NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CX: That's A Lot.

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Trading for Laughton is a total loser move when Nelson is 10x the player and cost a bit more. I understand the cap and contract differences, but regardless, the difference on the ice between the two is so large, that settling for Laughton is just accepting mediocrity.

Laughton will feel right at home there.
 
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Trading for Laughton is a total loser move when Nelson is 10x the player and cost a bit more. I understand the cap and contract differences, but regardless, the difference on the ice between the two is so large, that settling for Laughton is just accepting mediocrity.

Laughton will feel right at home there.

Nelson cost quite a bit more, if the rankings I'm seeing for Calum Ritchie are correct. TML doesn't have anyone in their system on Ritchie's level; Cowan is generally 10-20 slots behind him, and Grebenkin doesn't even appear on most lists. Also the pick's a year earlier, which most teams not run by doofs with oranges for brains seem to think has value.
 
Why is it the Flyers always get the later 1st? Boston got Toronto’s 2026 1st. The Flyers got the 2027 1st. Is the 2027 draft that much better Flahr already has it circled? It happened with the Giroux trade too, although they traded that 2 year delayed pick to Edmonton for a 2025 one because this is the class to end all classes.

TML doesn't have anyone in their system on Ritchie's level; Cowan is generally 10-20 slots behind him

I’d take Cowan over Ritchie personally. Even if someone wouldn’t, Ritchie isn’t exactly a high ceiling player.
 
Nelson cost quite a bit more, if the rankings I'm seeing for Calum Ritchie are correct. TML doesn't have anyone in their system on Ritchie's level; Cowan is generally 10-20 slots behind him, and Grebenkin doesn't even appear on most lists. Also the pick's a year earlier, which most teams not run by doofs with oranges for brains seem to think has value.
Obviously there's a delta in the returns, but to get the vastly superior player, I think Toronto had the assets to get it done. Cowan and Ritchie are real close and I'd bet a decent amount of teams have Cowan ranked in front.

Not to mention, their best assets were traded for Carlo and he looks like Mike Rathje out there.

Nelson is a bonafide top-6 scorer and Laughton is J.A.G. If I'm trading what Toronto did for Laughton, I'm trading the difference for the much better player.
 
Why is it the Flyers always get the later 1st? Boston got Toronto’s 2026 1st. The Flyers got the 2027 1st. Is the 2027 draft that much better Flahr already has it circled? It happened with the Giroux trade too, although they traded that 2 year delayed pick to Edmonton for a 2025 one because this is the class to end all classes.



I’d take Cowan over Ritchie personally. Even if someone wouldn’t, Ritchie isn’t exactly a high ceiling player.
Giroux wasn’t the priority for Florida. He wasn’t really even a target.
 
Giroux wasn’t the priority for Florida. He wasn’t really even a target.

Wasn’t a target? He was traded there! He had a known 2 team trade list, and they traded Tippett+1st for him. That’s absurd. It was superstar Ben Chiarot who was traded for the other pick 3 days earlier, when the Flyers were waiting for his 1000th game. That trade didn’t magically materialize.

We don’t really have to stretch it to say they have a fetish for trading for future 1sts. “Optionality” and all.
 
Wasn’t a target? He was traded there! He had a known 2 team trade list, and they traded Tippett+1st for him. That’s absurd. It was superstar Ben Chiarot who was traded for the other pick 3 days earlier, when the Flyers were waiting for his 1000th game. That trade didn’t magically materialize.

We don’t really have to stretch it to say they have a fetish for trading for future 1sts. “Optionality” and all.
He had a one-team list best to my knowledge. That was the reporting at the time. Panthers didn’t view him as a need the way they did Chiarot. Giroux also was the one who wanted to get to 1000 games, remember he took the next game off before the trade was done.
 
This is fun but everyone is waiting on your Schaefer scouting report.

Haven’t watched a minute. And feeling good.

The only surprise about Carolina trading for him is that they didn’t draft him.

I wonder if Nerd GM would’ve taken him if he had the position at that point. To be fair, Stankoven also had 6 games that season + u18s, so being high on him *ahem* was more tape than analytics.

Besides Heimosalmi, Morrow was always a 1st round talent and looks right on track. And Koivunen (hey, didn’t he play on a line with Tuomaala at the u18s?) is point/game in the AHL and was used as a Guentzel centerpiece. Still pretty good return. That’s the idea about making a lot of picks with good profiles: misses are okay and eggs are not in one basket. The Flyers are beginning to adopt this philosophy. One day Berglund and Gill will be used to acquire Pastrnak.
 
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