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Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

He signs in the Vegas desert if he wants a cup and likely takes a slight cut on the aav to do so (probably closer to Ranatanen). Or he'll sign in Anaheim if he chases the dollars on the aav and enjoys the anonymity and the SoCal weather. Don't think many other teams have a chance.

This stuff about offering the Leafs a meeting is just insulting lol
 
The thing is - I don't disagree with the suggestion that plenty of players have zero desire to play in Toronto (and that even includes a fair amount of former GTA kids). The NHL has a culture that shuns attention and stardom..most guys w just want to collect a huge paycheck and protect their anomininitiy. And.as a result hockey players are often mentally weaker than a lot of their pro-sport peers in other leagues when it comes to dealing with public pressure

BUT, I don't really see much evidence this is actually intensifying though. It's always been like this, and likely always will be. Plenty of big names UFAs snubbed the Leafs during the Burke era, hell even the Quinn years when the team was actually allowed to competitively spend. This Marner business isn't going deter anyone who’s not already disinterested in the market. If you want to sign for the Leafs,.you know what comes with it at this point
Marner is a pretty popular player league wide. Players will take notice.
 
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The thing is - I don't disagree with the suggestion that plenty of players have zero desire to play in Toronto (and that even includes a fair amount of former GTA kids). The NHL has a culture that shuns attention and stardom..most guys w just want to collect a huge paycheck and protect their anomininitiy. And.as a result hockey players are often mentally weaker than a lot of their pro-sport peers in other leagues when it comes to dealing with public pressure

BUT, I don't really see much evidence this is actually intensifying though. It's always been like this, and likely always will be. Plenty of big names UFAs snubbed the Leafs during the Burke era, hell even the Quinn years when the team was actually allowed to competitively spend. This Marner business isn't going deter anyone whose not already disinterested in the market. If you want to sign for the Leafs,.you know what comes with it at this point
Exactly. Quit trying to force players that obviously don't gel here. It'd a different environment and you need to keep that in mind when making decisions.
 
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The thing is, if he signs $14 million x 7, the team is already overpaying him the last 3 to 4 years of the contract because he's not going to live up to it. Teams are essentially buying the first several years of UFA where they see the player as being the most productive, and are writing off the latter years of the contract, hoping the player would still be somewhat productive, knowing full well the player will likely not live up to the contract then.
I’d be very surprised if he signed a 7 year deal. I could see 4 years just like Matthews deal.
 
I'm a Leafs fan but no one sane considers Toronto a great place to live. No none.
Yet it is the fastest growing city in North America

Key Takeaways:

  • Toronto’s census metropolitan area population surpassed 7 million in mid-2024.
  • The city’s population growth surged by 3.9% in a single year.
  • Population growth is outpacing Canadian and U.S. counterparts.
  • Continued public and private investment is driving strong economic activity.
  • Demand for housing continues to drive up property prices across much of Canada.

The city has quickly climbed the ranks as being one of the biggest, and fastest growing urban areas in North America. Boasting an array of multi-cultural attractions, and a dynamic and inclusive economy, Toronto is fast-tracking its reputation as one of the best places to live and work in North America.
 
Yet it is the fastest growing city in North America

Key Takeaways:

  • Toronto’s census metropolitan area population surpassed 7 million in mid-2024.
  • The city’s population growth surged by 3.9% in a single year.
  • Population growth is outpacing Canadian and U.S. counterparts.
  • Continued public and private investment is driving strong economic activity.
  • Demand for housing continues to drive up property prices across much of Canada.

The city has quickly climbed the ranks as being one of the biggest, and fastest growing urban areas in North America. Boasting an array of multi-cultural attractions, and a dynamic and inclusive economy, Toronto is fast-tracking its reputation as one of the best places to live and work in North America.
Man why people hating on Booster Juice and Burrito Boyz. Ketchup chips and All Dressed are so much better.
 
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The thing is - I don't disagree with the suggestion that plenty of players have zero desire to play in Toronto (and that even includes a fair amount of former GTA kids). The NHL has a culture that shuns attention and stardom..most guys w just want to collect a huge paycheck and protect their anomininitiy. And.as a result hockey players are often mentally weaker than a lot of their pro-sport peers in other leagues when it comes to dealing with public pressure

BUT, I don't really see much evidence this is actually intensifying though. It's always been like this, and likely always will be. Plenty of big names UFAs snubbed the Leafs during the Burke era, hell even the Quinn years when the team was actually allowed to competitively spend. This Marner business isn't going deter anyone whose not already disinterested in the market. If you want to sign for the Leafs,.you know what comes with it at this point

Yep. Especially when this situation involves Mitch, who has never been able to handle the Toronto pressure well. Going back to his little rooftop address to the fans when he signed this expiring deal. He’s a guy who is aware of the platform, has put his name beside the franchise greats. But he can’t handle the pressure.

And all the flak Toronto is catching, how about we suspend operations for a couple of years and see what kind of impact the loss of this stage would mean for everyone’s bank account across the league. Absolutely ridiculous that people like Maurice and Tkachuk are allowed to slander a market like that.
 
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It's the place where Gods can be made, if earned. It's not a place where Gods are self-declared, without that Cup. It's a place where you are under a microscope, that not all can handle, but the glory if they win, is unmatched.
If Marner was this guy, he'd be adored.

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Instead, he's this guy.

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Do you ever tire of writing the exact same shit over and over
I know you’re emotional right now, but don’t worry, you’ll survive. In a few weeks, once the dust settles, you can follow Marner to his new team and keep professing your irrational love for him over there.

It’s not goodbye, it’s just the start of a new chapter.

We’ll miss you. Stop by and say hello sometime.
 
This would be a high IQ move on his part. He doesn't like contact and absolutely detests going to the high traffic areas...he's not at risk of getting injured.
I also don’t usually listen to Dreger, but I believe he does get info on Marner and if he throws it out there like Marner would do some team a favour by taking less (14 mil/what a guy) on a short term deal, I do tend to think there is something to that.
 
Yep, he always talked about his desire to stay, until Treliving screwed it up. Now you're making up baseless accusations that he was lying all along.

Not signing during the season doesn't imply anything you've claimed. Marner has avoided in-season signing distractions his whole career. There's also no evidence that he would only sign an overpayment. Though ironically, "didn't get the overpayment they liked last off season so they won't negotiate to try and scare the team into giving them what they want" is exactly what Nylander was reported to have done.

It's also why it is a distraction for the player, and players are allowed to not want to deal with that while they are focused on the current season.

Not signing during the season doesn't say anything about his desire to stay. There is plenty of other time to get a deal done, and GMs that are actually competent at their job would have respected and worked around that.

Team got one of the best players in the world on a surplus value contract, helping the Leafs be one of the best teams in the league throughout that contract.

He never held the team hostage, and he was never "told to go f*** himself". You have quite the imagination.

Marner has never been given a blank cheque. Would have helped to have the last guy around to get a fair deal done again, instead of Treliving sabotaging the team.

Stop blaming Marner for management's incompetence. Time for Treliving to become a big boy and take responsibility for his failures.
Words mean nothing when your actions don't say the same thing. He says what he has to get the media to stop asking him about it. He never wanted to stay and played the team acting like he did. Did the same thing Tavares did to the Islanders.

In season signing is a distraction now to the player? When it's his agent that does all that and he just has to give 20 minutes of his time to go into the office and sign the contract. Nylander held out half a season and signed for 400K more than what we reportedly wanted to sign him for. Now that's a bad GM right there. He was crucified here because he held out that long and guess who is the only one who outplayed their contract by a lot and then also signed for 8 years on his next contract.

Again, if it's a distraction to reply to a text once in a while from an agent during the season then that's just sad and pathetic. I think getting a deal over with would get rid of any distraction, especially if like you said he wants to really stay here and only here.

A player that wants to really stay somewhere gets a deal done whenever. 2 reason they don't. 1 is they don't actually want to be there and 2 is they only care about maxing out every penny they can get. Gm gave him offers that were easy to accept and get rid of those distractions and gave him an out in terms of a trade. Keep telling yourself he wanted to be here because complaining about distractions while being the one creating those distractions is just a dumb excuse for him.

A surplus? Guy finished top 10 in scoring if you go by PPG 3 of the 6 years. 8th, 8th and just recently 7th. Paid this guy like he was a consistent top 5 scorer in the league and last season was the closest he got to being that and now he wants to be paid as much as Draisatl who was a consistent top 3 scorer during that time. Enough is enough this delusion needs to stop.

That's not an imagination, that's just common sense.

Yeah it's unfortunate that guy still isn't around who signed a 80 point player to 11 million and then 2 players off their ELCs to 11+ million that weren't even 8 years. Guy put on a masterclass while he was here with their contracts.

Marners a big boy now, just like you. You can stop trying to blame the current GM because your favourite GM and player are both gonna be gone soon and can't rip the team off anymore. I hope they are giving you a raise this summer because you're working overtime lately.
 
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I also don’t usually listen to Dreger, but I believe he does get info on Marner and if he throws it out there like Marner would do some team a favour by taking less (14 mil/what a guy) on a short term deal, I do tend to think there is something to that.
It makes little sense. How does a short term deal help a team? Do they mean the team only has to keep him a few years then they can pay him more or let him move on again?
 
More importantly, he earned his way back to the top line and set up the gold medal winner. The first six are the same as the first six at the four nations with the exception is that the leading goal scorer in the finals, Marchand was as you say "gut punched" from the six in favour of Reinhart.
Yea in this case Marner again was passed over in favor of 8.6 million dollar Reinhart.

Just a few years ago Marner fans said he was better than Kucherov, Rantanen, Eichel, Tkatchuk.

In less than a year, Team Canada has picked Point, Marchand and Sam Reinhart over him.

Need any more evidence that Marner has been incredibly overrated? Clearly he is not the superstar some for years believed he was and apparently still do.

Its gets even more disgusting if we compare his career % earnings to those guys.
 
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