing about him wanting a "free agent tour" but on July first he will have earned the right to choose free agency.
Tavares said he wanted to stay on the Island. How did that go for the Isles?
 
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There are reports that he wants to stay. In fact, he is quoted as saying that. I haven't heard anything thing about him wanting a "free agent tour" but on July first he will have earned the right to choose free agency.

You missed the reports then.
The guy wants the most money. Johnston just reported the leafs were willing to go to $13M and he isn't having it because he wants to go to free agency.
 
One of the highest jersey sales/60 in the league. Seriously, if you sign him, you have to have the option to move off this core for the entire contract. Look at how we are stuck with Rielly for the next how many years?


Tavares said he wanted to stay on the Island. How did that go for the Isles?
Sure, players can change their minds. Mostly, though players that say they want stay, do stay. Tavares didn't and tye Isles went to two consecutive conference finals. So I suppose it worked out OK,

You missed the reports then.
The guy wants the most money. Johnston just reported the leafs were willing to go to $13M and he isn't having it because he wants to go to free agency.
He might want that but no tour.
 
Sure, players can change their minds. Mostly, though players that say they want stay, do stay. Tavares didn't and tye Isles went to two consecutive conference finals. So I suppose it worked out OK,


He might want that but no tour.
Lol dude. There's no difference. Take your emotion out of it for a second. Reports are he's willing to go to free agency and flirt with teams to see who the highest bidder is.

 
Lol dude. There's no difference. Take your emotion out of it for a second. Reports are he's willing to go to free agency and flirt with teams to see who the highest bidder is.


I don't have any emotion about the situation. I don't care if Marner chooses free agency or if he signs. If he gets to July 1st. He will be free to do so. He won't be a Leaf at that point.
 
You missed the reports then.
The guy wants the most money. Johnston just reported the leafs were willing to go to $13M and he isn't having it because he wants to go to free agency.

Lol no he didn’t. Last night on overdrive CJ said there hasn’t even been any negotiations, the leafs don’t know Marner’s price atm. Maybe that’s the price they have set for themselves internally that they are comfortable going to on a he’s willing to negotiate
 
I don't have any emotion about the situation. I don't care if Marner chooses free agency or if he signs. If he gets to July 1st. He will be free to do so. He won't be a Leaf at that point.

Clearly you do. You're defending him when my original point was him and his agent have been giving off so much noise for 2 negotiations and he's letting it known he will go to free agency for the highest bidder. He wants his money plain and simple.
 
I don't have any emotion about the situation. I don't care if Marner chooses free agency or if he signs. If he gets to July 1st. He will be free to do so. He won't be a Leaf at that point.
Who are you going to replace for Marner? It would be a huge loss and the Leafs won't just be eliminated 1st round, they won't even make the playoffs.
 
Clearly you do. You're defending him when my original point was him and his agent have been giving off so much noise for 2 negotiations and he's letting it known he will go to free agency for the highest bidder. He wants his money plain and simple.
I am not defending him. In fact, I mentioned it Was Nylander who held out which is what you didn't recollect. Marner took things to the brink, but was there day one of training camp. That is just a fact.
 
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I don't have any emotion about the situation. I don't care if Marner chooses free agency or if he signs. If he gets to July 1st. He will be free to do so. He won't be a Leaf at that point.

From some of the reporting it sounds like he has told the leafs he’s going to test free agency. But there’s people who believe it will be a Stamkos situation where he comes back.

He’s earned his UFA status, so he’s not breaking any rules by going. Sounds like he’s still open to just seeing what’s out there but also open to returning. It’s not what fans want and they don’t have to give him grace for going that route. But it’s well within his rights.

We as Toronto fans though have benefitted from it when Tavares did it and we lost out when Stamkos did it. So we’ll see how it plays out with Marner.
 
From some of the reporting it sounds like he has told the leafs he’s going to test free agency. But there’s people who believe it will be a Stamkos situation where he comes back.

He’s earned his UFA status, so he’s not breaking any rules by going. Sounds like he’s still open to just seeing what’s out there but also open to returning. It’s not what fans want and they don’t have to give him grace for going that route. But it’s well within his rights.

We as Toronto fans though have benefitted from it when Tavares did it and we lost out when Stamkos did it. So we’ll see how it plays out with Marner.
He might. Though I haven't heard anything about a tour. Besides, he can choose to become a free agent. If he goes elsewhere, good luck to him.
 
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I am not defending him. In fact, I mentioned it Was Nylander who held out which is what you didn't recollect. Marner took things to the brink, but was there day one of training camp. That is just a fact.
And then I explained to you how it was Marner and his agent who created havoc in the media for 2 negotiations, not Willy or Matthews. That is just fact. Willy and Matthews both wanted to be here and signed. Marner "wants to be here" but threatens through media he will go to FA - which clearly gives the impression he wants big $$$ and doesn't want what Leafs are currently offering.
 
He might. Though I haven't heard anything about a tour. Besides, he can choose to become a free agent. If he goes elsewhere, good luck to him.

Me neither, haven’t heard anything about a tour, just that he earned the right to test and wants to explore that and while it’s not the greatest feeling as a fan, it’s his right as a player under the NHL CBA.
 
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Who are you going to replace for Marner? It would be a huge loss and the Leafs won't just be eliminated 1st round, they won't even make the playoffs.
He probably leaves if they flame out in the playoffs. Hopefully Bennett, Ehlers, Chychrun are available. Boeser and Nelson probably go elsewhere. I'd be interested in Marchand at the right price.
 
And then I explained to you how it was Marner and his agent who created havoc in the media for 2 negotiations, not Willy or Matthews. That is just fact. Willy and Matthews both wanted to be here and signed. Marner "wants to be here" but threatens through media he will go to FA - which clearly gives the impression he wants big $$$ and doesn't want what Leafs are currently offering.
You mentioned that earlier. It is not substantiated. He was blind sided by the media after the game in Colorado, and said he wouldn't discuss it with the media.

Who are you going to replace for Marner? It would be a huge loss and the Leafs won't just be eliminated 1st round, they won't even make the playoffs.
I have no idea. What will happen, but it is a possibility that he will choose free agency. As a fan, I will continue to support the Leafs.
 
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And then I explained to you how it was Marner and his agent who created havoc in the media for 2 negotiations, not Willy or Matthews. That is just fact. Willy and Matthews both wanted to be here and signed. Marner "wants to be here" but threatens through media he will go to FA - which clearly gives the impression he wants big $$$ and doesn't want what Leafs are currently offering.

There has been no formal offers. Zero. They have not been negotiating. We’ve learned yesterday Marner’s camp has been up front with the leafs about his intentions to test UFA, he didn’t lie to them. He didn’t blindside them or take them for a ride. It seems now, Toronto is desperate to make a deal happen and Marner’s side is just sticking to what they’ve expressed since training camp.

CJ said on Overdrive last night, the leafs have no idea what Marner’s number is. Marner hasn’t rejected anything from the leafs cause there’s been nothing to reject.

To Marner’s credit, this time around he has not negotiated through the media, he’s kept stuff quiet and he got blindsided after Colorado with questions about his contract / NMC.
 
One of the highest jersey sales/60 in the league. Seriously, if you sign him, you have to have the option to move off this core for the entire contract. Look at how we are stuck with Rielly for the next how many years?

Stuck with him? One of the best playoff performers for us, we don't care about the regular season here (kidding, this board is filled with hypocrites)
 
There has been no formal offers. Zero. They have not been negotiating. We’ve learned yesterday Marner’s camp has been up front with the leafs about his intentions to test UFA, he didn’t lie to them. He didn’t blindside them or take them for a ride. It seems now, Toronto is desperate to make a deal happen and Marner’s side is just sticking to what they’ve expressed since training camp.

CJ said on Overdrive last night, the leafs have no idea what Marner’s number is. Marner hasn’t rejected anything from the leafs cause there’s been nothing to reject.

To Marner’s credit, this time around he has not negotiated through the media, he’s kept stuff quiet and he got blindsided after Colorado with questions about his contract / NMC.

We won't know for sure and it doesn't really matter when it comes to my point. He's threatening to go to FA and him and his agent again are using the media. You don't want to talk about negotiations in-season but have your agent spill in the media. Laughable.

You didn't have to explain anything, I did say what about Nylander. It was you who didn't recall " this kind of mess with Nylander or Matthews."
Again, I explained the difference. You are moving goal posts cuz you seem confused lol Stop spinning your wheels and being emotional lol
 
We won't know for sure and it doesn't really matter when it comes to my point. He's threatening to go to FA and him and his agent again are using the media. You don't want to talk about negotiations in-season but have your agent spill in the media. Laughable.
What has his agent done to use the media?

We won't know for sure and it doesn't really matter when it comes to my point. He's threatening to go to FA and him and his agent again are using the media. You don't want to talk about negotiations in-season but have your agent spill in the media. Laughable.


Again, I explained the difference. You are moving goal posts cuz you seem confused lol Stop spinning your wheels and being emotional lol
No, I have stayed the course. You brought it up in Post #2,896. I am not at all influenced by this Internet rhetoric.
 
We won't know for sure and it doesn't really matter when it comes to my point. He's threatening to go to FA and him and his agent again are using the media. You don't want to talk about negotiations in-season but have your agent spill in the media. Laughable.


Again, I explained the difference. You are moving goal posts cuz you seem confused lol Stop spinning your wheels and being emotional lol

what has his agent spilled in the media? Marner came out day 1 in training camp and said to the media and fans, he's not negotiating, he's focused on this season and nothing else. I don't know why fans are now acting surprised that he's going to test UFA?? Also as you said, we don't know for sure. It could be the leafs who put that out or Ferris or anyone. But I dont think it's earth shattering news that he's going to test. It's kinda why everyone was screaming for the leafs to make a move in 2023 after florida. We all saw it coming.
 

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