Minnesota Wild General Discussion VI

[djavan]

I don't understand why we'd move Ek from the C position. He is the only bona fide C that we have except for the old dudes. All the rest, such as Coyle, Ganlund, and Foligno are really only C's as a their second position. I sure as hell don't want to mess with Granlund by moving him back to C.

Are you happy with what Coyle has provided so far in his career? Is he best at center or wing?

 

[57special]

Are you happy with what Coyle has provided so far in his career? Is he best at center or wing?

I'm more positive than most about Coyle's play at C, but ideally, he is a RW. I can't forget how good he was together with Nino and Staal two years ago.

I don't think you can find a single person who is happy with what he has done in his career so far, because we have seen glimpses of a Coyle for ten day stretches or during a shootout where he flashes elite, or near elite, offensive skills. Those,matched with his physical skills( good speed, very strong), make us all dream of a 30/30 power forward, but it never seems to materialize. He simply isn't consistent enough.

I would be interested to see how he would do on a line with Ek and Greenway, where he is expected to be the leader of a line for the first time, AND, he would have at least one( Ek), if not two,players that would do as much, if not more of the dirty work that he is accustomed to doing, which would free him up to be more offensive.
That could end up being one hell of a 3rd line.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I was pretty happy with the 58 points.

 

[Wabit]

Are you happy with what Coyle has provided so far in his career? Is he best at center or wing?

I'm happy with Coyle until I'm not. What I'm trying to say is when he plays and is involved in the game I like him; but when he's not into games and becomes completely passive and a perimeter player I don't like him. There just isn't any middle ground in his game, it's either on or off.

He's a (P-FWD/top-6) winger that thinks he's a center; which he is a passable 3C. If he buys in completely to being a winger he could be a force this year.

 

[57special]

I'm happy with Coyle until I'm not. What I'm trying to say is when he plays and is involved in the game I like him; but when he's not into games and becomes completely passive and a perimeter player I don't like him. There just isn't any middle ground in his game, it's either on or off.

He's a (P-FWD/top-6) winger that thinks he's a center; which he is a passable 3C. If he buys in completely to being a winger he could be a force this year.

Well said, but the reality of the long NHL season is that no one brings it for 82 games. What I want from him is 45-55 pts. (depending on usage, i.e. PP, linemates, position) during the regular season, then for him to show up during the playoffs. He is one of those guys who is really useful to have around when the physical play starts, because he won't be bullied.

 

[2Pair]

I'm happy with Coyle until I'm not. What I'm trying to say is when he plays and is involved in the game I like him; but when he's not into games and becomes completely passive and a perimeter player I don't like him. There just isn't any middle ground in his game, it's either on or off.

He's a (P-FWD/top-6) winger that thinks he's a center; which he is a passable 3C. If he buys in completely to being a winger he could be a force this year.

Wrong. He's just as good at center as he is at wing. Coyle will always be a player that's dependant on his linemates.

 

[nstarjim]

What? A wild forward who isn't an all star all all by themselves, and relies on team depth to win

 

[nstarjim]

I'm happy with how Charlie can play his game, but I'm also hopeful he hasn't reached his best game yet. JMO

 

[DANOZ28]

anybody know if tonights game is televised? nhl .com says its on TSN3 can we in mn access that? thx.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

anybody know if tonights game is televised? nhl .com says its on TSN3 can we in mn access that? thx.

nope, can only steam on wild.com in MN

 

[Nsjohnson]

But I don't think I can watch it out here in Washington. FSN areas only...at least I'll be back in MN for the season opener and the game against Vegas. Under unfortunate circumstances, but it's a light in the dark.

 

[Nsjohnson]

If the Wild stay mostly healthy, then I think the season rests on the shoulders of that Greenway line.

We need a big season from them. We know what healthy Parise is. We know what healthy Nino is.

We need Coyle, Greenway, and JEE to perform and at a high level.

 

[57special]

We know what a healthy Parise in his 20's is. We have no clue as to what a healthy Parise at 34 is.

 

[Digitalbooya]

If the Wild stay mostly healthy, then I think the season rests on the shoulders of that Greenway line.

We need a big season from them. We know what healthy Parise is. We know what healthy Nino is.

We need Coyle, Greenway, and JEE to perform and at a high level.

I think the Wild make the playoffs regardless. The third line shouldn’t be the make or break line on this team.

 

[Nsjohnson]

I think the Wild make the playoffs regardless. The third line shouldn’t be the make or break line on this team.

I'm talking about the entire season. From PO seeding, to how far we go (1st round, SCF, etc).

Assuming we make the PO's, that line has to be an x-factor because every team in the PO's has super stars and depth.

 

[2Pair]

I think the Wild make the playoffs regardless. The third line shouldn’t be the make or break line on this team.

I think it's somewhere in the middle. I don't think that they need to be great, but they absolutely can't be as bad as they were last year

 

[Goose312]

I think it's somewhere in the middle. I don't think that they need to be great, but they absolutely can't be as bad as they were last year

Not constantly having between 1 and 5 of their 6 top 9 wingers injured at a time should do wonders for the depth this year.

 

[2Pair]

Not constantly having between 1 and 5 of their 6 top 9 wingers injured at a time should do wonders for the depth this year.

That would definitely make it easier

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think the Wild make the playoffs regardless. The third line shouldn’t be the make or break line on this team.

If they spend most of their time in their own zone and/or can't score, then it could absolutely break the team. Although, if that's the case, then they won't be a line for very long anyway.

 

[Digitalbooya]

 

[2Pair]

Not a fan of keeping Brown over Read.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Not a fan of keeping Brown over Read.

I agree though I don’t think it’ll be long before we see Read up.

 

[Wild11MN]

Seems like it could be an early money move as well. Not sure if that'll come into play as much as years past though.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Seems like it could be an early money move as well. Not sure if that'll come into play as much as years past though.

Read has a smaller cap hit than Brown. Also, we are $1.7m ish away from the cap ceiling with a full roster. Last year we were pushing the ceiling with 21 players on a 23 man roster.

 

[Wild11MN]

Read has a smaller cap hit than Brown. Also, we are $1.7m ish away from the cap ceiling with a full roster. Last year we were pushing the ceiling with 21 players on a 23 man roster.

Read has a 2-way though, so he only makes 200k in the minors.