Confirmed Trade: [MIN/CBJ] David Jiricek, 2025 5th round pick for Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks

[BuiumSaveUs]

The amount of cope from CBJ fans about a kid who scored 40 points in 55 games in the AHL as a 19yo defenseman is unreal. He turned 21 a couple days ago. He’s got some refinement in that needs to happen no doubt but you don’t trade for a guy with his traits that often.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This is such an unfounded statement.

Columbus got an excellent haul for a prospect with obvious issues. It is the kind of haul that is paid for an elite prospect so the only way Columbus regrets this is if 1) Jiricek becomes a legitimate star-level #1 defenseman; 2) Hunt doesn't pan out into anything at all; 3) they believe he could have become that star in Columbus organization (which the trade showed they do not believe anymore). If one of those 3 conditions isn't fulfilled, Columbus is absolutely fine with what they did.

And the time frame is so narrow on these things. When red flags appear (like they have with Jiricek) prospects value sinks rapidly. Look at Holtz's situation, 3 seasons after his draft nobody was willing to offer anything of value for him and eventually, he was traded for scraps. Jackets seized the perfect opportunity to get pretty much ALL the value you can reasonably expect back.

And the examples are ample. Holtz is one, Turcotte is another. Zadina. People always expect prospects to turn into something a draft guide told them they would 2-3 years ago but don't realize that if the player isn't progressing at an acceptable rate they are left with nothing once the hype wears off. Yes, there are miracle cases like Nichushkin but sitting and waiting for that miracle to happen is a much bigger risk than getting 5 asset return.

As I said draft picks are great but you actually have to do something with them, they don't matter if you miss.

 

[centipede2233]

I like it for minny for the sole fact Jiricek is a RD. RD top pairing are extremely hard to come by, unless your trading with yzerman

 

[P10p]

Cbj fans coping so hard.

Multiple B level prospect + pick bundles were offered in the trade thread and were absolutely scoffed at by blue jacket fans. They insisted if Rossi, Buium, Wallstedt, and Yurov were off the table then there was no discussion to be had.

Now that the trade happened, suddenly a lage 1st and a b prospect are the haul and trust in Waddel.

 

[thestonedkoala]

The picks are also spread out, which helps Minnesota. They lose only a 1st this year, and a third and fourth next year. More than likely they will recover one or two picks in the next few years.

Minnesota also has an abundance of low floor, low ceiling type guys and most of their defense is signed for 3+ years.

This is the type of trade you do when you are comfortable with the prospects you have coming into the organization AND don't have enough room to develop them.

In the next few years Minnesota will have Buium, Yurov, Heidt, Lorenz, Kumps, Stramel, Ryder all making the jump. So not a huge loss for them.

Again I don't see a big loss for Minnesota or for Columbus at this point. Minnesota got a massive boom or bust prospect they wouldn't have gotten in the last half of the 1st round. Columbus gets a lot of ammo to continue rebuilding their organization.

Edit: Let's do an experiment:

1) What highly skilled, but with warts right-handed defenseman that is fairly young (19-21) is available to trade for the package Minnesota gave?

2) What WOULD have been a fair offer to Jiricek? Mind you, I think Hunt has a 2nd/3rd round grade on him.

3) Let's say Minnesota ends up 4th in their division, regress to the means you know? That means they would get a pick around what Nashville picked last year:

Would you trade Hunt + Surin + Stiga + Marques + Montgomery for Jiricek and Vuolett? Personally, I would.

Hell let's do all draft picks for Minnesota: Stramel + Kumps + Bankier + Masters + Hunt? I'd do that trade in a heart beat.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

The picks are also spread out, which helps Minnesota. They lose only a 1st this year, and a third and fourth next year. More than likely they will recover one or two picks in the next few years.

Minnesota also has an abundance of low floor, low ceiling type guys and most of their defense is signed for 3+ years.

This is the type of trade you do when you are comfortable with the prospects you have coming into the organization AND don't have enough room to develop them.

In the next few years Minnesota will have Buium, Yurov, Heidt, Lorenz, Kumps, Stramel, Ryder all making the jump. So not a huge loss for them.

Again I don't see a big loss for Minnesota or for Columbus at this point. Minnesota got a massive boom or bust prospect they wouldn't have gotten in the last half of the 1st round. Columbus gets a lot of ammo to continue rebuilding their organization.

Edit: Let's do an experiment:

1) What highly skilled, but with warts right-handed defenseman that is fairly young (19-21) is available to trade for the package Minnesota gave?

2) What WOULD have been a fair offer to Jiricek? Mind you, I think Hunt has a 2nd/3rd round grade on him.

3) Let's say Minnesota ends up 4th in their division, regress to the means you know? That means they would get a pick around what Nashville picked last year:

Would you trade Hunt + Surin + Stiga + Marques + Montgomery for Jiricek and Vuolett? Personally, I would.

Hell let's do all draft picks for Minnesota: Stramel + Kumps + Bankier + Masters + Hunt? I'd do that trade in a heart beat.

Good post. Everyone seems to be all or nothing on this. There's nothing wrong with saying Jiricek might not be the player we thought but also it's well worth the risk for Minnesota. They're set up real nice. This is the exact type of team thats comfortable enough to make this move.

 

[BagHead]

The amount of cope from CBJ fans about a kid who scored 40 points in 55 games in the AHL as a 19yo defenseman is unreal. He turned 21 a couple days ago. He’s got some refinement in that needs to happen no doubt but you don’t trade for a guy with his traits that often.

I think that goes both ways, as it usually does in these trade threads. Some Wild fans talk down about the guy before the trade, then praise him once the trade happens. Some Blue Jackets fans do the opposite, or praise their own return. It's all word a game, and a futile one at that because the facts haven't changed:

He's a wonderful AHLer who needs to improve his skating to be a full-time NHLer, and if he does that to a large enough degree, he'll be a wonderful NHLer, too.

 

[ThatGuy22]

I didn’t mean in the next couple of years. Surely the bridges will be utilized if needed. Meant moreso going forward after that. I guess you operate under the assumption of paying who is most worthy anyways and it’ll shake itself out.

I’d venture to guess it will workout fine. And the rising cap will certainly help relieve that. I think a lot of it falls on where Kaprisov signs at cap wise. I’d venture to guess he’ll be upwards of 11m.

Boldy and Faber signing when they did definitely helps.

add 3 or 4 million to that.

 

[Drumman44]

Have to hand it to Minny on this one. Not looking forward for 10 years of Brock Faber and Jirieck on the right side.