Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Part 3758391849

[keonsbitterness]

A hobby message board certainly isn't important enough for me to come on here and fake information.

Yet it is important enough for you to make 99/100 posts about Marner. Some might consider that an unhealthy obsession.

Correct technically it was a play in and not considered a playoff series

The league considers it both.

 

[Antropovsky]

It wasn't even shot attempts. It was shots. Which means a handful of data points where averages are easily skewed.

You isolated an irrelevant microstat in a tiny sample, ignored that that microstat for Marner was being skewed by some nothing shot from neutral ice and a set play that produced multiple goals, and then compared him to goalscorers he helped improve the stats of, based on this shot-based microstat that had little to do with how Marner provides offensive impact in the first place, in order to create a false narrative to bash him.

McDavid said a lot of things that you conveniently left out, and what you don't seem to realize is that being able to generate offense from higher areas of the offensive zone is not a bad thing.

Mcdavid litedally said "Marner plays high in the O zone"

The author of the article about Marners shot distance and slot shots titled the article "go to the net Marner"

How much more black and white do you need it? Are you just arguing to argue? Take the Marner glasses off.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Mcdavid litedally said "Marner plays high in the O zone"

McDavid said a lot of things, and none of them were criticisms.

Are you just arguing to argue?

I just answered the question of somebody who was confused because of your improper use of stats. You started talking to me.

 

[francis246]

Yet it is important enough for you to make 99/100 posts about Marner. Some might consider that an unhealthy obsession.

The league considers it both.

Yeah the league considers it! Edited my post, I double checked the NHL site and they considered the play in a part of the post season, hence it being a legit playoff series that is counted towards the NHL history.

 

[Hellcat]

....struck a chord have I? Faking insider information, that is bottom of the barrel desperation. And a tag you will permanently wear.

I have coached... not a lie. A hobby message board certainly isn't important enough for me to come on here and fake information.

Back to the convo.

Haven't we all...

Are you hoping for a Marner hatty tonight?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lol it was all Marners 5v5 shot attempts. The writer compared his stats equally to Nylander, Tavares and Matthews. Apples to apples. How can that be cherry picked? Lo and behold, Marners was substantially worse compared ro the others.

Also..Mcdavid said it himself "Marner plays offense high in the zone"

What more evidence do you need?

Is Mcdavid part of the Marner conspiracy?

No, complimented Marner and Reinhart saying" “Obviously two amazing players,” McDavid said. “Reinhart scores lots of goals. He has a great shot and is so smart. Mitch, obviously a playmaker, kind of plays up high in the zone, so definitely a good mix. It's fun to be out there with him for sure.”.
It is you who are trying to create the conspiracy by miss representation. Cherry picking bits of a quote - like you do with numbers as others have demonstrated.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Haven't we all...

Are you hoping for a Marner hatty tonight?

Win will be fine for me regardless.

 

[ACC1224]

No, complimented Marner and Reinhart saying" “Obviously two amazing players,” McDavid said. “Reinhart scores lots of goals. He has a great shot and is so smart. Mitch, obviously a playmaker, kind of plays up high in the zone, so definitely a good mix. It's fun to be out there with him for sure.”.
It is you who are trying to create the conspiracy by miss representation. Cherry picking bits of a quote - like you do with numbers as others have demonstrated.

I’m sure McDavid was happy where Marner placed himself when he gifted him the winning goal.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I’m sure McDavid was happy where Marner placed himself when he gifted him the winning goal.

For sure!

 

[Antropovsky]

No, complimented Marner and Reinhart saying" “Obviously two amazing players,” McDavid said. “Reinhart scores lots of goals. He has a great shot and is so smart. Mitch, obviously a playmaker, kind of plays up high in the zone, so definitely a good mix. It's fun to be out there with him for sure.”.
It is you who are trying to create the conspiracy by miss representation. Cherry picking bits of a quote - like you do with numbers as others have demonstrated.

I didn't miss represent anything Mcdavid literally said Marner "Kind of plays up high in the zone". It's not about what Mcdavid ment by his statement. It's the fact he literally confirms Marner plays far from the net "Marner plays high in the zone."

@Dekes For Days is arguing the writers of the article "go to the bet Mitch" cherry picked his stats and misrepresented the stats. Mcdavid even said Marner is far from the net lol! If your high in the zone, your shots naturally are gonna be far from the net!

 

[Leaf Fans]

I didn't miss represent anything Mcdavid literally said Marner "Kind of plays up high in the zone". It's not about what Mcdavid ment by his statement. It's the fact he literally confirms Marner plays far from the net "Marner plays high in the zone."

@Dekes For Days is arguing the writers of the article "go to the bet Mitch" cherry picked his stats and misrepresented the stats. Mcdavid even said Marner is far from the net lol! If your high in the zone, your shots naturally are gonna be far from the net!

You took a part of a quote praising Marner, and poorly attempted to use it as a criticism of Marner.

 

[The Shadow]

Is he playing tonight ?

 

[Antropovsky]

You took a part of a quote praising Marner, and poorly attempted to use it as a criticism of Marner.

Lol no I didn't. It's exactly what Mcdavid said "Marner kinda plays high in the zone"

Is it not? It's up to the listener to decide if it's a compliment or not.

But you jumped into a discussion regarding a sportsnet author indicating that Marner is far from the net.

A poster said the writer is misrepresenting Marners stats and cherry picking.

Once again... Mcdavid hinself indicates Marner plays high in the zone. That's completely factual. The Author says Marner plays high in the zone and should go to the net more.
So Mcdavid himself say Marner is playing far from the net lol. Did he say "Marner plays low in the zone?" No...he obviously didnt.

Do you deny that?

My god...let's slow this down:

Question for you:
What do you think high in the zone means?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lol no I didn't. It's exactly what Mcdavid said "Marner kinda plays high in the zone"

Is it not? It's up to the listener to decide if it's a compliment or not.

But you jumped into a discussion regarding a sportsnet writing that Marner is far from the net.

A poster said the writer is misrepresenting Marners stats and cherry picking.

Once again... Mcdavid indicates Marner plays high in the zone. The author says Marner plays high in the zone and should go to the net more.

Do you deny that?

My god...let's slow this down:

Question for you:
What do you think high in the zone means?

No, you to read/listen to the whole quote.

 

[Antropovsky]

No, you to read/listen to the whole quote.

... so your saying Mcdavid didn't say "Marner, kinda plays high in the zone"?

Let's break it down:
He says:
Two amazing players
Marner the playmaker
Plays kinda high in the zone
Fun to play with

He only makes one comment about where on the ice Marner is. "Marner kinda plays high in the zone"

The playmaker... doesn't say anything about where Marner is on the ice.

Fun to play with... doesn't say anything about where Marner is on the ice.

Two amazing players...doesn't say anything about where Marner is on the ice.

The conversation you jumped into..was an argument about Marner being far from the net.

So.... nobody is taking the quote out of context. There was only one part of the quote relevant to the discussion.

You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Leaf Fans]

... so your saying Mcdavid didn't say "Marner, kinda plays high in the zone"?

I am saying that McDavid complimented Marner when he said “Obviously two amazing players,” McDavid said. “Reinhart scores lots of goals. He has a great shot and is so smart. Mitch, obviously a playmaker, kind of plays up high in the zone, so definitely a good mix. "

 

[Leaf Fans]

Is he playing tonight ?

He sure is.

 

[Antropovsky]

I am saying that McDavid complimented Marner when he said “Obviously two amazing players,” McDavid said. “Reinhart scores lots of goals. He has a great shot and is so smart. Mitch, obviously a playmaker, kind of plays up high in the zone, so definitely a good mix. "

Okay... the argument that you jumped into was regarding a Sportsnet Author saying Marner needs to go to the net and stop playing far from the net.

Do you understand how Mcdavid saying Marner plays high in the zone is relevant to the discussion and the rest aren't?

What does "the playmaker" have to do with Marner playing far from the net? Which ONCE AGAIN is the argument you jumped into lol.

 

[arso40]

I am saying that McDavid complimented Marner when he said “Obviously two amazing players,” McDavid said. “Reinhart scores lots of goals. He has a great shot and is so smart. Mitch, obviously a playmaker, kind of plays up high in the zone, so definitely a good mix. "

Was he supposed to bad mouth him?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Was he supposed to bad mouth him?

No, he is supposed to be honest. Now, I am not naive enough to believe that people are honest all the time, but that wasn't the question. I am not going to assume he is lying though.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Okay... the argument that you jumped into was regarding a Sportsnet Author saying Marner needs to go to the net and stop playing far from the net.

Do you understand how Mcdavid saying Marner plays high in the zone is relevant to the discussion and the rest aren't?

What does "the playmaker" have to do with Marner playing far from the net? Which ONCE AGAIN is the argument you jumped into lol.

I provided the full quote. It should have helped you, but it didn't.

 

[Antropovsky]

I provided the full quote. It should have helped you, but it didn't.

You are not answering my questions because you know can't explain how anything else Mcdavid said has anything to do with the diacussion... and you are embarrassed as you should be.

If not.... then answer the question you've been asked twice and avoided twice. Explain how anything else Mcdavid said has to do with the article about Marner being far from the net?

 

[Leaf Fans]

You are not answering my questions because you know can't explain how anything else Mcdavid said has anything to do with the diacussion... and you are embarrassed as you should be.

If not.... then answer the question you've been asked twice and avoided twice. Explain how anything else Mcdavid said has to do with the article about Marner being far from the net?

I did answer. I tried to help you and you rejected that help. I provided the whole quote. You didn't. You cherry picked something to misrepresent what McDavid was saying. You also tried to enlist McDavid in to some conspiracy theory of your own invention. No one is avoiding your questions ( a common claim by you); you just don't l;like the answers.

 

[Antropovsky]

I did answer. I tried to help you and you rejected that help. I provided the whole quote. You didn't. You cherry picked something to misrepresent what McDavid was saying. You also tried to enlist McDavid in to some conspiracy theory of your own invention. No one is avoiding your questions ( a common claim by you); you just don't l;like the answers.

Lol and you've avoided the question again.

You are humiliating yourself, stop while your way behind.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lol and you've avoided the question again.

You are humiliating yourself, stop while your way behind.

Lol, is that some kind of internet rhetoric?