Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[Nineteen67]

I don't think that's the case at all. The decision to retain or let him walk won't be made over a few games.


This guy gets it.

It’s been more than a few games. You can’t pay him 12 million if he can’t play.

 

[ZEBROA]

Dude is getting resigned 100% and some fans are just going to have to deal with it. It's very obvious he's our most important player after Matthews, and his ice time proves that. There may have been a question about how he would fit in a Berube system, but I think we have that answer already.

All fans need to deal with all signings but they dont need to like them, or think that it is the best for the team.

IMO We could get better without him and we could get worse. It depends. If he gets resigned for a lot, the heat will turn up even more. I hope he can handle that. That is what i am most worried about.

 

[ACC1224]

It’s been more than a few games. You can’t pay him 12 million if he can’t play.

You just said yourself they would decide on this seasons playoffs.

 

[Nineteen67]

He's already proven he can play in the playoffs. Some of his postseasons haven't been good, sure, but others have. The Leafs mgmt arent stupid. They know he was coming off a major injury last postseason. They will take the entire body of work into consideration when making a major decision like this.

They can set the parameters, which may differ from ours, and if he meets them they’ll re-sign him.

They’re in a tough spot. I’m not convinced they can win big with the three amigos and Marner is likely the best of the three.

 

[Nineteen67]

You just said yourself they would decide on this seasons playoffs.

It’s a cumulation, and this is his last chance.

 

[GoonieFace]

It’s been more than a few games. You can’t pay him 12 million if he can’t play.

They can and they will. I expect an extension mid season. 8 years @ $12/mil per season. For Leaf fans sake, I hope they can find some playoff success.

 

[supermann_98]

I really believe win or lose in the first round the Leafs offer Marner a contract in the neighborhood of $12m for 8 years. If he takes it they will all be happy, if he doesn’t I’d send that same offer to Rantanen except for 7 years and $12.6m. I’m sure based on what MacKinnon is making in Colorado ($12.6m) they’d have a hard time giving Rants the same amount and we’d have a big-bodied power forward 50 goal scorer to replace the skinny wimp who disappears in the playoffs

 

[Nineteen67]

They can and they will. I expect an extension mid season. 8 years @ $12/mil per season. For Leaf fans sake, I hope they can find some playoff success.

That is an option. But if it doesn’t work again, then what?

 

[ACC1224]

It’s a cumulation, and this is his last chance.

If it's a 'cumulation' a few more games wouldn't make a difference.

 

[ToneDog]

He's already proven he can play in the playoffs. Some of his postseasons haven't been good, sure, but others have. The Leafs mgmt arent stupid. They know he was coming off a major injury last postseason. They will take the entire body of work into consideration when making a major decision like this.

The Leafs mgmt are stupid and you can't fix stupid.

Sorry not putting myself in cap hell for another 4-8 years for a player on a 16 goal, 72 point pace and a 1 and 8 in the playoffs. His numbers in games 5-7 are even worse.

How many more playoff failures do we need to see before we finally admit that this core cannot get it done?

 

[ITM]

Basically don’t sing praises til we see the playoffs

I'm right there with you, to the point in fact, I've repeatedly stated on our boards, that my focus is on July 1st, 2025 given our other obvious depth needs that likely can't be addressed without the windfall from what's leftover of MM's and JT's present cap hits.

But I think its a good habit of serious fanbases to appear balanced and give credit where and when its due. If he regresses...I'll be here to note it.

 

[Roo]

The Leafs mgmt are stupid and you can't fix stupid.

Sorry not putting myself in cap hell for another 4-8 years for a player on a 16 goal, 72 point pace and a 1 and 8 in the playoffs. His numbers in games 5-7 are even worse.

How many more playoff failures do we need to see before we finally admit that this core cannot get it done?

I get that Leaf fans are frustrated, and rightfully so, but stupid would be walking away from a talented player like Marner, in my opinion. Teams generally don't do that. Also, the cap is going up, and Tavares' $11M comes down. So, are we really in cap hell?

Who are you spending the money on in UFA that will make us better and improves our flexibility cap-wise?

I really believe win or lose in the first round the Leafs offer Marner a contract in the neighborhood of $12m for 8 years. If he takes it they will all be happy, if he doesn’t I’d send that same offer to Rantanen except for 7 years and $12.6m. I’m sure based on what MacKinnon is making in Colorado ($12.6m) they’d have a hard time giving Rants the same amount and we’d have a big-bodied power forward 50 goal scorer to replace the skinny wimp who disappears in the playoffs

If he makes it to UFA. Doubt he makes it, players like him generally don't become available as UFA. Even if he does, it doesn't mean he's coming here.

 

[ToneDog]

I get that Leaf fans are frustrated, and rightfully so, but stupid would be walking away from a talented player like Marner, in my opinion. Teams generally don't do that. Also, the cap is going up, and Tavares' $11M comes down. So, are we really in cap hell?

Who are you spending the money on in UFA that will make us better and improves our flexibility cap-wise?

If you keep Marner and Tavares (as many expect), how much do you have left for Knies after Woll and McCabe get their raises? Our bottom 6 is a black hole as it stands and if they are punted in round #1, you can't run it back and seriously think the outcome will be any different.

I am fine with resigning Marner at the right price. Unfortunately what he thinks is the right price, nobody except the Leafs will pay. Same was true for 88.

 

[GoonieFace]

That is an option. But if it doesn’t work again, then what?

I doubt that concerns Leafs management. They keep the band together and than have a group retirement ceremony