Minnesota Wild General Discussion 2024-25

He wasn't a needed type of player positionally so I get the frustration but again we haven't seen the entirety of his path.

If we're going to take this angle, I have no issue with the Lambos pick, it's the Peart pick right after that was far more egregious.

Is Lambos a full bust?? I don’t watch Iowa but everyone was high on him. Sucks he hasn’t developed

All tools, no toolbox player. Everything about him screams second pair D in the NHL, except that he can't make it all work together to get there.
 
Well actually to his point, at least we're going to get 2nd round compensatory picks from both Johansson and Stramel. Lambos is just gonna be a career AHLer, not worth anything close to a 2nd.

I dunno about that.
Spend a 1st
~4 years later get a 2nd as a comp for that 1st
2 years later see that 1st turned into a 2nd play in the AHL.

I'll take the bust now now over the 5-6 year wait to see the bust finally play for the organization.

It would be bonus points if they used that 2nd on another college player. Then that player also took the 4 year route and never signed.
 
I dunno about that.
Spend a 1st
~4 years later get a 2nd as a comp for that 1st
2 years later see that 1st turned into a 2nd play in the AHL.

I'll take the bust now now over the 5-6 year wait to see the bust finally play for the organization.

It would be bonus points if they used that 2nd on another college player. Then that player also took the 4 year route and never signed.

I'll always take the second chance at something over the nothing
 
Yet, not a peep about Wallstedt vs Johnston. A potentially catastrophic decision there.

I'm struggling with how much blame to place for those types of picks. On one hand, your scouting department should be better at picking talent than the fans, on the other hand, I don't think anyone had Wyatt Johnston becoming what he is now. If they did, he wouldn't have even been available by pick 20 when we took Wallstedt.

I'm disappointed that our scouts haven't made any great picks like that, but you also can't just judge entirely based on hindsight for the draft.

Like @Saga of the Elk alluded to, it's one thing if you go off the board and reach for a pick that turns out poorly, but they didn't really do that with any of their picks except Stramel. Wallstedt was, aside from being a goalie where people have strong opinions on them in general, the "right" pick there. Johnston certainly wasn't the no brainer.
 
I was hoping he'd be signed for next year. Give him the summer to work on his skating and then a year in the AHL to teach him how to use his size at the pro level.
Watching Perrault suit up and look like an nhl players rub our nose right in the inept managements shit. He was a consensus high draft pick that fell right to us because his only skill was scoring shit tons of goals everywhere he went. Obviously Guerin doesn’t give a single f*** about actually scoring goals so they went so far off the board it wasn’t even in the arena to select a kid who’s only real skill that stood out was he is big.

Now we have another bust of a 1st rd pick when there was a clear consensus top pick right in our hands.

Guerin needs to go and if bracket had anything to do with it then he can go too
 
because his only skill was scoring shit tons of goals everywhere he went.
Now we have another bust of a 1st rd pick when there was a clear consensus top pick right in our hands.

Perreault was far from a clear consensus pick there. He had legitimate concerns in regard skating, perimeter play, and his ability to handle the physical part of the game, among others. He was also the third best player on a line with guys who had just gotten picked 4th and 8th overall, so there were questions about how much was him, and how much was him playing with two much better players.

I can understand the preference for Perreault there, but let's not re-write history here. Besides, he was still second or third fiddle to his teammates in college both years, and he hasn't actually made any impact in the NHL yet.
 
Perreault was far from a clear consensus pick there. He had legitimate concerns in regard skating, perimeter play, and his ability to handle the physical part of the game, among others. He was also the third best player on a line with guys who had just gotten picked 4th and 8th overall, so there were questions about how much was him, and how much was him playing with two much better players.

I can understand the preference for Perreault there, but let's not re-write history here. Besides, he was still second or third fiddle to his teammates in college both years, and he hasn't actually made any impact in the NHL yet.
He was projected as high as 15ish range as I recall and when he was still on the board with our team at the timer it was absolutely the consensus pick.
 
did judd pick lambos & peart or fletchers team? ps i was always a perrault guy. IF stramel was billy's guy he should have traded down 10-15 picks to grab him giving us at least another 2nd minimum
 
Yet, not a peep about Wallstedt vs Johnston. A potentially catastrophic decision there.
Sure, and everybody's own feelings about goalies in the 1st round aside, goalie of the future was just as big of a need as scoring forward.

Also, probably need to remember that Johnston, like most CHL players, played 0 CHL hockey games in 2020-21.
 
He was projected as high as 15ish range as I recall and when he was still on the board with our team at the timer it was absolutely the consensus pick.


He was not. Even the draft analysts while it was happening (before the pick was actually announced) were talking about what the Wild may be looking for, and it wasn't Perreault.
 
did judd pick lambos & peart or fletchers team? ps i was always a perrault guy. IF stramel was billy's guy he should have traded down 10-15 picks to grab him giving us at least another 2nd minimum

Total Judd pick. Fletcher's team was mostly gone due to Fenton dumping them after the FJ pick (I still want to know the whole story with that pick, Russo alluded to some shenanigans at some point).
 
Watching Perrault suit up and look like an nhl players rub our nose right in the inept managements shit. He was a consensus high draft pick that fell right to us because his only skill was scoring shit tons of goals everywhere he went. Obviously Guerin doesn’t give a single f*** about actually scoring goals so they went so far off the board it wasn’t even in the arena to select a kid who’s only real skill that stood out was he is big.

Now we have another bust of a 1st rd pick when there was a clear consensus top pick right in our hands.

Guerin needs to go and if bracket had anything to do with it then he can go too

There was no clear consensus, there never is after the first 5-8 picks each year unless someone is clearly falling. The main scouting reports are all over the place for where they rank prospects after the first few.

I wanted Ritche and had no interest in Perrault at the time of the Stramel pick.

Stramel was a reach (late 1st/early 2nd according to most), but he wasn't a completely off the board pick. He had a great combine so that gave him a bump. I don't see him as a bust, yet. A 3rd liner is what I expect from that draft spot. A 2nd liner is a good draft pick, a 4th liner is a disappointing draft pick, fringe NHLer or worse is a bust.
 
wabit, set aside who you wanted perrault was the highest ranked goal scorer imo. stenberg if C; musty if pwr fwd. ps im sure watching the draft thats what the announcers said.
 
wabit, set aside who you wanted perrault was the highest ranked goal scorer imo. stenberg if C; musty if pwr fwd. ps im sure watching the draft thats what the announcers said.

Perrault just didn't interest me more than some other players. He's a LHS winger that was the 3rd FWD on that USDT line (IIRC). With Rossi, Boldy, Yurov, and Ohgren as other recent 1st round pick LHS wings, along with Kap (ideally staying) the need for LHS FWDs just wasn't anything close to a need.

I wanted a RHS FWD, ideally a center, in the draft and that pushed Ritchie to the front at the time. Bonk was also someone I was considering do the the lack of RD in the system. TBH I didn't see a clear BPA so team needs played into my thinking.

I remember there were some that were pretty high on Edstrom in the predraft talk on here.
 

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