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Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity



Seems like there was more interest in a potential Marner trade from the front office than just what happened last tdl

Ridiculous! We've been told that Tre's only priority this year was to sign Marner, who loves it here and refuses to go anywhere else, and the only reason he wasn't signed is ... well ... um ... reasons. :sarcasm:
 
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Lol... God on skates wasn't even worth Theodore to a real contender.

Theodore is a good, not great, hockey player. He's more comparable to Rielly than Hedman or Makar. He's not even the best defenseman on their team.

Marner for Theodore screams of Hall-Larsson 2.0.

But at least the Leafs would have gotten something back. Theodore is a lot better than the nothing they're getting now. Another master class in asset management Toronto Maple Leafs style.

The cap space is valuable assuming they spend it wisely on adequate replacements for the anointed one.

For some reason I'm skeptical they'll pull this off. They've botched virtually everything they've tried since drafting Matthews. There's always a first time for everything and I suppose this could be it.

I don't expect anything but continued buffoonery from a team that couldn't even get a 4D for the glorious revered one though.

I'm not sure why you're blaming the Leafs for that deal not working. If Vegas didn't think Marner was worth "even a 4D", should we have offered to take less? Maybe a 4th round pick?
 
Marner is obsessed with himself... look at this door knob.. skating around after warmups in front of the crowd all by himself. Good on Marchand for not giving in to the drama queen.



Of course, Marner had to do the same thing and try to outwait Sidney Crosby to be the last one off the ice. But Crosby, being the stand-up guy he is, just let the little kid have his way. Can you imagine… actually thinking you deserve to go last over Sidney f&$*ing Crosby?

And notice how Marchand stopped by the door, turned to face Marner, and said a few words while Marner immaturely just kept skating.

Similarly, in the dressing room, Marner admitted he just sat there, waiting to see what would happen until Crosby finally came over and told him he’d let him go last.

… just a perfect reflection of who Marchand and Crosby are as leaders and more proof of why Marner comes across as a cowardly non-leader.

This is probably exactly how his brain operates during contract negotiations too…

That is quite a spin on the superstition.
 
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Goalie hugs and mascots hugs are superstitions?

The mitch marner show:

Maybe, it just might be a ritual. Though in the tweet you posted earlier was about dueling superstitions ons and you spun from there. This is a bit of an attempt to throw out a red herring, but it didn't work.
 
I can really see Vegas signing MM as it fits both of them.

Vegas gets a playmaker for Eichel. MM plays on a team where he is in the Beta or even Charlie role despite his contract amount.

Win win for both sides

I agree Marner is most likely going to Vegas if he goes (logically I think he ends up staying. Just a weird vibe)

But Eichel is mostly a playmaker. And he also is the beta here. He seems to hate being Robin
 
Ridiculous! We've been told that Tre's only priority this year was to sign Marner, who loves it here and refuses to go anywhere else, and the only reason he wasn't signed is ... well ... um ... reasons. :sarcasm:

The reporter you are quoting also said Treliving's top priority was re-signing Marner.

So I guess it went re-signing Marner > trading him so he didn't walk > letting him walk

Can you quote one person who said his only priority was re-signing Marner?
 
Its wild how marner gets far far more hate than matthews when

A) he wasn't the highest paid player this past season unlike matthews (marner was 12th),

B) marner finished 5th in points while matthews wasn't even close to the top 10,

C) marner has finished with more points than matthews 5 of the 9 seasons they've played together and

D) they are both equally bad in the playoffs

Matthews needs to go before marner.
 
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The reporter you are quoting also said Treliving's top priority was re-signing Marner.

So I guess it went re-signing Marner > trading him so he didn't walk > letting him walk

Can you quote one person who said his only priority was re-signing Marner?
I wasn't quoting anyone. Just having a little fun at your frequently claiming someone had reported that.
 
Its wild how marner gets far far more hate than matthews when

A) he wasn't the highest paid player this past season unlike matthews (marner was 12th),

B) marner finished 5th in points while matthews wasn't even close to the top 10,

C) marner has finished with more points than matthews 5 of the 9 seasons they've played together and

D) they are both equally bad in the playoffs

Matthews needs to go before marner.
Marner drew much of this hate to him

He was the darling until they made the spectacle out of his negotiations and issued that incredibly awkward "I want to be here" post.

Matthews lowlights aren't as dramatic either. There's no crying in the box video of him or a turnover causing the GWG (essentially) like the MTL Series. There's no blown coverage on an OT winner after a bad turnover in a series clinching game like we saw vs. TBL. There's no controller disconnect video on the series clincher Pasta scored.

I want Matthews to get to a higher playoff level, like we saw in the TBL series, but he hasn't hurt us like Mitch has and he hasn't made a spectacle about all of it either.
 
Its wild how marner gets far far more hate than matthews when

A) he wasn't the highest paid player this past season unlike matthews (marner was 12th),

B) marner finished 5th in points while matthews wasn't even close to the top 10,

C) marner has finished with more points than matthews 5 of the 9 seasons they've played together and

D) they are both equally bad in the playoffs

Matthews needs to go before marner.
It's odd how there being something like 1.6 assists per goal means that there are more assists handed out than goals.

Matthews was, at least apparently, injured all season, which might have affected his production.

Matthews is signed with an NMC - Marner is not.
 
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it's poor asset management.

Asset management 101 - you don't lose a 28 yr old 100 pt player for nothing aside from cap space.

The situation the leafs find themselves in, is the disaster - we don't have options.

Depends on how you define "poor asset management" and that it also includes the alternative option in that decision. .

In a Salary Cap World the BIGGEST mistake a team can make is overpaying a player for their contributions or as I call it "Bang for your Cap Buck $" when comparing it to the productivity and salary of other players to determine return on investment. ,

While letting a good player walk for nothing does certainly qualify here, but so does overpaying that same player like say Leafs paying Marner $14+ mil and making him one of the highest paid in the entire game.

Pick your poison as to which one is WORST in terms of asset management where Cap Hit % and Cap Space usage are also factored into the decision to walk away as the Better outcome?
 
Agreed, its hard for any NHL team to walk away from a 100 point player for nothing, and claiming its in the best interest of the team.

However in Toronto's case they have a valid argument because its gets weighed against player greed and contract demands that destroys any reasonable player comparable contracts, suggesting walking away the SMART choice,

When your contract demands place you ahead the TOP 5 Playoff goal and point scorers in the NHL past 5 years in McDavid, Draisaitl, Rantanen, Kucherov and MacKinnon.
The Oilers would be in the same place as the Leafs with just the two big dollar stars but their top guys keep rolling in the post season. Taking the concept of player greed out, the Leafs have just not understood the economics of a cap world. I expect Colorado might want a do over on Ranta but they let him go at the risk of ending up with three mega salaries to screw with their cap disposition.

The Leafs have been paying assets for salary retention to support their failure to adjust to the excess money on three and this year four players. What if they had five $11M dollar players? The rest of the lineup would need to be Zamboni drivers to avoid letting go of a big regular season producer so should they do it?

I happen to think they might have pulled something off this year with a healthy Matthews and no head shots to Stolarz and Tavares but next year JT, OEL, Tanev and MaxPac are all deeper into their 30s so this talent is about to age out fast. Time to just let go of Kyle's dream.
 

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