Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[notDatsyuk]

I'm curious to see who the Vegas fans will blame when Mitch doesn't show up in the playoffs.

Maybe dekes will go and explain to them that it must be everyone else, because Mitch is the best player in the league.

 

[mogs]

You're the one bringing it up 4 years later, and you literally had the clip. Shouldn't have been that hard to get it right, and avoid posting the opposite of what he said. If you can't get it right, don't post quotes in the first place.

After a close playoff loss, he said he wasn't going to change his playoff preparation, which is a reasonable answer considering that wasn't the issue. That's very different from not trying to improve as a player over the summer, and even within that same answer, he specifically noted that he wanted to get "stronger" and "faster".

Unless I am mistaken, that clip is from after the Montreal series. And you call that a close loss rather than an embarrassing loss? That really shows how delusional you are about Marner and this team.

 

[Superstar]

I don’t think this goes to FA.
He gets traded. He will try to save some face in his home town.

I bet he's already bought a few clown suits for his NHL teams tour to get the best deal in FA.

 

[MCR74]

Unless I am mistaken, that clip is from after the Montreal series. And you call that a close loss rather than an embarrassing loss? That really shows how delusional you are about Marner and this team.

The Montreal series was a black mark. Everyone on the team should've been ashamed to no end. Obviously Mitch didn't get the memo.

 

[notbias]

When discussing forwards, then yes, scoring goals is the most valuable asset, although obviously not the sole one, which is why Matthews is one of the highest paid players.

Glad you finally got that figured out.

Now that we've established this, McDavid should not earn more than Draisaitl....

 

[notDatsyuk]

Now that we've established this, McDavid should not earn more than Draisaitl....

Do you deliberately keep missing the point, or is it just poor reading comprehension?

 

[notbias]

Do you deliberately keep missing the point, or is it just poor reading comprehension?

I keep using your analysis of goals... is it now individual awards too?

I can't keep up.

 

[MCR74]

Maybe dekes will go and explain to them that it must be everyone else, because Mitch is the best player in the league.

Mitch can probably do that himself.

 

[mogs]

I keep using your analysis of goals... is it now individual awards too?

I can't keep up.

What are you even talking about? Who brought up individual awards? And anyway, McDavid does not earn more than Draisaitl. Not sure what your point is.

 

[Stephen]

Now that we've established this, McDavid should not earn more than Draisaitl....

Fun fact. McDavid and Draisaitl both average 0.50 goals per game over their careers and McDavid’s single season high is quite a bit higher than Leon’s, 64 to 55. So even here, you’re wrong.

 

[Maple Leaf]

So why didn't he take a discount like Crosby
Because he is a clown

 

[notbias]

Fun fact. McDavid and Draisaitl both average 0.50 goals per game over their careers and McDavid’s single season high is quite a bit higher than Leon’s, 64 to 55. So even here, you’re wrong.

Draisaitl has outscored him significantly lately, but sure, let's use career.

Fun fact, Matthews is top in that category... so I am assuming no one should be paid more than him?

 

[HolyCrap]

To be fair.. Mitchy hits as much as Matty does. And almost double to triple as much as Big Willy does.. He's not exactly small.. He's kind of a big skinny guy. If he was Matty's 230 and 6'3... legendary dreams

Marner is a big skinny guy? He’s not big in any way. Maybe I misread this. lol.

 

[MCR74]

So why didn't he take a discount like Crosby
Because he is a clown

Apparently he might take a discount to sign with Vegas. That's what some trade board geniuses have said.

 

[Stephen]

Draisaitl has outscored him significantly lately, but sure, let's use career.

Fun fact, Matthews is top in that category... so I am assuming no one should be paid more than him?

Well Matthews scored the most goals in 2024 and was the highest paid in 2025, but I don’t think anyone knows what you’re screaming about anymore.

Let’s be clear. Marner doesn’t belong in a sentence with McDavid and Draisaitl except they all live in the Muskokas.

 

[notbias]

Well Matthews scored the most goals in 2024 and was the highest paid in 2025, but I don’t think anyone knows what you’re screaming about anymore.

Let’s be clear. Marner doesn’t belong in a sentence with McDavid and Draisaitl except they all live in the Muskokas.

I am so confused about career goals mattering... you just brought it up as very important, and now you are using specific years?

Also, cap % is what matters, not base cap hit, you should know better.

McDavid was at 15.7% cap hit, I think Matthews should be at around 16.5-17% because goals are so important.

That would put Matthews at $15 million, seems good to you, right?

I keep seeing how important goals are and how little assists matter, I am just trying to make sense of it all.

I'm sure that Matthews has never been critiqued on his lack of assists on this board....

I care a lot that he collect assists. Means he's also facilitating those around him to produce, which creates variability in the attack, which opens up space for... more goal scoring. Now obviously when you're the best option to score by a country mile on a line those goal totals will go up. But I think there's always room for improvement and seeing Matthews Top 5 in the Art Ross race would make me happier.

Why do you care about assists here?

 

[Stephen]

I am so confused about career goals mattering... you just brought it up as very important, and now you are using specific years?

Also, cap % is what matters, not base cap hit, you should know better.

McDavid was at 15.7% cap hit, I think Matthews should be at around 16.5-17% because goals are so important.

That would put Matthews at $15 million, seems good to you, right?

I keep seeing how important goals are and how little assists matter, I am just trying to make sense of it all.

I'm sure that Matthews has never been critiqued on his lack of assists on this board....



Why do you care about assists here?

Matthews needs more assists to be able to hang with the big boys in McDavid, Mackinnon and Draisaitl but it’s clear we pay because he’s a big time goal scorer. Marner is nothing in that conversation because his raw points production isn’t even that special and he score worth a lick.

But hey keep cheering for that Marner overpay wherever it happens to be. You’ve worked so hard on this case I hope there’s a real commission there for you.

 

[Shanwhatplan]

Nylander was overpaid on his UFA contract, but none of the contracts were "insane", and re-signing Matthews and Nylander were two of the best things Treliving has done. Not re-signing Marner is one of the worst things any GM could do. Losing one of the best players in the world in their prime for nothing is fireable on its own. Those 3 players consistently take responsibility, and aren't smug or entitled. You just don't want to acknowledge what actually happens, and expect them to do the same, and say all the ridiculous and untrue things about themselves and their performance that you say about them.

Every player in the league wants as much as they can get, but only Nylander has really taken it on our team.

It's not really about my personal opinion or standards. It's about understanding measures of relative player quality and impact, and a lot of research into how different metrics and characteristics historically correlate with contract valuation. You don't really have any consistent standard, and you keep getting it wrong and then blaming everybody else.

So he’s one of the best players in the world. Yet he, Matthews, and Nylander have NEVER been able to get this team past the 2nd round in 9 years, and to make matters worse, they went out in the 1st round 7 of those years. As far as any of them taking responsibility after every playoff disappointment, show me even one interview after a playoff series loss where any of them put the blame on themselves.

Are you serious? No, there are players who will leave some on the table in order for the team to either sign players or trade for them. This is a fact!

Yeah, I guess that’s what you have to do to defend a player who has consistently shit the bed the longer a series goes.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I keep using your analysis of goals... is it now individual awards too?

I can't keep up.

You keep pretending that my analysis is only goals, instead of actually responding to what I post.

You "can't keep up" with simple English?

 

[notDatsyuk]

So he’s one of the best players in the world. Yet he, Matthews, and Nylander have NEVER been able to get this team past the 2nd round in 9 years, and to make matters worse, they went out in the 1st round 7 of those years. As far as any of them taking responsibility after every playoff disappointment, show me even one interview after a playoff series loss where any of them put the blame on themselves.

Are you serious? No, there are players who will leave some on the table in order for the team to either sign players or trade for them. This is a fact!

Yeah, I guess that’s what you have to do to defend a player who has consistently shit the bed the longer a series goes.

Is dekes still pretending Mitch is one of the best players in the world?

Actually in their interviews after they were eliminated this year, Nylander said that he played badly in the last few games.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I am so confused

This part of your post is spot on!

The rest of it after those first 4 words on the other hand ... what a joke. Everything has been explained to you so many times and yet ... how do you never get tired of spewing the same old garbage?

about career goals mattering... you just brought it up as very important, and now you are using specific years?

Also, cap % is what matters, not base cap hit, you should know better.

McDavid was at 15.7% cap hit, I think Matthews should be at around 16.5-17% because goals are so important.

That would put Matthews at $15 million, seems good to you, right?

I keep seeing how important goals are and how little assists matter, I am just trying to make sense of it all.

I'm sure that Matthews has never been critiqued on his lack of assists on this board....

Why do you care about assists here?

 

[MCR74]

Is dekes still pretending Mitch is one of the best players in the world?

Actually in their interviews after they were eliminated this year, Nylander said that he played badly in the last few games.

Which is more than Marner has ever said.

 

[thewave]

So he’s one of the best players in the world. Yet he, Matthews, and Nylander have NEVER been able to get this team past the 2nd round in 9 years, and to make matters worse, they went out in the 1st round 7 of those years. As far as any of them taking responsibility after every playoff disappointment, show me even one interview after a playoff series loss where any of them put the blame on themselves.

Are you serious? No, there are players who will leave some on the table in order for the team to either sign players or trade for them. This is a fact!

Yeah, I guess that’s what you have to do to defend a player who has consistently shit the bed the longer a series goes.

He is trying to pour gasoline on to an open flame and pretend it's water.

 

[MCR74]

This part of your post is spot on!

LMAO!

 

[Shanwhatplan]

Is dekes still pretending Mitch is one of the best players in the world?

Actually in their interviews after they were eliminated this year, Nylander said that he played badly in the last few games.

Yeah, that’s why I asked him if his real name was Paul.
I guess I missed Nylander’s comments. Good for him, that’s what leaders do!