Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued
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You're missing the point. We're talking about leadership qualities and while that's something that's not possible to measure definitively, it would be a stretch to say Mahomes takes a back seat to anyone in that regard. They're all really good players though, if I was drafting a team to play one playoff season for me and I had 1st pick, I'd try to trade down to picking 3rd because I don't think there's much to choose from between those three guys.
If you really want to make people puke, you should put together a clip of Marner in game 3 vs Florida. It doesn't get any worse than that, or if it does than I haven't seen it.
I acknowledge that you don't like it but the math is the math. Absolutely nothing can "proven" with so little data.
Anecdotally what I remember most from the last series was those last three games. Marner played elite defensively and if he had scored that fluke goal instead of the other way around he would have been the hero and everyone around here would have loved him (or course until they lost again) .
If one fluke goal can take a hero to zero then surely the zero isn't deserved.
Yup, he sure is. He's super consistent too, for 86 games a year he's money in the bank. He's one of those guys you can basically pencil in for the all-star team before the season starts.
Overall he's a playoff disappointment though, so is Matthews, so is JT, and those 3 guys are at the top of my list of reasons for why we're 1-8 in playoff series with this core..
Super bingo!! I had 86 games on all four corners on my weekly thread bingo card. Two wins in one day what are the odds?
It would honestly be better for everyone if he never gave an interview again.
Even if/when he's well meaning he always sticks his foot in his mouth
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He was in the Super Bowl…..in fact he was in four super bowls….and he won three super bowls.
Wouldn’t it be nice if one of the Leafs so called stars was like Josh Allen and was good enough to advanced the team in the playoffs?
Not in the playoffs. It is men vs boys in the playoffs.
Ranta is a 100+ point playoff player. Marner is a 72 point playoff player.
Marner may never reach Ranta's 34 playoff goals.
I'll take my chances with the 6'4" 215 lbs, strong, skilled, goal scorer Ranta. Thanks.
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With anyone? 5v5 He had 6 points in 14 games while Matthews was out this year and he played most of the mins with Tavares.
Since 2019, Marner has played only with Tavares and Matthews, but primarily with Matthews since 2019. I dont think he has even 100 mins since 2019 without Matthews or Tavares on his line.
He was on Domi's line for a short time when Matthews was injured, had 0 points and the line was bad... Berube eventually put Marner with Tavares and instead put Nylander with leftovers.
The Toronto Maple Leafs put up a rather lackluster effort in their highly anticipated matchup against the Vancouver Canucks on Hockey Night in Canada Saturday night and following the game you could tell that the Leafs were unhappy about how they had played… most of them at least.
One Maple Leaf is being raked over the coals on Sunday for his post game comments, comments in which he praised the effort from his team in a performance that was described as lifeless by others. That Maple Leaf is none other than star forward Mitch Marner, who admittedly seemed a little detached from reality when speaking to the media about the game.
“I liked it,” said Marner when asked about the team’s level of effort. “I thought we played well, I really did. The last couple of games, we’ve been giving up plays to teams that aren’t missing on them.”
Those comments come in stark contrast to comments made by head coach Craig Berube, who apparently was watching a different game than Marner.
“We need more life and energy,” said Berube of his team’s lifeless effort.
National Hockey League veteran Chris Tanev was apparently watching the same game as his head coach, which leaves me to ask what the hell was Mitch Marner watching?
“Not good enough,” said Tanev of the Leafs’ effort. “They outworked us, outcompeted us. That’s why they won.”
This has led to much criticism being directed at Marner today both from fans and pundits alike. Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun wasted no time calling out Marner for his comments.
“Mitch Marner is delusional,” said Simmons.
Simmons wasn’t alone in his criticism, fans also jumped on Marner for his comments.
One Maple Leaf is being raked over the coals on Sunday for his post game comments, comments in which he praised the effort from his team in a performance that was described as lifeless by others. That Maple Leaf is none other than star forward Mitch Marner, who admittedly seemed a little detached from reality when speaking to the media about the game.
“I liked it,” said Marner when asked about the team’s level of effort. “I thought we played well, I really did. The last couple of games, we’ve been giving up plays to teams that aren’t missing on them.”
Those comments come in stark contrast to comments made by head coach Craig Berube, who apparently was watching a different game than Marner.
“We need more life and energy,” said Berube of his team’s lifeless effort.
National Hockey League veteran Chris Tanev was apparently watching the same game as his head coach, which leaves me to ask what the hell was Mitch Marner watching?
“Not good enough,” said Tanev of the Leafs’ effort. “They outworked us, outcompeted us. That’s why they won.”
This has led to much criticism being directed at Marner today both from fans and pundits alike. Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun wasted no time calling out Marner for his comments.
“Mitch Marner is delusional,” said Simmons.
Simmons wasn’t alone in his criticism, fans also jumped on Marner for his comments.
Advance stats mean poop...no points or wins are given for advance stats, no cup is awarded for advance stats.
Definitely. With the benefit of hindsight, he was a poor choice to wear a letter. And this latest quote is at least a little bit concerning because as the saying goes, the first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging that there is a problem that needs fixing. Marner thinks everything is just fine, not a good sign.
I can't help but wonder if Matthews said anything to him about this - I doubt it. I also can't help but wish we had someone like the great Mark Messier for captain instead, he'd give Mitch a smack and straighten him out in a big hurry, and maybe Marner would learn his lesson and never say anything that stupid again.
Id really like to watch game 3 FLA series back. Anyone know of networks or websites that offer replays from past playoffs? Not sure if NHL.com does.
Try CBC Gem app or Sportsnet. Those two live streamed most of the playoff games in Canada. So it’s likely one of them have a reply on their app or website.
Can’t believe I’m doing this, but I promised to be nicer in 2025 lol. I found a live replay for you. Dangle is commentating though, so probably better to watch on mute.
Or if you wanna see him lose his shit listen. I want to rewatch too lol.
If one bad play can take a hero to zero then surely the hero isn't deserved.
I don’t recall Matthews really being the kind of player and now captain to take defeat so hard and put it all on himself to be responsible, dig deep and lead the way. It’s always a very even keeled, process driven, arms length from taking any specific personal blame. Maybe that’s just the modern athlete.
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Next we have to trade Matthews for someone that can create plays and pass the puck to Rantanen
You want to know how many browny points marner would get if he said “I want to apologize to our loyal fans for that performance tonight. It’s up to us to play a lot better especially on home ice”
He doesn’t even need to apologize. Just be realistic and honest. Stop being delusional and at least show he gives a crap once in a while.
I just don’t see it happening. He’s a spoiled brat and it’s a character flaw that isn’t going to be changed.
That's a main reason (for me at least) why this current group is just so.. unlikable.
You never see these guys step it up and red line the engine like previous Leafs favs Sittler, Clark, or Gilmour etc.
Sure, some guys lead by example on the ice, and some by speaking up in the room where I know we aren't privy to it as fans.. but it is awfully hard to imagine - like impossible - an Austin Matthews or any of Marner/Nylander/Mumbles Tavares doing that either.
They are all just so uninspired and entitled. Maybe I'm just reaching my old man yelling at cloud phase.
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