Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[keonsbitterness]

No one here knows what Marner is asking. His agent hasn’t leaked anything and the team hasn’t leaked anything. This is just more speculative nonsense.

It stands to reason Matthews and Nylander will be the only comparables since his agent said Matthews and Tavares were the only comparables used in 2019.

 

[francis246]

It stands to reason Matthews and Nylander will be the only comparables since his agent said Matthews and Tavares were the only comparables used in 2019.

Apologies if I come across as a dick here. But that’s still speculative no? That would just be us assuming that. We don’t have definitive proof those are the comparables he will elect to use. We are just guessing based off what happened last time. So my statement would be true, everything mess said was speculative. We don’t actually know what Marner’s asking price is.

I heard a very possible105m by 25/26



if true and we'll use 96m which with another jump of 10% would put the cap at 105.6m

Elliot said on 32 thoughts it could be as high as 110m in 2 seasons at the start of the new CBA.

 

[ULF_55]

Elliot said on 32 thoughts it could be as high as 110m in 2 seasons at the start of the new CBA.

You were here about 8 years when the prediction was $100mm by now.

The pandemic killed that, but there is something else on the way.

Tighten the belts ...

 

[francis246]

You were here about 8 years when the prediction was $100mm by now.

The pandemic killed that, but there is something else on the way.

Tighten the belts ...

Yeah Covid decimated those projections. The Roger’s rights deal was supposed to have the cap at $100m. Hence part of the reason Toronto has some of the contracts it does now. But seems like players and league will go to 50/50 split of revenue in the next CBA and the cap is going to go up. Looking forward to it. I think player movement is good for the game. I would like to see teams not give out as many NMC’s if they are going to pay more for players.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Apologies if I come across as a dick here. But that’s still speculative no? That would just be us assuming that. We don’t have definitive proof those are the comparables he will elect to use. We are just guessing based off what happened last time. So my statement would be true, everything mess said was speculative. We don’t actually know what Marner’s asking price is.

Speculation, sure, but at least it's based on something. As for mess.....I better not go there.

 

[ULF_55]

Yeah Covid decimated those projections. The Roger’s rights deal was supposed to have the cap at $100m. Hence part of the reason Toronto has some of the contracts it does now. But seems like players and league will go to 50/50 split of revenue in the next CBA and the cap is going to go up. Looking forward to it. I think player movement is good for the game. I would like to see teams not give out as many NMC’s if they are going to pay more for players.

A better bonus structure would make a tonne of sense.

Not straight forward when it comes to % of HRR, but perhaps part of the calculation could be contributions to HRR per team. If Team A is contributing $$$$ and Team B is contributing -$$$, some fairness to the fans paying the freight might be fair.

 

[Dekes For Days]

We are just guessing based off what happened last time.

And it's not even what happened last time. The agent never said what the poster claimed. Nobody knows the details of last time or this time, and people should probably just wait for the contract that we will hopefully sign. Then people can spend years being angry at the contract they refuse to understand.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Kyper keeps suggesting they give Marner a shot at C. Domi clearly is better winger than a C but with Matty out, they play him at C and not Marner or Nylander.

The last couple of games they have been playing Nylander at C instead of Domi.

 

[keonsbitterness]

TSN reported that Marner's agent said what the poster claimed, so the poster will go with TSN over an anonymous poster, especially one with a clear and obvious bias.

 

[leafs in five]

Yep. Marner Fans jumping up and down about his points but fail to give Tavares and Mcmann cresit for their incredible play on the 5v5 goal.

Tavares was amazing, watch how quickly he gets up off the ice and powers to the net to create the goal, with his great hand in tight.

Meanwhile Kelly Hrudey highlighted Marner lazy effort in the Boston series - how Marner took a light slash and fell to the ice and took forever to get up lol. That was playoff Marner, this is season Tavares!

can only speak for myself but I absolutely refuse to give McMann any credit for the first goal on saturday night

 

[Dekes For Days]

TSN reported that Marner's agent said what the poster claimed, so the poster will go with TSN over an anonymous poster

TSN did not report that Marner's agent said that. TSN reported that Marner's agent said something entirely different. TSN also reported direct quotes from the agent contradicting that claim. Anonymous posters like to listen to what TSN and agents actually say, instead of letting bias jump them to the assumptions they want.

 

[ToneDog]

Kyper shilling for Marner. Says Marner should be looking at Draisaitl and could get it if elsewhere if Leafs pass. Bourne responded bout Marner not producing 5 on 5. Sammy also disagreed with Kyper.

Anybody paying Marner, Draisaitl money will never win a cup. Leafs can't because they already have two players making almost $25m. A team that can probably does not have the stars Mitch needs to succeed.