Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[Metroid]

you guys still talkin about this guy

Gotta say man, your posts are low key amazing. Right place at the wrong time with the one line zingers... Props.

 

[Gallagbi]

The compromise is he needs to leave his hometown to get every last penny, but I'm just hoping after July 1, this is not our problem.

Isn't that the gamble? He says he's worth it, the team doesn't? So now he'll get it elsewhere and try to prove he wasn't the (maybe a) problem

On the maturity piece, I think this guy could have had a much happier time in Toronto not comparing himself to Matthews on every privilege. It's hard to imagine a guy like Draisaitl huffing and puffing like Mitch every time Connor McDavid was elevated a little higher.

No question Mitch has ruined his image and legacy here. But if he goes elsewhere and is a top player on a cup winner I'll say he's the one who "wins" in the end.

 

[58 Years No Cup]

Isn't that the gamble? He says he's worth it, the team doesn't? So now he'll get it elsewhere and try to prove he wasn't the (maybe a) problem


No question Mitch has ruined his image and legacy here. But if he goes elsewhere and is a top player on a cup winner I'll say he's the one who "wins" in the end.

And I want a pony!

 

[BallardEra]

 

[thewave]

Unsubscribing from TSN forever. The most stupid thing I have read, didn't press play. Wow

 

[Stephen]

Isn't that the gamble? He says he's worth it, the team doesn't? So now he'll get it elsewhere and try to prove he wasn't the (maybe a) problem

No question Mitch has ruined his image and legacy here. But if he goes elsewhere and is a top player on a cup winner I'll say he's the one who "wins" in the end.

It's a complicated, messy legacy.

I don't think the Toronto Maple Leafs ever treated him poorly despite all the well reported nitpicks. If he needs to stick it to someone it's really the legacy he's built for himself here because a lot of this era has been built on his own come up story. If he goes on to win and make all the money elsewhere, good for him but end of the day he's only running away from himself.

 

[CelticDruid]

Nothing, his father hasn't been involved in years.

Ok, Paul.

 

[Gallagbi]

It's a complicated, messy legacy.

I don't think the Toronto Maple Leafs ever treated him poorly despite all the well reported nitpicks. If he needs to stick it to someone it's really the legacy he's built for himself here because a lot of this era has been built on his own come up story. If he goes on to win and make all the money elsewhere, good for him but end of the day he's only running away from himself.

Kinda depends what you consider the "Toronto Maple Leafs", because that Babs stuff was shady. The schedule B stuff was poorly handled.

But none of that justifies or excuses his own actions and how the moments always looked too big for him here

 

[Stephen]

Kinda depends what you consider the "Toronto Maple Leafs", because that Babe stuff was shady. The schedule B stuff was poorly handled.

But none of that justifies or excuses his own actions and how the moments always looked too big for him here

Yeah agreed on the last part.

As misguided as it may have been, Shanahan and Dubas' belief in the core in the face of so much adversity was pretty unique on the sporting landscape. It's too bad the Core 4 guys never seemed to appreciate that.

 

[Gallagbi]

Yeah agreed on the last part.

As misguided as it may have been, Shanahan and Dubas' belief in the core in the face of so much adversity was pretty unique on the sporting landscape. It's too bad the Core 4 guys never seemed to appreciate that.

The whole thing is pretty unique. It's not like other teams were moving off young core assets in their prime by choice, but most of the team's with talent like ours either crashed at some point causing frustration or broke through buying time. We've been uniquely underachieving in playoffs without missing the playoffs or having a complete fall off

 

[Mess]

It's a complicated, messy legacy.

I don't think the Toronto Maple Leafs ever treated him poorly despite all the well reported nitpicks. If he needs to stick it to someone it's really the legacy he's built for himself here because a lot of this era has been built on his own come up story. If he goes on to win and make all the money elsewhere, good for him but end of the day he's only running away from himself.

Marner's mouth wrote cheques that butt could never cash.

 

[Craig Button]

You would think drinking a lot of beers would make Marner’s game more fun to watch… but here we are.

That’s a you problem

 

[Trapper]

Unsubscribing from TSN forever. The most stupid thing I have read, didn't press play. Wow

This is why nobody takes the Leafs seriously.

 

[Leaf Fans]

And I want a pony!

Just go and buy one.

 

[Racer88]

Nylander said he played badly the last few games. Matthews and Marner blamed others. I don't recall what JT said.

What ever JT said I’m sure he mumbled it. Lol

 

[Stephen]

The whole thing is pretty unique. It's not like other teams were moving off young core assets in their prime by choice, but most of the team's with talent like ours either crashed at some point causing frustration or broke through buying time. We've been uniquely underachieving in playoffs without missing the playoffs or having a complete fall off

Yeah, one benefit to having a crash out year during the "innocent climb" phase is it gives a team the chance to pick high in the draft and an opportunity to scoop up a missing player type, while maybe moving off a core piece that doesn't fit or is a surplus strength. We just kinda missed every opportunity to add to the group after the JT contract.

 

[Kiwi]

I'm getting pretty sick of the schedule B bonuses and Babcock stuff

You can say a lot of stuff about this organization but they haven't been shy about throwing money at almost everything for the last decade

We've given all the big 3 pretty much everything they have wanted contractually since they left there ECL
They make more money than there comparables
Full NMC
Full Bonus structure

None of those players has a leg to stand on if they have a problem with how they have been treated, none of them

If Marner goes, fair enough that's his right and decision but I think the teams been more than fair to him in his time here

 

[Stephen]

I'm getting pretty sick of the schedule B bonuses and Babcock stuff

You can say a lot of stuff about this organization but they haven't been shy about throwing money at almost everything for the last decade

We've given all the big 3 pretty much everything they have wanted contractually since they left there ECL
They make more money than there comparables
Full NMC
Full Bonus structure

None of those players has a leg to stand on if they have a problem with how they have been treated, none of them

If Marner goes, fair enough that's his right and decision but I think the teams been more than fair to him in his time here

Yeah as an organization they've stood by him through everything publicly and team playoff failures have cost both Dubas and Shanahan their jobs from a personal loyalty POV.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Dealing with them feels like the equivalent of reminding your wife she has to pick up the kids today and getting a detailed notarized list of everything you have potentially done wrong since 1993 both in real life and dreams she’s had.

Are you married to my ex?

 

[notDatsyuk]

It would be nice for just one time for them to admit they had something to do with not advancing. I mean personal responsibility on the matter. "I didn't get the job done"...is it that hard to say? Instead it's "Passengers" and we will "Learn from this"...My God...how tone deaf are they?

How about one of them saying he played badly the last few games?

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Someone asked Friedman on his podcast Monday "Could Marner block a trade of his UFA rights?" And Friedman answered "If he wanted to, he could 100% block a trade of his rights."

Theres your proof bucko

Do you have a link Ritchie Cunningham? I'm sorry if "JKG33 says he heard a hockey pundit say it" isn't quite good enough to convince me. And even if you did, who made Freidman the authority on this topic? Again, I provided my receipts. Step up with something tangible.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Kessel won 2 cups, bozak, Kadri won cups. None were the best or 2nd best player on their team

And if a team he's on wins the Cup, Mitch won't be either.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

No you’re not.

You are paying for your seat to watch a hockey game

So the players are paid with money that self-produces out of the ether? Or could it possibly be, and hear me out here, players' salaries come entirely from money from the fans?

 

[JKG33]

Do you have a link Ritchie Cunningham? I'm sorry if "JKG33 says he heard a hockey pundit say it" isn't quite good enough to convince me. And even if you did, who made Freidman the authority on this topic? Again, I provided my receipts. Step up with something tangible.

32 thoughts monday June 2nd

But you shouldn't need that anyway, if i say something its usually right

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

32 thoughts monday June 2nd

But you shouldn't need that anyway, if i say something its usually right

Well, I'm convinced. Must be right if you're usually right.