Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[thewave]

So Willy was able to put up 15 points in 9 games with two prunes but then couldn't do anything in the final 4 games? Sound logic as usual.

Maurice changed tactics and the matchup. Willy couldn't handle it and seemed to be always jammed up for every time he tried to carry the puck in. The old timers we moving 0 km/h by the time Willy found a route

Go look at replays. The stalled the line expertly and Berube just kept it as is.

 

[Action Jackson]

Maurice changed tactics and the matchup. Willy couldn't handle it and seemed to be always jammed up for every time he tried to carry the puck in. The old timers we moving 0 km/h by the time Willy found a route

Go look at replays. The stalled the line expertly and Berube just kept it as is.

Berube was way too married to M&M

Nylander is our most skill forward and should play with a C who can keep up - Matthews

On any other team, Nylander is on the first line. Thank god this experiment is going to end

 

[thewave]

Berube was way too married to M&M

Nylander is our most skill forward and should play with a C who can keep up - Matthews

On any other team, Nylander is on the first line. Thank god this experiment is going to end

Exactly

 

[Superstar]

Maurice changed tactics and the matchup. Willy couldn't handle it and seemed to be always jammed up for every time he tried to carry the puck in. The old timers we moving 0 km/h by the time Willy found a route

Go look at replays. The stalled the line expertly and Berube just kept it as is.

Berube should have moved Willy up to play with Matthews, and moved Marner down to play with Tavares.

 

[thewave]

Berube should have moved Willy up to play with Matthews, and moved Marner down to play with Tavares.

That simple adjustment likely cost them the series. That and the loss of Stolarz

 

[Leaf Fans]

remind us all what the definition of insanity is.

Sure, insanity is working fifty hours a week in some office for fifty years... at the end of which they tell you to piss off? Ending up in some retirement village... hoping to die before suffering the indignity of trying to make it to the toilet on time.

 

[Stephen]

Berube should have moved Willy up to play with Matthews, and moved Marner down to play with Tavares.

Was Berube allowed to split up Auston and Mitch? Given Marner's contract is running out, one would have to think this was something AM34 was demanding.

 

[Legion34]

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I’ve listened pretty intently and by all accounts he has refused to even enter negotiations.

13.5 x8 would be 15.5. X 7. No competitive team is offering that.

 

[Superstar]

Was Berube allowed to split up Auston and Mitch? Given Marner's contract is running out, one would have to think this was something AM34 was demanding.

I think Berube just played it too safe, and thought their talent alone could get them through Florida...if game 5's 6-1 blowout didn't surprise him, game 7's blowout surely did.

 

[Stephen]

I’ve listened pretty intently and by all accounts he has refused to even enter negotiations.

13.5 x8 would be 15.5. X 7. No competitive team is offering that.

If Rantanen wins the Conn Smythe, I have a hard time seeing a legitimate contender going to $13.5-$15.5 million to add Marner knowing Dallas is getting a warhorse at millions below My Little Pony. Because you can't hide him behind your big dogs at that price tag.

Marner's next step post Toronto (not our problem) is basically going to be a choice between massive money and winning because I think the only teams that can offer him huge cash are going to be bubble playoff and late rebuilders who can afford the splash.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Was Berube allowed to split up Auston and Mitch? Given Marner's contract is running out, one would have to think this was something AM34 was demanding.

Of course, he is the coach.

 

[The Shadow]

Anyone notice that Marner was often covering his face when shots were coming ?

Protecting his eyes so he doesn’t miss out on that $100 million

 

[HofT]

Pointless question. Why don't you tell us, what makes you think Marner is as valuable to Rantanen? Can you think for yourself and come up with anything on your own or is the fact that Carolina was apparently interested in him all you got?


I didn't say it was a big deal, what I said was that I don't believe you, and I also explained why that is.

LOL I was thinking the exact same thing. Weird.

Yup.

I have a friend who teaches high school who loves it. Mind you the experience varies massively from one school to another so yeah, too bad your experience wasn't as good. I have another female friend who taught high school in urban New York City for a while in the 80s, not that is a whole other level of challenging as you can probably imagine.

Because we could have gotten Rantanen for Marner.

 

[Gabriel426]

This clip makes me sad for Mitch. Looks like a guy that knows its over, a Toronto kid who's dream is ending.

Then maybe he should had done better while he was here.

 

[ULF_55]

f*** it. Offer Marner 1x12-15 to show McDavid we will have capspace earmarked for him in the 1% chance scenario that he wants to come to Toronto. Maybe 2026 will still have their top end players available (Eichel/Kaprizov) or more quality top 6 options.

If you were marner would you sign a 1 year deal, even at Max?

Even Matthews may regret not going long term as his health continues to get worse.

 

[ULF_55]

Lol what an ignorant take. I’ve literally never heard a person use the term ‘Snowflake’ in my life, I guess that means my life is insular? I see it here all the time though, and if I watched Fox News I’m sure I’d hear it there too.

No it is almost anti-Fox News.

 

[ULF_55]

I know emotions are high, but letting go Marner and JT to overspend on the few other top 6 forward UFAs will push us closer to the Kessel-era (or post 2004 lockout) Leafs.

Enough talent to never be the worst in the league, no first round picks for the foreseeable future, and overpriced aging UFAs with terrible contracts to slowly drag us into the sewer (Clarkson, Armstrong, Lupul, Phaneuf, Bolland, etc.)

I'm not even suggesting doing the same thing, I'm just saying that we are in an absolute terrible position right now to blow it up and I dont trust Treliving to improve this team with the capspace given from Marner and/or JT leaving... especially with the poor UFA forward class available this year.

I don't get this "blow it up" result by one player exercising his free agency rights, after never winning more than 1 round of the playoffs his entire career?

This would not be the departure of a Conn Smythe level player leaving the team bereft of scorers.

 

[Menzinger]

If you were marner would you sign a 1 year deal, even at Max?

Even Matthews may regret not going long term as his health continues to get worse.

Yep, why sign for 13 when you can sign for guaranteed 95?

 

[L3af]

The hint is in the opening sentence.

But the finer point is, Reilly isn't good enough and there will be bidders on Gavrikov.

I would worry about the second step after the first; Buyout. Bench. Who cares. Moving forward requires less hand-wringing and greater gumption.

We're past hurt feelings.

Morgan sucks agreed. I'm more worried about finding guys who are hungry on pucks in the O-zone though.

We need some dogs who work their ass off up front.

 

[ULF_55]

Was Berube allowed to split up Auston and Mitch? Given Marner's contract is running out, one would have to think this was something AM34 was demanding.

Berube said he trusted them together, and my guess is "like a brother" wanted it that way.

It is kind of one of the issues I have with not investing in the future.

Don't play prospects.
Don't change what is working.
Don't accept the learning curve, example trying a winger at center but not accepting the growing pains.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Because we could have gotten Rantanen for Marner.

Sigh. Carolina would have done the trade only if Marner was willing to sign there which means they valued 7-8 years of Marner higher than a few months of Rantanen. That does not mean they value Marner as highly as Rantanen, this is pretty basic stuff.

I asked you what you think. You don't seem to have any thoughts of your own, you instead misinterpret what Carolina did as some sort of evidence. Instead of the old appeal to authority routine, why not try thinking for yourself? You might find that Ranta>>>Marner is pretty obvious and you can figure that out for yourself without letting others do your thinking for you.

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

Are you unaware of how centres play in the NHL?

Do you honestly believe Marner could match with other top line centers in the league?

This is quite possibly the worst take i've ever read. He can barely function on the wing due to his size, and wingers are typically OK to be on the smaller size.

Centre???? What are you on bro

Cool. Show me the part of my post where I said he would be good at playing centre.

 

[HofT]

Sigh. Carolina would have done the trade only if Marner was willing to sign there which means they valued 7-8 years of Marner higher than a few months of Rantanen. That does not mean they value Marner as highly as Rantanen, this is pretty basic stuff.

I asked you what you think. You don't seem to have any thoughts of your own, you instead misinterpret what Carolina did as some sort of evidence. Instead of the old appeal to authority routine, why not try thinking for yourself? You might find that Ranta>>>Marner is pretty obvious and you can figure that out for yourself without letting others do your thinking for you.

Of course that means they roughly see equal value. They're willing to trade Rantanen for Marner. And we could have got Rantanen. I'm not sure how you don't see this?

 

[ULF_55]

Little Brother didn't get much help from Big Brother.

Last 2 playoffs:

If the situation was reversed, marner under contract and Matthews UFA ... would the fans feels the same?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Of course that means they roughly see equal value. They're willing to trade Rantanen for Marner. And we could have got Rantanen. I'm not sure how you don't see this?

Did you even read what I said?

they valued 7-8 years of Marner higher than a few months of Rantanen. That does not mean they value Marner as highly as Rantanen, this is pretty basic stuff.

You seem you know basic English so I assume you're just being purposefully obtuse. I have better things to do with my time then to play these stupid games with you, have a nice night.