Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[Mess]

On Sunday's '32 Thoughts', Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman revealed that it is clear that Marner's ego, took a hit when he was asked to waive his no-trade clause, and his inability to deal with the pressure of Toronto has ended his tenure with the Maple Leafs and tarnished what could have been a spectacular legacy.

"The Maple Leafs have tried to talk to Marner. Marner's camp has not engaged with them."

An excellent regular season player for the Leafs, his playoff performances left much to be desired, and at this point, Leafs fans are looking forward to saying goodbye to the former London Knights star.

"Marner may not be looking to sign a 7-year deal in free agency. He might look at a 4-year deal and then go for another one, kind of how Matthews has done it."

He wants to sign another substantial deal again in a few years to maximize his career earnings.

Let's be honest, Leafs Nation would rather not be put through this exhausting cycle of 'will he stay or will he go' again in three or four years, so with that, we bid you farewell Mitch.

 

[Menzinger]

On Sunday's '32 Thoughts', Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman revealed that it is clear that Marner's ego, took a hit when he was asked to waive his no-trade clause, and his inability to deal with the pressure of Toronto has ended his tenure with the Maple Leafs and tarnished what could have been a spectacular legacy.

"The Maple Leafs have tried to talk to Marner. Marner's camp has not engaged with them."

An excellent regular season player for the Leafs, his playoff performances left much to be desired, and at this point, Leafs fans are looking forward to saying goodbye to the former London Knights star.

"Marner may not be looking to sign a 7-year deal in free agency. He might look at a 4-year deal and then go for another one, kind of how Matthews has done it."

Let's be honest, Leafs Nation would rather not be put through this exhausting cycle of 'will he stay or will he go' again in three or four years, so with that, we bid you farewell Mitch.

Nothing stopped him from asking for a trade at any point in the last year. What an awful way to end a tenure of something that should have been such a a celebrated story. Instead things end on a highly resentful note

 

[Caesium]

On Sunday's '32 Thoughts', Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman revealed that it is clear that Marner's ego, took a hit when he was asked to waive his no-trade clause, and his inability to deal with the pressure of Toronto has ended his tenure with the Maple Leafs and tarnished what could have been a spectacular legacy.

"The Maple Leafs have tried to talk to Marner. Marner's camp has not engaged with them."

An excellent regular season player for the Leafs, his playoff performances left much to be desired, and at this point, Leafs fans are looking forward to saying goodbye to the former London Knights star.

"Marner may not be looking to sign a 7-year deal in free agency. He might look at a 4-year deal and then go for another one, kind of how Matthews has done it."

Let's be honest, Leafs Nation would rather not be put through this exhausting cycle of 'will he stay or will he go' again in three or four years, so with that, we bid you farewell Mitch.

Weird, I didn't hear Friedman talk about Marner's ego at all. You wouldn't happen to be making shit up again would you?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Weird, I didn't hear Friedman talk about Marner's ego at all. You wouldn't happen to be making shit up again would you?

You have to listen between the lines.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Marner doesn’t have social media and doesn’t tune in to the noise from what he says. How can online discussion be a problem?

You can't fathom how spreading hate online could be a problem? Yikes. My post was about people taking responsibility for their actions, but for the record, whether he uses social media or not, friends and family would still have it, and he still interacts with media and people in the world throughout his daily life. Public sentiment still affects him and his job. And he still has to deal with death threats, which is the kind of thing that online echo chambers of hate lead to.

If it makes you happy Dekes, they can fire Treliving too. Just like every other coach and executive in Toronto that bet their career on Mitch. What’s one more casualty?

Firing Treliving would be the correct decision to prevent further damage, but enough damage is already done. There's nothing to be happy about. But hey, you managed to find one more thing to arbitrarily try and blame Marner for.

 

[Caesium]

You have to listen between the lines.

Sorry, I don't hear voices that aren't there.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Sorry, I don't hear voices that aren't there.

Well, then you will never understand Marner's true feelings and motivations.

 

[Caesium]

Well, then you will never understand Marner's true feelings and motivations.

I will agree, most of the opinions on these boards seem schizophrenic.

 

[Leaffan1991]

How unlucky of this team to draft all this amazing talent and they end up being what we have now... little entitled bitches

 

[Mess]

Nothing stopped him from asking for a trade at any point in the last year. What an awful way to end a tenure of something that should have been such a a celebrated story. Instead things end on a highly resentful note

Leaf Nation fans will look back in time and see all those regular season points and all those failed and struggling playoff results and it will not be a memorable time.

It kind of reminds me of the Rick Vaive Era in Toronto in the 1980's .. Vaive scored 50+ goals in 3 straight seasons from 1981 thru 1984 and in his 8 years in Toronto the Maple Leafs won only 2 measly playoff series.

The Marner 9 seasons 2016-2025 and the Vaive's 8 years 1979 - 1987 left the same bad taste in fans mouth for those wasted decades of Leafs history where the Stanley Cup remained so far out of reach.

Neither former Leaf player will leave behind any memorable playoff highlight moments that fans talk about for generations, because there simply weren't any.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I will agree, most of the opinions on these boards seem schizophrenic.

Yes, it is only because Marner won't tell us his feelings,motivations,or his negotiating stance. If he does and it doesn't align with preconceived notions, he is lying or it is propaganda. Perhaps on Marner's payroll, his dad or working for Rocket Security. Or you are a Marner fan and not a fan of the Maple Leafs.

 

[CelticDruid]

L

Well, then you will never understand Marner's true feelings and motivations.

I'll make it easy for you.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Leaf Fans]

L

I'll make it easy for you.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That doesn't make things easy. It is the same made up nonsense that is on the board already. Though I think money is one of his motivations.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Leaf Nation fans will look back in time and see all those regular season points and all those failed and struggling playoff results and it will not be a memorable time.

It kind of reminds me of the Rick Vaive Era in Toronto in the 1980's .. Vaive scored 50+ goals in 3 straight seasons from 1981 thru 1984 and in his 8 years in Toronto the Maple Leafs won only 2 measly playoff series.

The Marner 9 seasons 2016-2025 and the Vaive's 8 years 1979 - 1987 left the same bad taste in fans mouth for those wasted decades of Leafs history where the Stanley Cup remained so far out of reach.

Neither former Leaf player will leave behind any memorable playoff highlight moments that fans talk about for generations, because there simply weren't any.

I will remember it just fine. I would have liked better results of course, but I enjoyed every game and plan to do so in the future. Besides, I don't know why you called me out; it is not all about me.

 

[Shanwhatplan]

You clearly weren't though. Your description of Nylander's contract (long term, overpaid) only fits his current one, and you were making claims about Matthews' contract being relevant to Marner's ask "now", and that argument doesn't even work unless you're talking about his current one. Their last contracts were also fine and have nothing to do with anything.

This may surprise you, but Presidents don't sign player contracts. GMs do.

He did though.

Funny? No.
Sad? Yes.
Predictable? Absolutely. The Leafs have a long history of making poor decisions.

Maybe you should apply there, Dekes, and Marner could be the highest paid player not only on the Leafs, but in the NHL. There’s nothing like being able to play shinny hockey, make all those fancy no-look passes, and get lots of points, and then become invisible when the going gets tough. Tell me, how many shots on goal did Marner get in the last 3 games? Lol

 

[Caesium]

Yes, it is only because Marner won't tell us his feelings,motivations,or his negotiating stance. If he does and it doesn't align with preconceived notions, he is lying or it is propaganda. Perhaps on Marner's payroll, his dad or working for Rocket Security. Or you are a Marner fan and not a fan of the Maple Leafs.

I'm not a fan of this iteration of the Leafs. I don't like a single player left on the team.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I'm not a fan of this iteration of the Leafs. I don't like a single player left on the team.

We differ there. I am one and I will continue to be one.

 

[Mess]

Weird, I didn't hear Friedman talk about Marner's ego at all. You wouldn't happen to be making shit up again would you?

Mitch Marner Shoots Down Leafs' Efforts to Make Amends and Negotiate a New Deal

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman revealed on Sunday morning that the Maple Leafs have attempted to hold conversations on a new deal for Mitch Marner but to no avail.

www.mapleleafsdaily.com

 

[Dekes For Days]

It's never been an option for Treliving.

Of course it was. That's where things were headed until Treliving screwed it up.

Both Lou and Dubas had the chance to sign him to a reasonable contract.

And both did, though Lou had the advantage of a CBA-limited contract, and he still managed to strain the relationship for no reason.

It's completely true.

It's not true, but that won't stop you from making stuff up.

Regardless, there's a justifiable reason that people don't like the guy, teammates included.

Teammates love Marner. There's never been a justifiable reason for the toxicity and hate that Marner gets from certain media and fans.

 

[Craig Button]

Mitch was never treated like the way Mats was on the way out.

Have you not been alive for the last 2 years?

 

[notbias]

On Sunday's '32 Thoughts', Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman revealed that it is clear that Marner's ego, took a hit when he was asked to waive his no-trade clause, and his inability to deal with the pressure of Toronto has ended his tenure with the Maple Leafs and tarnished what could have been a spectacular legacy.

"The Maple Leafs have tried to talk to Marner. Marner's camp has not engaged with them."

An excellent regular season player for the Leafs, his playoff performances left much to be desired, and at this point, Leafs fans are looking forward to saying goodbye to the former London Knights star.

"Marner may not be looking to sign a 7-year deal in free agency. He might look at a 4-year deal and then go for another one, kind of how Matthews has done it."

He wants to sign another substantial deal again in a few years to maximize his career earnings.

Let's be honest, Leafs Nation would rather not be put through this exhausting cycle of 'will he stay or will he go' again in three or four years, so with that, we bid you farewell Mitch.

For the last month, you've said that the Leafs didn't want Marner.

There are far easier ways to say you were lying and are wrong than posting 6 paragraphs.

 

[Trapper]

On Sunday's '32 Thoughts', Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman revealed that it is clear that Marner's ego, took a hit when he was asked to waive his no-trade clause, and his inability to deal with the pressure of Toronto has ended his tenure with the Maple Leafs and tarnished what could have been a spectacular legacy.

"The Maple Leafs have tried to talk to Marner. Marner's camp has not engaged with them."

An excellent regular season player for the Leafs, his playoff performances left much to be desired, and at this point, Leafs fans are looking forward to saying goodbye to the former London Knights star.

"Marner may not be looking to sign a 7-year deal in free agency. He might look at a 4-year deal and then go for another one, kind of how Matthews has done it."

He wants to sign another substantial deal again in a few years to maximize his career earnings.

Let's be honest, Leafs Nation would rather not be put through this exhausting cycle of 'will he stay or will he go' again in three or four years, so with that, we bid you farewell Mitch.

Let some other team play Marner’s contract hostage negotiations game in 4 years.
We’ve already got 1 taker in Matthews to deal with again in 3. Hopefully he’s next.

 

[Dekes For Days]

marner was only interested in the most money.

Nope.

He had plenty of opportunity to re-sign, but it never was enough.

Team had plenty of opportunity to re-sign him, but they screwed it up.

Everyone should be happy.

Nobody should be happy. A worse Leaf team certainly doesn't make me happy.

It isn't like he was the difference between a Cup and no Cup.

Losing him hurts any future cup potential.

 

[Mess]

How unlucky of this team to draft all this amazing talent and they end up being what we have now... little entitled bitches

Things would have been different if the Leafs never replaced Lou Lam with Clueless Dubas.

Lou ran a tight ship, be it facial hair or music in the dressing room of earning your $$ even if it was just rookie bonuses in your ELC. Lou Lam is a giant in the NHL GM world and no player agent would have played him like Kyle got played.

If you hand out big fat contracts $$$ to players that never earned it, it creates complacency and self entitlement to the point Marner claimed after the previous playoffs the players are viewed "as Gods in Toronto". The phrase "as Gods in Toronto" refers to a comment made by Mitch Marner, a player for the Toronto Maple Leafs, where he described how players are perceived in the city, suggesting they are treated with immense reverence and idolized like deities.

In Toronto this is not the first lost decade and won't be the last .. It's often been referred to in the past as "Blue and White disease". "Blue and White disease" is a term used to describe a phenomenon within the Toronto Maple Leafs organization, particularly during the tenure of Brian Burke as general manager. It refers to a situation where players prioritize the attention and status associated with playing for the Maple Leafs, rather than focusing solely on winning. This can manifest as a sense of entitlement, inflated egos, or a disconnect between the public perception and the team's actual performance.

Marner himself believes he is entitled now to become the highest paid player in the game. If that doesn't show the pure arrogance, and inflated ego and sense of entitlement, without the stats and production and playoff results to deserve it.

 

[Stephen]

Imagine Alex Barkov has a bad game 6 because an HF Board poster wrote something on a thread. If only the Leafs could play in an empty building then there wouldn't be any noise....oh wait...we did that during covid. Can anyone remind me if Marner was good in that series?

Marner managed to flip a puck into the empty stands in Montreal in what amounted to a closed practice. And still managed to have a massive emotional meltdown in the penalty box. With no fans.