Value of: Mitch Marner this offseason (2.5 mil retained)

[Izzy Goodenough]

Marner for Huberdeau would likely cripple both teams but would otherwise be poetic justice...

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[seanlinden]

Call me crazy... but the list of teams inquiring about Mitch Marner would be long... very long...

I think most teams realize that something needs to change in Toronto, and he probably can't be "THE GUY"... but if you're a strong team, with a strong identity, like Carolina, or even Boston, and have an opportunity to bring in a premier talent like Marner at age 26; you do not pass up on that opportunity because his confidence is a little shot.

The challenge of course, is that Marner has full control with his NMC... so will get to pick his destination -- somewhere that he's presumably interested in re-signing.

Teams that jump out to me as likely possibilities (which Marner would presumably be interested in).

Los Angeles Kings
Carolina Hurricanes
Dallas Stars
New York Islanders
Washingotn Capitals
St. Louis Blues

 

[Leafs87]

good/great player but I don't think he would get the value that Leafs fans expect.

I don’t think the Leafs expect he will net a huge return. Most understand his contract situation. He’s a tough guy to gage value on as he could be a great rental with retention seeing as his actual $ amount is basically nothing, but given his recent playoffs I can see the hesitation. I think at this point the reason to trade Marner is just for a fresh start and redistribution of cap more than anything else.

 

[seanlinden]

Expect a package deal, similar to what buffalo got for eichel. Like a 1st round pick a roster player mid 20s and previous high draft pick prospect.

Honestly... that's probably what the Leafs need... to become less top-heavy. To let it be Matthews running one line, Nylander another, and a bunch of other guys that are regularily relied upon to contribute instead of isolating to the big 3/4.

The challenge wont be getting the value out of Marner. It's that they really need a defenceman, and it'll end up being a very small "market" for him given that he has control.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Habs: Marner (retained) signs extension

Leafs: Seth Jones + Hawks 34th oa

Hawks: 5th oa

Everybody wins

He may not get you through the playoffs, but he can get you there and with an extension I'd be fine with it.

Would like to send Armia to a team in it just to ease the cap hit for this season a bit.

Call me crazy... but the list of teams inquiring about Mitch Marner would be long... very long...

I think most teams realize that something needs to change in Toronto, and he probably can't be "THE GUY"... but if you're a strong team, with a strong identity, like Carolina, or even Boston, and have an opportunity to bring in a premier talent like Marner at age 26; you do not pass up on that opportunity because his confidence is a little shot.

The challenge of course, is that Marner has full control with his NMC... so will get to pick his destination -- somewhere that he's presumably interested in re-signing.

Teams that jump out to me as likely possibilities (which Marner would presumably be interested in).

Los Angeles Kings
Carolina Hurricanes
Dallas Stars
New York Islanders
Washingotn Capitals
St. Louis Blues

LA has 20 mill to finish out their roster which includes 5 forwards, 2 d and 2 goalies, so that's unlikely.

Carolina needs 5 forwards, 3 d, so very possible, but Carolina has some real good RFAs and UFAs.

Dallas needs 2 forwards, 3d and 1 goalie.

Islanders don't really have much in terms of assets. They need a handful of players and only have 5 mill.

Capitals don't have much unless they're trading Leonard. Caps are over the cap for next season, but that might not include Backstrom and Oshie may LTIRetire

Blues have the assets and cap space to go for it.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Habs: Marner (retained) signs extension

Leafs: Seth Jones + Hawks 34th oa

Hawks: 5th oa

Everybody wins

Feels like almost no one wins here:

-Marner would reset Montreal's entire salary scale and I highly doubt anyone in the league thinks he's "the guy", even if he's an elite complementary player. It would basically be the Tavares situation for Montreal at best. Marner also isn't the style of player they'd target and they aren't in a position to make a move like that.

-Seth Jones isn't as overpaid as some may think, but part of the reason Toronto would move Marner is to spread out there spending a bit more. Acquiring Jones doesn't do that.

-Marner and Jones have NMCs. Marner is a Toronto guy, the idea that he would waive his NMC and re-sign in Montreal is incredibly farfetched. Jones apparently wants to be in the US.

 

[Mrfenn92]

He may not get you through the playoffs, but he can get you there and with an extension I'd be fine with it.

Would like to send Armia to a team in it just to ease the cap hit for this season a bit.

Armia would be able to go to the hawks easily in this type of deal.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

No chance.....Sorokin is staying. Want no part of cry baby Marner....


Even Lou wouldn't be interested. If you know anything about Lou, he's defense first. He's not moving Sorokin....especially for Marner.

Mitch Marner isn’t being traded 1-1 for a goalie. I don’t care how good Sorokin is.

 

[Matthews4Calder]

that might be a fun trade

I mentioned that the other day. I would do that in a heartbeat. Goalie problem solved and then you work on the D. JT off the books after 1 more year and you got another chunk of cap money to do something.

 

[Glorydays22]

Mitch Marner isn’t being traded 1-1 for a goalie. I don’t care how good Sorokin is.

Good we agree, Isles and Toronto are not a match at all.

 

[Warh1ppy]

Mitch Marner isn’t being traded 1-1 for a goalie. I don’t care how good Sorokin is.

Sorokin is good?

 

[General Fanager]

I don’t think the Leafs expect he will net a huge return. Most understand his contract situation. He’s a tough guy to gage value on as he could be a great rental with retention seeing as his actual $ amount is basically nothing, but given his recent playoffs I can see the hesitation. I think at this point the reason to trade Marner is just for a fresh start and redistribution of cap more than anything else.

Its possible I suppose. I mean if the main goal is to get cap space and futures for Marner. That's probably the best outcome for The Leafs. For a deal like that there will be no shortage of interested teams. Assuming of course that he would waive his NMC.

Still think Marner for Drew Doughty makes a certain amount of sense

Yea unless there is some new "way back" machine and make DD 27 again, I think that's a hard no for The Leafs.

Call me crazy... but the list of teams inquiring about Mitch Marner would be long... very long...

I think most teams realize that something needs to change in Toronto, and he probably can't be "THE GUY"... but if you're a strong team, with a strong identity, like Carolina, or even Boston, and have an opportunity to bring in a premier talent like Marner at age 26; you do not pass up on that opportunity because his confidence is a little shot.

The challenge of course, is that Marner has full control with his NMC... so will get to pick his destination -- somewhere that he's presumably interested in re-signing.

Teams that jump out to me as likely possibilities (which Marner would presumably be interested in).

Los Angeles Kings
Carolina Hurricanes
Dallas Stars
New York Islanders
Washingotn Capitals
St. Louis Blues

I would add Vegas, Utah and New Jersey to your list. He wouldn't go to Washington imo. They will be on a hard downturn for quite a while.....

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Josh Anderson , leafs need to add a sweetner.

I love leafs fans saying no to proposals in here , like what do you guys mean no? Keep the guy at 11 mill going forward if you don't like the returns, by all means please do

 

[Hunter368]

Josh Anderson , leafs need to add a sweetner.

I love leafs fans saying no to proposals in here , like what do you guys mean no? Keep the guy at 11 mill going forward if you don't like the returns, by all means please do

As a general rule fans should NEVER make trade threads when their teams loses badly in the playoffs, I mean all their going to get is crappy responses generally speaking. Leafs and every other team who loses 4-1 or 4-2 in the playoffs or failed to even make the playoffs will need to do an offseason reviewed and make changes to bring them closer to the playoff and cup goal.

I just roll my eyes when I see these types of threads this time of year. Some fans just can't resist making these threads this time of year.

 

[Sideline]

Marner is better in the regular season, but Jake Guentzel was on a much more affordable cap hit and is an elite playoff producer. I would be benchmarking the return for Marner there unless he's coming with a signed extension.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Josh Anderson , leafs need to add a sweetner.

I love leafs fans saying no to proposals in here , like what do you guys mean no? Keep the guy at 11 mill going forward if you don't like the returns, by all means please do

Leafs say no

 

[bossram]

Josh Anderson , leafs need to add a sweetner.

I love leafs fans saying no to proposals in here , like what do you guys mean no? Keep the guy at 11 mill going forward if you don't like the returns, by all means please do

Marner is still a 100 point guy that was a Selke nominee.

Anderson is barely an NHLer at this point.

Yeah, if that is only offer available, they're gonna keep him.

 

[Hunter368]

Marner is better in the regular season, but Jake Guentzel was on a much more affordable cap hit and is an elite playoff producer. I would be benchmarking the return for Marner there unless he's coming with a signed extension.

Hard part about trading Marner, stating already all his failings in the playoffs, cap hit, etc. Is his lack of term and how toxic his last contract deal went with him, his father/agent, etc with the Leafs. Who is going to sign up for that again, after trading pieces to get him with no assurances of him signing at a reasonable rate......plus he likely thinks he deserves a raise. He likely stays a Leafs until his current deal is done or he's traded with a new contract done. yikes

 

[bossram]

I can’t see any way Marner waives his NMC. The media whirlwind this offseason won’t bother him on his boat.

It's pretty much the opposite. Marner and his dad have always seemed very sensitive to media and the public chatter. His dad is probably seething right now.

In most cases, if a team approaches a player with a full NTC or NMC, one way or another, the player ends up gone. They just get to provide a short list of destinations. Marner and his dad have huge egos. If they Shanny/Treliving finally grow some balls and ask if he'd accept a trade, Marner isn't going to stick around to be the unwanted loser.

 

[Bulls9220]

Josh Anderson , leafs need to add a sweetner.

I love leafs fans saying no to proposals in here , like what do you guys mean no? Keep the guy at 11 mill going forward if you don't like the returns, by all means please do

just say you dont want to have an actual conversation about this

 

[Lt Dan]

Feels like almost no one wins here:

-Marner would reset Montreal's entire salary scale and I highly doubt anyone in the league thinks he's "the guy", even if he's an elite complementary player.

That would be true with Marner to any team and people need to see it

 

[BraveCanadian]

Call me crazy... but the list of teams inquiring about Mitch Marner would be long... very long...

I think most teams realize that something needs to change in Toronto, and he probably can't be "THE GUY"... but if you're a strong team, with a strong identity, like Carolina, or even Boston, and have an opportunity to bring in a premier talent like Marner at age 26; you do not pass up on that opportunity because his confidence is a little shot.

The challenge of course, is that Marner has full control with his NMC... so will get to pick his destination -- somewhere that he's presumably interested in re-signing.

Teams that jump out to me as likely possibilities (which Marner would presumably be interested in).

Los Angeles Kings
Carolina Hurricanes
Dallas Stars
New York Islanders
Washingotn Capitals
St. Louis Blues

Agreed - put him on a team that plays actual hockey and I still think he could be a big piece. His shortcomings are amplified by the team here and if he was surrounded by complementary players he'd be dynamite.

 

[cowboy82nd]

Any deal that involves Marner will 100% be a sign and trade. He will be getting an extension along with the trade

Didn't the owners and GM's learn anything from the Huberdeau deal?

 

[HuGo Sham]

Habs: Marner (retained) signs extension

Leafs: Seth Jones + Hawks 34th oa

Hawks: 5th oa

Everybody wins

Habs don't want Marner..figure out a deal so you can bring him to chicago.
we'll keep the 5th for a cost controlled asset..

Armia would be able to go to the hawks easily in this type of deal.

so? he was great for the habs down the stretch, their best PKer and on an expiring deal

 

[Mrfenn92]

Habs don't want Marner..figure out a deal so you can bring him to chicago.
we'll keep the 5th for a cost controlled asset..


so? he was great for the habs down the stretch, their best PKer and on an expiring deal

Responding to the guys post that’s all if he was looking to move on from armia’s cap it wouldn’t be a issue in a make believe deal.