Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CXI: The Last One Went So Long Because I Didn't Know What The Next Number Was

[usahockey22flyers]

Draft picks outside the lotto are in reverse standings order, with the conference finalists moved to picks 29-32. This prevents Colorado from falling to that point, and their pick gets better if any teams worse in the regular season than they were (STL, FLA, CAR, EDM) make the finals. (Though obviously Edmonton making it is worse for us.)

Gotcha - so we have a ways to go here?

 

[ponder719]

Gotcha - so we have a ways to go here?

Yeah, we won't know for sure where we stand until the end of next round. The optimal outcome is St. Louis winning tomorrow night, and Vegas, Florida, Carolina, and St. Louis making the conference finals, if I'm reading things correctly. That would put the two picks as early as they can go.

 

[Curufinwe]

Dallas sucks. They are missing their best player but they are still a loaded team and shouldn’t be laying an egg in a game 7 in the 1st round

Heh

 

[ajgoal]

For once the Western Conference didn't let me down.

 

[GKJ]

Pretty incredible what Landeskog did in this series as well. He missed 3 years and drops into *this* series and was like he never left. We've seen other players come back from far less and not be able to match that.

 

[Curufinwe]

Now they gotta make a roster with him on it.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Heh

In my defense, Dallas looked like they were toast at the time of that post. That’s what makes the comeback and Rantanen even better

 

[GKJ]

 

[Magua]

Dallas rues the day they took Stankoven.

Does our pick change that we have of the Avs?

Sorta. They’ll just select the same player though.

 

[Sombastate]

Man, that was incredible. I've been a bit of a Rantanen hater, and it was still so awesome. What a dominant performance

 

[BiggE]

Best case for the Flyers would be the conf. finalists as: FLA, CAR, STL, VEG. That leaves the Flyers at 21 & 23

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Look at that not a single comment about filling the net doesn't win you games. The board is healing

 

[JRichard]

Best case for the Flyers would be the conf. finalists as: FLA, CAR, STL, VEG. That leaves the Flyers at 21 & 23

I believe it would be 21 and 22. Edm was 24th and Colo 25th at start of PO so they cant be « separated » if both lose in first 2 rounds. Thinking Colo will end up 24th and Edm 29th.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

A Rantanen hatty would be a neat game 7 event.

No shade, @Hollywood Cannon

Yeah, real neat.

Fart noise. Sports are stupid.

Great way to start a Sunday. DVR’d the third.

*if it had to be someone I’m glad it’s him.

 

[Rebels57]

Why did the Avs not want to extend Rantanen again?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Best case for the Flyers would be the conf. finalists as: FLA, CAR, STL, VEG. That leaves the Flyers at 21 & 23

I would have almost no interest in these games, but I’ll be rooting for it lol

 

[ajgoal]

Best case for the Flyers would be the conf. finalists as: FLA, CAR, STL, VEG. That leaves the Flyers at 21 & 23

No.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Why did the Avs not want to extend Rantanen again?

They did. He didn’t accept their offer and then he essentially accepted that same offer with the Stars.

 

[ellja3]

What do you guys think is gonna happen tonight? Helle flops? I sure as heck hope not, buuuut...

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

What do you guys think is gonna happen tonight? Helle flops? I sure as heck hope not, buuuut...

sco Blues

 

[Curufinwe]

Why did the Avs not want to extend Rantanen again?

His agents were asking for more money than the Avs wanted to pay, and they didn't understand how impatient the Avs management were getting with him not signing. Friedman has reported that Rantanen and his camp were totally shocked by the trade, and he had fully expected that eventually he would sign an extension in Colorado.

Inside the Mikko Rantanen sweepstakes and an Avalanche-Stars arms race on a playoff collision course

With a likely Stars-Avalanche first round in the cards, GMs Jill Nill and Chris MacFarland spoke to The Athletic about their deadline moves.

www.nytimes.com

First, failed contract talks with Colorado led to his Jan. 24 trade to Carolina. Colorado’s final offer to Rantanen in January was $11.65 million per year on a max-term deal. It’s important to note here that while Rantanen wasn’t ready to sign that, his camp, led by agent Andy Scott from Octagon, figured they would keep negotiating for months ahead of July 1. Instead, they got blindsided with the trade to Carolina.

As TSN colleague Darren Dreger reported during TradeCentre, the ask from Rantanen’s camp was $13 million Friday morning and the Stars were not backing down from $12 million. Someone had to blink.

In the end, Rantanen is the one who said he would take the Stars’ offer and save the trade.

He left money on the table as far as July 1 is concerned. I do believe some teams would have been willing to pay $14 million on the open market this summer, but Rantanen really wanted to be in Dallas. And given the tax-free state he’s now living in, that $12 million a year is like making $14 million in some other NHL markets.

 

[TCTC]

The Blues score on their first shot. The nightmare continues for Hellebuyck.

 

[BiggE]

Blues are beating the Jets to every loose puck

 

[TCTC]

Lol Hellebuyck is finished man. Another softie. 2-0 already.

 

[BiggE]

Oh my, was that soft. The Jets need to make a switch now