Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCVIII: Orange is the new Orange (Poll in OP)

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

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[deadhead]

Burnt Orange. What can I say, I'm a Longhorn.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Burnt Orange. What can I say, I'm a Longhorn.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I have zero idea what Chicago is doing at this point. Even if you don’t view these guys as future pieces they should be looked at as potential trade assets.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Joseph & Mogilny are better than Barrasso, Vernon, & Turgeron.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I probably put Mogilny In before Turgeon. But there is always going to be someone left out. I don’t envy the voters. That’s a tough job dissecting all the numbers for all worthy candidates. Hitch was well overdue.

 

[Rebels57]

Turgeon belongs but not ahead of Mogilny.

Barrasso i'm unsure of, but he does have 2 Cups, 1 Calder, 1 Vezina, 4 other top 3 Vezina finishes, and 4 more top 9 Vezina finishes. That being said, his stats indicate he was in the same tier as a guy like Kelly Hrudey, rather than a HHoFer. Seems like he is getting in based on the Hardware and the Penguins bump.

 

[GKJ]

Would bet anything that if Mogilny wasn’t Russian, he would be in.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Not just the on ice credentials but you’d think being the first Russian defector paving the way for future Russian HoF players would be a noteworthy off the ice accolade.

 

[deadhead]

Not just the on ice credentials but you’d think being the first Russian defector paving the way for future Russian HoF players would be a noteworthy off the ice accolade.

I'd think the league would like to down play that given the current situation with Russia.
Don't poke the Bear.

 

[GKJ]

Not just the on ice credentials but you’d think being the first Russian defector paving the way for future Russian HoF players would be a noteworthy off the ice accolade.

The thing is with a lot of the Soviet defectors, it was ultimately a political gambit. At least almost all went back, maybe all, I don’t know. A lot are cozy with Putin. Some of them work *in the government.*

Mogilny is someone who was shot at I believe as he defected (his agent too I think). You wouldn’t think he’d be eager to return and become president of a KHL team, but that’s exactly what happened.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Joseph & Mogilny are better than Barrasso, Vernon, & Turgeron.

They passed up Elias, Mogilny, Mikhailov, Zetterberg, Holecek, and Gonchar for some absolute dreck.

(Not Lundqvist. He deserves every bit of it.)

Vernon is a worse induction than Andreychuk and I do not say that lightly.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Barrasso, Turgeon, and Vernon?

Come on. I really hate how Halls of Fame have become so watered down.

And I have no idea who Caroline Ouellette is.

I approve of Lundqvist. And Hitchcock as a builder.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

There are at least 7 Goalies still out you shouldn’t have to think about before getting to Vernon. And one of them was a Flame.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I would definitely put CuJo in before Vernon.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

There are at least 7 Goalies still out you shouldn’t have to think about before getting to Vernon. And one of them was a Flame.

Ok, I had to go through this because it’s so baffling. I wouldn’t put in Barrasso, but I get it. Undeniably before I get to Vernon, I would induct:

Jiri Holecek
Curtis Joseph
Mike Luit
Miikka Kiprusoff
Mike Richter
John Vanbiesbrouck
Roman Cechmanek
Tim Thomas

That’s 8 clearly better with 5 minutes of thought.

*Edit* I forgot Giguere. That’s 9.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think Vanbiesbrouck isn’t getting in at this point, probably don’t want to open that can of worms given his racial tirade against a player post career.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I think Vanbiesbrouck isn’t getting in at this point, probably don’t want to open that can of worms given his racial tirade against a player post career.

I completely forgot that was a thing.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I think Vanbiesbrouck isn’t getting in at this point, probably don’t want to open that can of worms given his racial tirade against a player post career.

Still good enough for USA Hockey though!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I completely forgot that was a thing.

Yeah Seravelli mentioned it recently in his like HoF potential inductees series. I think it was in the CuJo one he mentioned how on the ice Beezer might have been someone worthy of getting in eventually but it’s likely slim now given that incident & the likely PR backlash.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Just saw a picture of Peter Laviolette at his NYR introductory press conference.

He appears to be following the Sheldon Keefe / DJ Smith diet, who appear to be following the Ken Hitchcock diet.

 

[baudib1]

Mogilny not getting in is an absolute joke. Let them put Paul Henderson in and no one will ever take the HHOD seriously again.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It is wild they separated the men from the women in voting by giving the women their own ballot with the possibility of two women each year but seemingly never use that second spot.

Not gonna sit here & act like I know shit about women’s hockey but on the men’s side you piss away spots on undeserving candidates who are essentially friends with the voters. So why not extend it to the women too if that’s your reasoning.

 

[CutOnDime97]

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