Miscellaneous NHL Talk V7.0 - 2018/19 Regular Season

[LegionOfDoom91]

The reality is McDavid should have won it. But his team didn’t make the playoffs so that ruled him out in the minds of the media.

Hall basically won it because New Jersey didn’t/doesn’t have much high end talent behind him so the total point discrepancy between him & the next guy was 41. The Flyers scored 249 goals to New Jersey’s 241.

He had a really good season but the numbers didn’t really support him being the MVP. The narrative did which is ultimately what decides these things anyway.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

He’s probably the worst Hart winner ever, actually that’s a fact, he won because he team sucked ass and instead of hockey media pointing out the obvious ****tiness of the Devils they all bit on the “whats trending right now” horse **** reporting that is passed off as hockey coverage these days

You're not wrong. It was ridiculous.

 

[GKJ]

I couldn't imagine getting upset about NHL awards. Just a bunch of hockey media and elites being in love with themselves and enforcing the season-long narratives they created and then congratulating each other for it.

 

[deadhead]

Last year I remember people posting how smart Shero was and how Hynes was a much better coach than Hakstol. This year "crickets."

Nico v Patrick, part II:

Nico 2.06 pp/60, CF 53.76, CFrel +7.46, GF/GA 9/8, xGF 59.48, xGFrel +10.65, HDCF/CA 54/26
Patrick 2.69 pp/60, CF 47.59, CFrel -3.46, GF/GA 9/9, xGF 54.22, xGFrel +6.70, HDCF/CA 35/26

 

[FlyTimmo]

Last year I remember people posting how smart Shero was and how Hynes was a much better coach than Hakstol. This year "crickets."

Nico v Patrick, part II:

Nico 2.06 pp/60, CF 53.76, CFrel +7.46, GF/GA 9/8, xGF 59.48, xGFrel +10.65, HDCF/CA 54/26
Patrick 2.69 pp/60, CF 47.59, CFrel -3.46, GF/GA 9/9, xGF 54.22, xGFrel +6.70, HDCF/CA 35/26

Hynes is still a much better coach than Hakstol.

 

[Harhis]

Last year I remember people posting how smart Shero was and how Hynes was a much better coach than Hakstol. This year "crickets."

Nico v Patrick, part II:

Nico 2.06 pp/60, CF 53.76, CFrel +7.46, GF/GA 9/8, xGF 59.48, xGFrel +10.65, HDCF/CA 54/26
Patrick 2.69 pp/60, CF 47.59, CFrel -3.46, GF/GA 9/9, xGF 54.22, xGFrel +6.70, HDCF/CA 35/26

And your point was? Nico having better stats than Nolan somehow proofs people were wrong?

 

[deadhead]

No point at all, just following the pair, who'll always be linked together (like Kane and JVR).
Patrick had a slow start but still has nice numbers, what's obvious is both teams got top players.
Or why rebuilds go faster if you get to pick in the top 5-10 for a few years!

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Can you imagine what the Hakstol version of this article would look like?

How Devils' John Hynes balances coaching and analytics

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

"How Flyer's Dave Hakstol balances coaching and beet farming"

 

[Sombastate]

"How Flyer's Dave Hakstol balances coaching and free-basing his own granulated farts"

 

[kudymen]

Plekanec retires from the NHL but aims to go to Czech Extraliga (Jágr's Kladno is an option, not very likely this season though)

 

[deadhead]

Can you imagine what the Hakstol version of this article would look like?

How Devils' John Hynes balances coaching and analytics

Pretty much the same, everyone uses analytics now, and in a similar fashion.
Problem is a lot of analytics are SSS, so in the end you have to use judgment and heuristics as well as data.
A smart analyst uses the data to guide the next set of questions, a dumb analyst thinks the data has all the answers.

 

[kudymen]

A smart analyst uses the data to guide the next set of questions, a dumb analyst thinks the data has all the answers.

Remembering a lot of discussions I had with our management the past few years....

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Plekanec retires from the NHL but aims to go to Czech Extraliga (Jágr's Kladno is an option, not very likely this season though)

He injured or just cooked? Btw what happened to vrbata?

 

[Rebels57]

"How Flyer's Dave Hakstol balances coaching and free-basing his own granulated farts"

"Freebasing his own granulated farts" is perhaps the greatest phrase I have ever read.

 

[Hapiii]

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[kudymen]

He injured or just cooked? Btw what happened to vrbata?

Plekanec was a healthy scratch before and even though he worked harder last off-season, he didnt improve the way he could keep up with current Habs roster (not my words, Bergevin). Then he injured his back and even though he is almost healthy, Bergevin wanted to move on - Bergevin offered to trade Plekanec but he refused, he said he wanted to retire a Hab (which is kind of a cool thing after achieving a 1.000th game in their jersey). Source

Vrbata retired a while ago mainly for family reasons. He claimed before the 2017/18 season he made an agreement with the Panthers management to retire after the season. His oldest son is 9 and they decided to move back to CZE to get the kids Czech education. Source

 

[Jtown]

The reality is McDavid should have won it. But his team didn’t make the playoffs so that ruled him out in the minds of the media.

Hall basically won it because New Jersey didn’t/doesn’t have much high end talent behind him so the total point discrepancy between him & the next guy was 41. The Flyers scored 249 goals to New Jersey’s 241.

He had a really good season but the numbers didn’t really support him being the MVP. The narrative did which is ultimately what decides these things anyway.

Trades pp units and line changes also impacted the point differential between hall and his linemates. Worst hart trophy decision in a while.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Trades pp units and line changes also impacted the point differential between hall and his linemates. Worst hart trophy decision in a while.

The narrative coming into the season was probably that New Jersey would be a bottom ten team. So that probably played into it as well.

It is what it is. The writers basically use regular stats as it’s nearly impossible to truly watch everybody but they use them in the most basic sense without really even digging into them to find context.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Can someone explain what this means?

 

[kudymen]

Dallas imploding

 

[Magua]

Can someone explain what this means?

It means Fire Hakstok.

 

[Striiker]

Can someone explain what this means?

He’s saying Manning was a perfect example of the fans and coaches butting heads when it comes to evaluating players, so it’s natural that the fans are enjoying the own goal so much.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Dallas imploding

As a Predators bettor today, this is fully endorsed.

 

[bennysflyers16]

As a Predators bettor today, this is fully endorsed.

I had Flyers and NucKS for nice little payday.
Sabres score two in last 2 mins to tie and NucKS couldn’t score in ot with 2 mins of PP.