Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Again

[Gary Nylund]

Is he?

Isn't he?

When Matthews gets his mojo going again, I agree that he’s our best player. But overall for this season, I honestly think it has been Marner. Don’t get me wrong; Willy has been pretty close and has certainly been “the man” on a lot of nights.

I get why people might say Marner but Tanev would be my pick. He's been incredible, I had no idea how good he was.

Dmen are underrated in general and the guys cap hit is only 4.5m as well. Imagine if instead of signing Marner for 13m, we somehow added 3 more Dmen as good as Tanev. Instead of being a top 10 regular season and 1st round playoff fodder we'd be cup favorites.

 

[Antropovsky]

It has nothing to do with salaries, it has everything to do with nitpicking goals. It seems pointless. Who cares? Why does it matter to you so much how he scores goals? I’ve never seen anyone care that much how goals go in. I get if it’s empty net vs regular goals. But if he’s scoring regular goals who cares? Whether it comes from the point or in tight, who gives a shit? As long as it’s going in.

You’re saying that driving play to score the goals matters and I’m saying lots of players do not drive play but end up scoring goals in a variety of ways. Hyper fixating on Marner’s goals and trying to diminish every point he gets does come across hater-ish IMO.

There is a reason Keefe and Berube won't play Marner on his "own" line...but they did and do with Matthews, Nylander and Tavares.

 

[Racer88]

Media personalities rage baiting to get clicks say some of the things you say. Everybody actually in the NHL values Marner a ton.

He said he always wanted to be a Leaf because he always wanted to be a Leaf. I'm not sure what you think those two things have to do with each other.

What one media guy "thinks he heard" isn't a fact, and whatever Ferris was negotiating with teams, it doesn't mean Marner would have signed it. He got two offer sheets, and didn't sign them.

So “everybody” in the NHL values him a ton……..like literally everyone? You know everyone in the NHL and they have told you that.

 

[francis246]

There is a reason Keefe and Berube won't play Marner on his "own" line...but they did and do with Matthews, Nylander and Tavares.

Lol what’s the reason?

 

[BTP]

Complete player is a nebulous term so whatever. You said he's the best, and he's not.

He is the best. And the most complete. Whos been better this year? Auston Matthews? LOL

I dont understand what game you guys are watching.

 

[leafs in five]

There is a reason Keefe and Berube won't play Marner on his "own" line...but they did and do with Matthews, Nylander and Tavares.

Because there are 3 forwards on a line?

 

[William Johnson]

Just to chime in on this topic again as it's been a sore spot for me for a long time. There's been a lot of talk here recently and for years (mostly from the same people) about offer sheets and 'facts'. The only fact is that Ferris and Marner claimed they received offer sheets.

 

[Dekes For Days]

The only fact is that Ferris and Marner claimed they received offer sheets.

More accurately, there were multiple reports about offer sheet discussions for Marner (a player who would draw offer sheet interest) in an offseason where offer sheets happened, and then both Marner and his agent noted after the negotiation that he received specifically two offer sheets, and confirmed that the offer sheeting team had notified the GM of the offer sheet themselves, and none of this has ever been disputed by anybody.

 

[William Johnson]

More accurately, there were multiple reports about offer sheet discussions for Marner (a player who would draw offer sheet interest) in an offseason where offer sheets happened, and then both Marner and his agent noted after the negotiation that he received specifically two offer sheets, and confirmed that the offer sheeting team had notified the GM of the offer sheet themselves, and none of this has ever been disputed by anybody.

Or independently confirmed, either.

 

[Gary Nylund]

He is the best. And the most complete. Whos been better this year? Auston Matthews? LOL

I dont understand what game you guys are watching.

Scroll up a couple of posts and you'll see I already said Tanev would be my pick. I'll say Marner's been the best forward if that makes you happy but who cares anyway? As far as I'm concerned, the real season starts in April, and if Marner once again produces at a ~40 point pace when it matters most, that would once again show just how meaningless it is to talk about who's "best" in February. Haven't the last few years been enough to drill home this simple reality?

 

[IPS]

Just to chime in on this topic again as it's been a sore spot for me for a long time. There's been a lot of talk here recently and for years (mostly from the same people) about offer sheets and 'facts'. The only fact is that Ferris and Marner claimed they received offer sheets.

"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions." — Leonardo da Vinci