Prospect Info: Mikhail Yegorov - pick #49 2024 NHL Draft

[Bad Goalie]

I have Victor Ostman in my keeper league so I tuned in a couple times last season to watch Maine only to see that Boija had usurped him as the starter. Admittedly I couldn't draw too many conclusions from a couple games, but the knee jerk observation is that Boija is a little undersized by NHL standards.

Boija would have to sign a two year ELC, so he/his agent would probably be looking for a team with only 4-5 goalies signed for 2025-26.

NHL: Markstrom (UFA 2026) - Allen (UFA 2025)
AHL: Daws (RFA 2026) - Poulter (RFA 2025)
ECHL: Brennan (RFA 2026)
Europe: Malek (RFA 2026), Louhivaara (unsigned)
NCAA: Yegorov (unsigned)

Maybe depends if Boija is looking to sign now or go back for his junior year. We might have a crowded crease if Malek comes over next season and if Daws isn't slotted as the NHL backup.

Edit: Offhand, I'd be willing to bet a box of donuts that San Jose will look to sign an undrafted goalie even after they acquired Yaroslav Askarov. They only have one goalie on their reserve list as they didn't bother signing their goalie picks from the 2021 and 2022 drafts. If I were an agent for an undrafted goalie, San Jose might be one of the few teams who could offer up an AHL backup spot right off the bat.

I'm under the impression that one of these guys will be in a trade whether in the off season or in the summer. If I was a betting man Daws goes the way of Schmid.

Brennan will be on the final year of his ELC next season ('25-26). he has been in the ECHL this season and last. He has yet to play an AHL game. In fact he has only played 31 games with Adirondack as of today and his 2-yr numbers leave much to be desired.
2023-24:
3.16 GAA/.896 SV%/13GP

2024-25
3.76 GAA/.873 SV%/18GP

Right now he occupies the last spot in the pipeline.

That would probably see Allen retained for another season to back up Marky.

Poulter (24) and Malek (23) in Utica.

Yegorov (20) at BU for yr. 2

Brennan (22) still in Adirondack

If Daws (turns 25 in December, '25) is till around he's either in NJ as Marky's backup or fighting a war with Makek and Poulter (who has already outplayed him in Utica the past 2 seasons).

There would be room for Boija to take out Brennan in Adirondack or he could play his Jr. year in Maine and move into the pipeline in 26-27 when both Marky and Allen are out of time. At that point either Poulter and or Malek step in/who knows how good Yegorov looks at that point/ Boija is definitely at least in Utica and who knows just how good he has become by then. The #1 in NJ is completely unknown at that time. My bet is it isn't Daws.

Only time will sort this out, but the Devils' goalie pipeline is not over filled with can't miss NHL future talent. If I'm Fitz, unless Brennan sets the hockey world on fire, I'd try to trade him before he reaches UFA. If there are no bites I wouldn't qualify him.

So, entering 2026-27 you'd have Poulter, Malek, Yegorov, and Boija and maybe Daws. As of today that's a pool most NHL teams would be happy with. Who's to say Marky isn't still given another season based upon how does in his 2 seasons. That would allow Yegorov and Boija to get another year of profesional hockey on their resume.

I love hypotheticals. You get the impression you can't go wrong. LOL! LOL!

 

[Nocashstyle]

Apologies if this was already posted.

His English is fantastic. I know he was in the USHL last year too. But he has less of an accent than guys like Ovi and Malkin who have been in NA for like 20 years lol

 

[MasterofGrond]

His English is fantastic. I know he was in the USHL last year too. But he has less of an accent than guys like Ovi and Malkin who have been in NA for like 20 years lol

His mother apparently made it a priority for him to learn it. Figured if hockey didn't work out, it would open more opportunities. (also if you want to be an NHL goaltender, which he always has, it doesn't hurt either lol).

Have to imagine there's no better way to really immerse yourself in it and go from "knowing it" to fluency than riding around on a bus in the american midwest with a bunch of f***ing american teenagers, lol.

 

[Guttersniped]

I'm under the impression that one of these guys will be in a trade whether in the off season or in the summer. If I was a betting man Daws goes the way of Schmid.

Brennan will be on the final year of his ELC next season ('25-26). he has been in the ECHL this season and last. He has yet to play an AHL game. In fact he has only played 31 games with Adirondack as of today and his 2-yr numbers leave much to be desired.
2023-24:
3.16 GAA/.896 SV%/13GP

2024-25
3.76 GAA/.873 SV%/18GP

Right now he occupies the last spot in the pipeline.

That would probably see Allen retained for another season to back up Marky.

Poulter (24) and Malek (23) in Utica.

Yegorov (20) at BU for yr. 2

Brennan (22) still in Adirondack

If Daws (turns 25 in December, '25) is till around he's either in NJ as Marky's backup or fighting a war with Makek and Poulter (who has already outplayed him in Utica the past 2 seasons).

There would be room for Boija to take out Brennan in Adirondack or he could play his Jr. year in Maine and move into the pipeline in 26-27 when both Marky and Allen are out of time. At that point either Poulter and or Malek step in/who knows how good Yegorov looks at that point/ Boija is definitely at least in Utica and who knows just how good he has become by then. The #1 in NJ is completely unknown at that time. My bet is it isn't Daws.

Only time will sort this out, but the Devils' goalie pipeline is not over filled with can't miss NHL future talent. If I'm Fitz, unless Brennan sets the hockey world on fire, I'd try to trade him before he reaches UFA. If there are no bites I wouldn't qualify him.

So, entering 2026-27 you'd have Poulter, Malek, Yegorov, and Boija and maybe Daws. As of today that's a pool most NHL teams would be happy with. Who's to say Marky isn't still given another season based upon how does in his 2 seasons. That would allow Yegorov and Boija to get another year of profesional hockey on their resume.

I love hypotheticals. You get the impression you can't go wrong. LOL! LOL!

We’re presumably not going to qualify Brennan and he’ll walk, pretty simple.

Hard to see them not having Daws in the system next year and going with zero guys who’ve played a NHL game in the minors.

 

[My3Sons]

We’re presumably not going to qualify Brennan and he’ll walk, pretty simple.

Hard to see them not having Daws in the system next year and going with zero guys who’ve played a NHL game in the minors.

Unless something changes dramatically down the stretch I expect NJ will try to keep Allen or add another veteran to replace him. I'm skeptical they roll with either Daws or Poulter at the NHL level. My guess is they get one more year in Utica and Malek starts in Adirondack.

 

[Nocashstyle]

We’re presumably not going to qualify Brennan and he’ll walk, pretty simple.

Hard to see them not having Daws in the system next year and going with zero guys who’ve played a NHL game in the minors.

Yeah, at absolute worst, Daws has proved he’s a viable 3rd string call up that can look like a competent enough NHL goaltender most of the time. He probably has next to no trade value and provides a lot more to the organization’s (already thin) goaltending depth than whatever late round pick they would presumably get for him.

They already chose Daws over Schmid this past offseason. It’s difficult to see them moving on from Daws with no one else to confidently fill his role.

 

[Bad Goalie]

We’re presumably not going to qualify Brennan and he’ll walk, pretty simple.

Hard to see them not having Daws in the system next year and going with zero guys who’ve played a NHL game in the minors.

Remember what I said about hypotheticals?

Having watched Daws for his time in Utica I am very skeptical about his chances of becoming an NHL regular.
He still gives up wrap around goals down here. @Bleedred is going on about how he gives them up in NJ as well. He gives up more goals on wrsitshots high out on the boards than any keeper I have ever seen. He has clear sight of the shots and ends up on his knees, sometimes waving his glove and sometimes not, as the puck goes over his shoulder and into the net. He has games where he all of a sudden just suddenly implodes. His best game is when the shots are from in close. The farther away shots come from the more dangerous they seem to be for him. He'll be insane 1 game and the next game he just sucks. He's been at this too long not to have developed a consistent level of competency.

As to going into next year without any NHL experience in the minors, how is that any different than Daws and Schmid both being there at the same time? I have seen teams come into Utica with 2 keepers who have not been in the NHL. It is not a rarity. Many NHL teams have 2 veteran guys they can depend on and they grow their minor leaguers to the point that at least 1 of them can be called up. Oftentimes that called up keeper soon becomes a regular up there and sometimes #1 right away and other times a short ways into the future. That's what they developed him for. You can see in their game that they won't be around in the minors very long.

Terreri and Billington were here together and both made it to NJ.

I had the same thoughts watching Marty here back with the Utica Devils and he didn't have a guy here with NHL experience either. He stepped in with the Devils and never looked back.

Demko was here with another guy not going to be an NHL keeper, but you could see Demko wasn't going to be here very long and he wasn't. He was chosen to move Marky out.

I didn't feel the same way about Schmid and he's gone in spite of a flash of excellence.

I don't feel that way about Daws either. I don't think he has shown he's definitely an NHL goalie in spite of having played a few games there with different performance levels. I certainly could be wrong, but he isn't tipping the scales with me now.

I am leaning towards the belief that the goalies who will be with the current Devils core on their best runs for the cup are not there yet. It could very well be Malek and Yegorov. We just don't know. Keepers are extremely unpredictable and all of a sudden there he is. Sometimes he has been developing for awhile. Other times he just explodes upon the scene. The devils will need that guy if they are going to win the cup again and we just don't know if he is in the pipeline or not. We can SPECULATE our brains out, but he will have to show up!

 

[StevenToddIves]

I know goalies aren't really your thing and they're definitely one of the trickier positions to predict but between Yegorov and Malek, they seem to have some high end goalie prospects. A far cry from the Ken Appleby, Gilles Senn types. What are your thoughts?

With goalies, I'm really a layman. I'm not attuned to the nuance like I am with forwards and defensemen. But I can tell you that this is a big, extremely athletic kid with lots of poise and intelligence. This is certainly foundational to becoming a good NHL goaltender. Beyond that, you're probably better off asking @evnted or @Guadana who have better instincts projecting netminders than myself.

 

[Guadana]

So many Hockey East goalies are already earmarked for the NHL: we drafted Yegorov last year, while Jacob Fowler of BC was drafted by the Canadians in 2023 and Phil Svedbâck of Providence by the Bruins in 2021.

Albin Boija of Maine is not yet drafted and Interesting to me (as a Black Bear fan). He's Swedish and 21 (I think but maybe 22) and is dominating hockey east right at the moment, lifting his team to number 5 nationally last weekend. As with the Russians there of course are now and have been a number of fine Swedish goalies in the NHL (Lundqvist, Ullmark and our own Markstrom come to mind).

Plus Boija has the Maine pedigree. An unusual number of Maine goalies have succeeded in the NHL:
as Jimmy Howard (15 years, 543 games), Ben Bishop (12 years 413 games), Garth Snow (13 years, 368 games) and Mike Dunham (12 years, 394 games).

Of course I can’t forget to mention Jeremy Swayman right now.

I think that's quite impressive for a single college program.

I'd be very interested in what some of the posters here who watch a lot of prospects, as @StevenToddIves and @Guadana about think of Boija's prospects at this point. Worth a draft pick for someone in my eyes, I don't think he will go unclaimed in this year's draft. No team can have too much goaltending in the pipeline in today's NHL.

I have nothing to think about him. Im not the goalie guy, mostly I see athletism, reaction, positioning and thats all. For me its hard to evaluate goalies. At least much harder than forwards and especially defensemen. And I think goalies are build on the characters, more than any others. I saw Russian goalies who were better than some actual NHL goalies but they cant crack NHL or even be regular KHLers sometimes, because they just not ready. And Im not focusing on goalies from another world at all because when Im watching games Im trying to track players Im watching for. Sometimes I can catch some moments but again - with goalies we need to watch a lot more. Because sometimes goals or dangerous chances are on the defense shoulders, sometimes goalies can make beautiful saves again and again but they are making it because they are bad at positioning and still very flexable and fast to work against juniors(but it will never work against adults).
I would like to know about some pro or home scout who is good enough to find 4 right goalies in a year.

 

[Guttersniped]

Remember what I said about hypotheticals?

Having watched Daws for his time in Utica I am very skeptical about his chances of becoming an NHL regular.
He still gives up wrap around goals down here. @Bleedred is going on about how he gives them up in NJ as well. He gives up more goals on wrsitshots high out on the boards than any keeper I have ever seen. He has clear sight of the shots and ends up on his knees, sometimes waving his glove and sometimes not, as the puck goes over his shoulder and into the net. He has games where he all of a sudden just suddenly implodes. His best game is when the shots are from in close. The farther away shots come from the more dangerous they seem to be for him. He'll be insane 1 game and the next game he just sucks. He's been at this too long not to have developed a consistent level of competency.

As to going into next year without any NHL experience in the minors, how is that any different than Daws and Schmid both being there at the same time? I have seen teams come into Utica with 2 keepers who have not been in the NHL. It is not a rarity. Many NHL teams have 2 veteran guys they can depend on and they grow their minor leaguers to the point that at least 1 of them can be called up. Oftentimes that called up keeper soon becomes a regular up there and sometimes #1 right away and other times a short ways into the future. That's what they developed him for. You can see in their game that they won't be around in the minors very long.

Terreri and Billington were here together and both made it to NJ.

I had the same thoughts watching Marty here back with the Utica Devils and he didn't have a guy here with NHL experience either. He stepped in with the Devils and never looked back.

Demko was here with another guy not going to be an NHL keeper, but you could see Demko wasn't going to be here very long and he wasn't. He was chosen to move Marky out.

I didn't feel the same way about Schmid and he's gone in spite of a flash of excellence.

I don't feel that way about Daws either. I don't think he has shown he's definitely an NHL goalie in spite of having played a few games there with different performance levels. I certainly could be wrong, but he isn't tipping the scales with me now.

I am leaning towards the belief that the goalies who will be with the current Devils core on their best runs for the cup are not there yet. It could very well be Malek and Yegorov. We just don't know. Keepers are extremely unpredictable and all of a sudden there he is. Sometimes he has been developing for awhile. Other times he just explodes upon the scene. The devils will need that guy if they are going to win the cup again and we just don't know if he is in the pipeline or not. We can SPECULATE our brains out, but he will have to show up!

“As to going into next year without any NHL experience in the minors, how is that any different than Daws and Schmid both being there at the same time?”

2020-21 was the biggest goaltending shit show in Devils history so I’m happy to not repeat that.*

Daws has a good amount of NHL experience and he’ll still be waiver exempt next season. He’ll be useful to have next season as depth, his future is secondary after that.

Honestly the only issue I see is Daws is on a one way deal next season, and we’re cheap about AHL salary, but I assume we’ll do it for goalie depth.

We have zero idea what we’re getting in Malek. The NHL team has never played Poulter in any of his call-ups. Neither are 3Gs we should be comfortable with, it’s that simple.

*EDIT: Forgot that in 2020-21 we didn’t go with just Daws & Schmid in the AHL, we signed Wedgewood to be our 3rd. He started in the NHL due to injuries and then we lost him on waivers.

 

[Bleedred]

Remember what I said about hypotheticals?

Having watched Daws for his time in Utica I am very skeptical about his chances of becoming an NHL regular.
He still gives up wrap around goals down here. @Bleedred is going on about how he gives them up in NJ as well. He gives up more goals on wrsitshots high out on the boards than any keeper I have ever seen. He has clear sight of the shots and ends up on his knees, sometimes waving his glove and sometimes not, as the puck goes over his shoulder and into the net. He has games where he all of a sudden just suddenly implodes. His best game is when the shots are from in close. The farther away shots come from the more dangerous they seem to be for him. He'll be insane 1 game and the next game he just sucks. He's been at this too long not to have developed a consistent level of competency.

As to going into next year without any NHL experience in the minors, how is that any different than Daws and Schmid both being there at the same time? I have seen teams come into Utica with 2 keepers who have not been in the NHL. It is not a rarity. Many NHL teams have 2 veteran guys they can depend on and they grow their minor leaguers to the point that at least 1 of them can be called up. Oftentimes that called up keeper soon becomes a regular up there and sometimes #1 right away and other times a short ways into the future. That's what they developed him for. You can see in their game that they won't be around in the minors very long.

Terreri and Billington were here together and both made it to NJ.

I had the same thoughts watching Marty here back with the Utica Devils and he didn't have a guy here with NHL experience either. He stepped in with the Devils and never looked back.

Demko was here with another guy not going to be an NHL keeper, but you could see Demko wasn't going to be here very long and he wasn't. He was chosen to move Marky out.

I didn't feel the same way about Schmid and he's gone in spite of a flash of excellence.

I don't feel that way about Daws either. I don't think he has shown he's definitely an NHL goalie in spite of having played a few games there with different performance levels. I certainly could be wrong, but he isn't tipping the scales with me now.

I am leaning towards the belief that the goalies who will be with the current Devils core on their best runs for the cup are not there yet. It could very well be Malek and Yegorov. We just don't know. Keepers are extremely unpredictable and all of a sudden there he is. Sometimes he has been developing for awhile. Other times he just explodes upon the scene. The devils will need that guy if they are going to win the cup again and we just don't know if he is in the pipeline or not. We can SPECULATE our brains out, but he will have to show up!

I honestly wonder how many wraparound goals happen in the AHL in current times?

Since I started counting this month, I've only seen two of them in like 66 games or whatever I said. Out of several hundred goals scored. And it was Rickard Rakell (I think that's who it was?) on Daws and Arthur Kaliyev on Merzlikins.

And when I say wraparound, I'm talking when a guy skates around the back of the net and beats the goalie back to the post to sneak a shot in on the first (not rebound/second attempt) shot. Not some end board bounce where a guy puts it in from the side of the net or a guy passes cross crease to a guy standing at the back side of the net to put it in or a pinball goal, etc. I'm talking a clean, simple, wraparound goal on a first shot attempt.

 

[evnted]

With goalies, I'm really a layman. I'm not attuned to the nuance like I am with forwards and defensemen. But I can tell you that this is a big, extremely athletic kid with lots of poise and intelligence. This is certainly foundational to becoming a good NHL goaltender. Beyond that, you're probably better off asking @evnted or @Guadana who have better instincts projecting netminders than myself.

@Billdo gonna get all 3 of us punting this question but i dont know if i really have a confident answer either lol watching goalies and being able to comment on their game isnt too bad to me, but i find it extremely hard to truly predict their progression rates. ill talk in the scope of yegorov for a sec

if you go back to my big draft post on him, focusing only on his issues, i think a number of them are still true today: glove side being problematic, trouble swallowing first attempts, quirks to his extensions/how he judges angles etc. but not everything is. his puck tracking (specifically through traffic) looks better than i thought i saw in omaha. i dont think hes nearly as slippery/scrambly in the crease either, in fact i think hes actually been quite steady. that was one thing that concerned me about his midseason jump to the ncaa, the raw tools are fanatastic, we all love to rave about them, but i worried about a lack of structure and whether or not it would be exposed by better/faster/more seasoned players. so far, that doesnt seem to be the case at all

was i just wrong? was omaha overexposing him? are some early pointers from the BU staff starting to click? is this a hot streak? im guessing all are true to a degree, but it also feels like goalies can just...randomly progress at times. like with a forward prospect, for example, they might suck as a goal scorer in their draft year, but you can look at things like their shooting mechanics, where they position themselves off puck, how they read/attack defenses on puck, how they anticipate play, etc. and predict that theyll eventually progress to some extent. with something like puck tracking through traffic, though, i dont personally feel i have a grasp on how to anticipate whether or not that will take a step, it feels like you do it well or you dont

its too early to call now, but there is a side of me thats warming up to the idea of yegorov being a better prospect than he looked in omaha, and that a chunk of the tracking complaints/movement issues/overall descriptions of being raw were more related to him trying to overcompensate for how bad his defense was than anything truly intrinsic to the player. i mean, its not like hes being sheltered now, BU's defense has still had its fair share of issues, just not to the same degree. i even started my report saying to factor this in! but, potentially, it mightve been to an even greater extent than i figured

going back to the original question, in my time of doing draft stuff (~15yrs), yegorov is the most excited ive been for a devils goalie prospect, which probably sounds hyperbolic until you realize blackwood and like daws have been his biggest competitors over that span lol (im gonna be real, i wasnt doing year by year updates on like 6th round goalie picks from the late 2010s). i definitely did like those two, blackwood specifically, but theres something about yegorov's mental fortitude that has me extra hyped. hes just so unbothered by everything. usually it feels like its a give and take between that and elite athleticism, but maybe not for him

malek is wait and see to me. i do like him, i think hes very cerebral and positionally sound, and obviously the league success is excellent, but theres a side of me that thinks...hes not the quickest, hes not the most toolsy/flexible, he presents more compact than his size would indicate, you know this isnt someone who i think is really gonna make saves as play breaks down, so ultimately, is this a prospect whos benefitted by playing in a lesser offensive league like liiga, or is he more of a legitimate, scalable netminder? i dont know, and im looking forward to his utica stint telling us the answer

 

[Bad Goalie]

I honestly wonder how many wraparound goals happen in the AHL in current times?

Since I started counting this month, I've only seen two of them in like 66 games or whatever I said. Out of several hundred goals scored. And it was Rickard Rakell (I think that's who it was?) on Daws and Arthur Kaliyev on Merzlikins.

And when I say wraparound, I'm talking when a guy skates around the back of the net and beats the goalie back to the post to sneak a shot in on the first (not rebound/second attempt) shot. Not some end board bounce where a guy puts it in from the side of the net or a guy passes cross crease to a guy standing at the back side of the net to put it in or a pinball goal, etc. I'm talking a clean, simple, wraparound goal on a first shot attempt.

All of the type of goals you mention are not wraparounds other than the one you demonstratively call wraparounds. That type of goal is a wraparound. We have seen That goal scored on Daws too many times to be acceptable in the time he has been here. He is too slow getting across and in a couple instances he didn't even try. He simply accepted there was no way he could do it.

 

[Guttersniped]

I honestly wonder how many wraparound goals happen in the AHL in current times?

Since I started counting this month, I've only seen two of them in like 66 games or whatever I said. Out of several hundred goals scored. And it was Rickard Rakell (I think that's who it was?) on Daws and Arthur Kaliyev on Merzlikins.

And when I say wraparound, I'm talking when a guy skates around the back of the net and beats the goalie back to the post to sneak a shot in on the first (not rebound/second attempt) shot. Not some end board bounce where a guy puts it in from the side of the net or a guy passes cross crease to a guy standing at the back side of the net to put it in or a pinball goal, etc. I'm talking a clean, simple, wraparound goal on a first shot attempt.

Because I love wasting time…

The NHL tracks shots by type.

Side Note: I haven’t looked at these stats in a while because I didn’t even notice they started tracking 4 new shot types starting in 2022-23. Poke (poked in), Cradle (cradle shots), Legs (between the legs) and Bat (batted in). Fun!

Anyhoo,
214 total skaters have Wraparound Shots (out of 830 skaters with SOG)
1 player w/ 8
3 players w/ 5
7 players w/ 4
21 players w/ 3
57 players w/ 2
125 players w/ 1

Spoiler: Skaters with +3 Wraparound Goal attempts

I get a kick out of Tampa’s Eyssimont having 8 unsuccessful wrap around attempts. One day it’ll work buddy!

26 players have scored 1 Wraparound Goal this season, 24 on goalies.

Spoiler: Players with Wraparound Goals

And because I’m a psycho I looked up the goals. (You’re Welcome.)

Spoiler: All 26 2024-25 Wraparound Goals

Tage Thompson BUF
Oct 16 2024 vs PIT 5-6 L
Tristan Jarry

Scott Laughton PHI
Oct 17 2024 vs SEA 4-6 L
Philipp Grubauer

Justin Barron MTL
Oct 18 2024 vs LAK 1-4 L
David Rittich

Noel Acciari PIT
Oct 22 2024 vs CGY 4-3 SO L
Dustin Wolf

Michael Rasmussen DET
Oct 24 2024 vs NJD 5-3 W
Empty Net

Bryan Rust PIT
Oct 26 2024 vs VAN 3-4 L
Kevin Lankinen

Mackie Samoskevich FLA
Oct 26 2024 vs NYI 6-3 W
Semyon Varlamov

Nikita Kucherov TBL
Nov 7 2024 vs PHI 1-2 SO L
Ivan Fedotov

Sam Reinhart FLA
Nov 7 2024 vs NSH 6-2 W
Scott Wedgewood

Vladislav Namestnikov WPG
Nov 9 2024 vs DAL 4-1 W
Jake Oettinger

Dylan Strome WSH
Nov 18 2024 vs UTA 6-2 W
Connor Ingram

Corey Perry EDM
Nov 21 2024 vs MIN 3-5 L
Marc-Andre Fleury

Jesperi Kotkaniemi CAR
Nov 11 2024 vs NYR 4-3 W
Igor Shesterkin

Charlie McAvoy BOS
Dec 1 2024 vs MTL 6-3
Cayden Primeau

Warren Foegele LAK
Dec 4 2024 vs DAL 3-2 W
Jake Oettinger

Bret Howden VGK
Dec 14 2024 vs EDM 3-6 L
Stuart Skinner

David Pastrnak BOS
Dec 14 2024 vs VAN 5-1
Thatcher Demko

Brock Faber MIN
Dec 27 2024 vs DAL 3-2 OT W
Jake Oettinger

Anders Lee NYI
Dec 28 2024 vs PIT 6-3 W
Empty Net

Zach Benson BUF
Jan 2 2025 vs COL 5-6 OT L
Scott Wedgewood

Nicolas Hague VGK
Jan 2 2025 vs PHI 5-2 W
Aleksei Kolosov

Alex Iafallo WPG
Jan 2 2025 vs ANA 3-4 OT L
John Gibson

Filip Forsberg NSH
Jan 23 2025 vs SJS 6-5 W
Yaroslav Askarov

Andrei Kuzmenko CGY
Jan 25 2025 vs MIN 5-4 W
Marc-Andre Fleury

Rickard Rakell PIT
Feb 4 2025 vs NJD 2-3 SO L
Nico Daws

Arthur Kaliyev NYR
Feb 8 2025 vs CBJ 4-3 W
Elvis Merzlikins

Goalies:
Jake Oettinger 3 (lol)
Marc-Andre Fleury 2
Scott Wedgewood 2
Yaroslav Askarov 1
Nico Daws 1
Thatcher Demko 1
Ivan Fedotov 1
John Gibson 1
Philipp Grubauer 1
Connor Ingram 1
Tristan Jarry 1
Aleksei Kolosov 1
Kevin Lankinen 1
Elvis Merzlikins 1
Cayden Primeau 1
David Rittich 1
Igor Shesterkin 1
Stuart Skinner 1
Semyon Varlamov 1
Dustin Wolf 1

 

[Bleedred]

Because I love wasting time…

The NHL tracks shots by type.

Side Note: I haven’t looked at these stats in a while because I didn’t even notice they started tracking 4 new shot types starting in 2022-23. Poke (poked in), Cradle (cradle shots), Legs (between the legs) and Bat (batted in). Fun!

Anyhoo,
214 total skaters have Wraparound Shots (out of 830 skaters with SOG)
1 player w/ 8
3 players w/ 5
7 players w/ 4
21 players w/ 3
57 players w/ 2
125 players w/ 1

Spoiler: Skaters with +1 Wraparound Goal attempts

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I get a kick out of Tampa’s Eyssimont having 8 unsuccessful wrap around attempts. One day it’ll work buddy!

26 players have scored 1 Wraparound Goal this season, 24 on goalies.

Spoiler: Players with Wraparound Goals

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And because I’m a psycho I looked up the goals. (You’re Welcome.)

Spoiler: All 26 2024-25 Wraparound Goals

Tage Thompson BUF
Oct 16 2024 vs PIT 5-6 L
Tristan Jarry

Scott Laughton PHI
Oct 17 2024 vs SEA 4-6 L
Philipp Grubauer

Justin Barron MTL
Oct 18 2024 vs LAK 1-4 L
David Rittich

Noel Acciari PIT
Oct 22 2024 vs CGY 4-3 SO L
Dustin Wolf

Michael Rasmussen DET
Oct 24 2024 vs NJD 5-3 W
Empty Net

Bryan Rust PIT
Oct 26 2024 vs VAN 3-4 L
Kevin Lankinen

Mackie Samoskevich FLA
Oct 26 2024 vs NYI 6-3 W
Semyon Varlamov

Nikita Kucherov TBL
Nov 7 2024 vs PHI 1-2 SO L
Ivan Fedotov

Sam Reinhart FLA
Nov 7 2024 vs NSH 6-2 W
Scott Wedgewood

Vladislav Namestnikov WPG
Nov 9 2024 vs DAL 4-1 W
Jake Oettinger

Dylan Strome WSH
Nov 18 2024 vs UTA 6-2 W
Connor Ingram

Corey Perry EDM
Nov 21 2024 vs MIN 3-5 L
Marc-Andre Fleury

Jesperi Kotkaniemi CAR
Nov 11 2024 vs NYR 4-3 W
Igor Shesterkin

Charlie McAvoy BOS
Dec 1 2024 vs MTL 6-3
Cayden Primeau

Warren Foegele LAK
Dec 4 2024 vs DAL 3-2 W
Jake Oettinger

Bret Howden VGK
Dec 14 2024 vs EDM 3-6 L
Stuart Skinner

David Pastrnak BOS
Dec 14 2024 vs VAN 5-1
Thatcher Demko

Brock Faber MIN
Dec 27 2024 vs DAL 3-2 OT W
Jake Oettinger

Anders Lee NYI
Dec 28 2024 vs PIT 6-3 W
Empty Net

Zach Benson BUF
Jan 2 2025 vs COL 5-6 OT L
Scott Wedgewood

Nicolas Hague VGK
Jan 2 2025 vs PHI 5-2 W
Aleksei Kolosov

Alex Iafallo WPG
Jan 2 2025 vs ANA 3-4 OT L
John Gibson

Filip Forsberg NSH
Jan 23 2025 vs SJS 6-5 W
Yaroslav Askarov

Andrei Kuzmenko CGY
Jan 25 2025 vs MIN 5-4 W
Marc-Andre Fleury

Rickard Rakell PIT
Feb 4 2025 vs NJD 2-3 SO L
Nico Daws

Arthur Kaliyev NYR
Feb 8 2025 vs CBJ 4-3 W
Elvis Merzlikins

Goalies:
Jake Oettinger 3 (lol)
Marc-Andre Fleury 2
Scott Wedgewood 2
Yaroslav Askarov 1
Nico Daws 1
Thatcher Demko 1
Ivan Fedotov 1
John Gibson 1
Philipp Grubauer 1
Connor Ingram 1
Tristan Jarry 1
Aleksei Kolosov 1
Kevin Lankinen 1
Elvis Merzlikins 1
Cayden Primeau 1
David Rittich 1
Igor Shesterkin 1
Stuart Skinner 1
Semyon Varlamov 1
Dustin Wolf 1

Wow! Nice work! The only more specific thing I'd like is if we could see these by month? So that would be 22 between Ocrober and January? Now I do think a small percentage of these are probably the types of wraparounds where it went off a skate or a goalie gets run into on a netmouth scramble, bounce off a board and put it at the side of the net, etc.

But I can confirm the 1 each on Daws and Merzlikins happened last week.

I can remember a couple of these. I remember one of Wedgewood's a little bit. I DEFINITELY remember Grubauer's because I remember laughing at him and wondering why he hadn't been waived yet. I think the Askarov one may have come after he turned the puck over to begin with? Maybe not. I kind of remember at least one of Oettinger's, but I wouldn't have guessed 3 against him.

Anyway, I think I counted in my calendar that NHL games have been played for 19 weeks this season. Some weeks like the first one there was the only the two games between us and Buffalo and obviously Christmas break was a shortened week. I didn't count this week at all.

So that averages out to about 1.26 wraparound scored per week this year?

 

[Guttersniped]

In honor of those wraparound stats, more random wraparound stats.

All Devils Wraparound goals since 2009-10.

Henrique with 5 on 14 shots! Urbom appearance!!

Spoiler: NJD Wraparound goals since 2009-10

This is all NHL players with more than 3 Wraparound Goals since 2009-10.

Henrique with 7 on 23 shots is very Henrique. Kane got 2 more than Rico and he only needed 87 more shots than him to do it.

453 players have scored Wraparound Goals since 2009-10:
1 player has 9 Wraparound Goals
3 players have 6
3 players have 6
9 players have 5
23 players have 4
43 players have 3
92 players have 2
279 players have 1

Spoiler: NHL Wraparound Goals since 2009-10

All Devils skaters with more than 2 Wraparound Shot attempts.

The stat leaders for Clarksaround Attempted is no surprise lol.

Spoiler: NJD Wraparound Shots since 2009-10

These are the NHL leaders in Wraparound attempts since 2009-10.

Kane took his 110 in 930 GP while Ryan Smith had 87 in only 350 GP.

Also Parise grinded 1 wraparound out of 62 shots lol.

Spoiler: NHL Wraparound Shot Attempts since 2009-10

The Devils gave up 22 Wraparound Goals since 2009-10.

Spoiler: Wraparound Goals vs NJD since 2009-10

And again, because I’m a psycho, I looked up all these goals too.

The Goalies:
Martin Brodeur 4
Cory Schneider 4
Mackenzie Blackwood 3
Johan Hedberg 3
Nico Daws 2
Vitek Vanecek 2
Jon Gilles 1
Keith Kinkaid 1
Akira Schmid 1
Empty Net 1

Spoiler: All Wraparound Goals vs NJD since 2009-10

Mike Richards PHI
Oct 3 2009 vs NJD 5-2 W
Martin Brodeur

Tim Kennedy BUF
Oct 28 2009 vs NJD 4-1 W
Martin Brodeur

Vincent Lecavalier TBL
Dec 4 2009 vs NJD 3-2 L
Martin Brodeur

Patrick Marleau SJS
Oct 27 2010 vs NJD 5-2 W
Martin Brodeur (Joe Thorton hattrick)

Lars Eller MTL
Dec 2 2010 vs NJD 5-1 W
Johan Hedberg (1 of 2 Mike McKenna’s games but Hedberg gave up 2 goals in 3 shots in first 1:38 before being pulled)

Vernon Fiddler DAL
Oct 29 2011 vs NJD 3-1 W
Johan Hedberg

Eric Fehr WSH
Feb 23 2013 vs NJD 5-1 W
Johan Hedberg (Ovechkin hattrick)

Kyle Palmieri ANA
Dec 20 2013 vs NJD 3-2 OT W
Cory Schneider

Darren Helm DET
Dec 31 2014 vs NJD 3-1 W
Cory Schneider

Craig Smith NSH
Feb 14 2015 vs NJD 3-1 W
Cory Schneider

Torrey Mitchell MTL
Dec 8 2016 vs NJD 5-2 W
Cory Schneider

Casey Cizikas NYI
Feb 19 2017 vs NJD 6-2 W
Keith Kinkaid

Radek Faksa DAL
Dec 10 2019 vs NJD 2-0 W
Mackenzie Blackwood

Zach Smith CHI
Dec 23 2019 vs NJD 1-7 L
Mackenzie Blackwood

Colton Sceviour PIT
Apr 11 2021 vs NJD 5-2 W
Mackenzie Blackwood (Jake Guentzel hattrick, also Sceviour got 3 of his 5 goals in 46 GP vs us that season lol)

Evander Kane EDM
Mar 19 2022 vs NJD 6-3 W
Jon Gillies

Brock Nelson NYI
Dec 9 2022 vs NJD 6-4 W
Vitek Vanecek

Mason Shaw MIN
Mar 21 2023 vs NJD 2-1 OT W
Vitek Vanecek

Adam Henrique ANA
Dec 17 2023 vs NJD 5-1 W
Akira Schmid (Henrique hattrick)

Conor Garland VAN
Jan 6 2024 vs NJD 6-4 W
Nico Daws

Michael Rasmussen DET
Oct 24 2024 vs NJD 5-3 W
Empty Net

Rickard Rakell PIT
Feb 4 2025 vs NJD 2-3 SO L
Nico Daws

 

[Bad Goalie]

In honor of those wraparound stats, more random wraparound stats.

All Devils Wraparound goals since 2009-10.

Henrique with 5 on 14 shots! Urbom appearance!!

Spoiler: NJD Wraparound goals since 2009-10

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This is all NHL players with more than 3 Wraparound Goals since 2009-10.

Henrique with 7 on 23 shots is very Henrique. Kane got 2 more than Rico and he only needed 87 more shots than him to do it.

453 players have scored Wraparound Goals since 2009-10:
1 player has 9 Wraparound Goals
3 players have 6
3 players have 6
9 players have 5
23 players have 4
43 players have 3
92 players have 2
279 players have 1

Spoiler: NHL Wraparound Goals since 2009-10

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All Devils skaters with more than 2 Wraparound Shot attempts.

The stat leaders for Clarksaround Attempted is no surprise lol.

Spoiler: NJD Wraparound Shots since 2009-10

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These are the NHL leaders in Wraparound attempts since 2009-10.

Kane took his 110 in 930 GP while Ryan Smith had 87 in only 350 GP.

Also Parise grinded 1 wraparound out of 62 shots lol.

Spoiler: NHL Wraparound Shot Attempts since 2009-10

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The Devils gave up 22 Wraparound Goals since 2009-10.

Spoiler: Wraparound Goals vs NJD since 2009-10

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And again, because I’m a psycho, I looked up all these goals too.

The Goalies:
Martin Brodeur 4
Cory Schneider 4
Mackenzie Blackwood 3
Johan Hedberg 3
Nico Daws 2
Vitek Vanecek 2
Jon Gilles 1
Keith Kinkaid 1
Akira Schmid 1
Empty Net 1

Spoiler: All Wraparound Goals vs NJD since 2009-10

Mike Richards PHI
Oct 3 2009 vs NJD 5-2 W
Martin Brodeur

Tim Kennedy BUF
Oct 28 2009 vs NJD 4-1 W
Martin Brodeur

Vincent Lecavalier TBL
Dec 4 2009 vs NJD 3-2 L
Martin Brodeur

Patrick Marleau SJS
Oct 27 2010 vs NJD 5-2 W
Martin Brodeur (Joe Thorton hattrick)

Lars Eller MTL
Dec 2 2010 vs NJD 5-1 W
Johan Hedberg (1 of 2 Mike McKenna’s games but Hedberg gave up 2 goals in 3 shots in first 1:38 before being pulled)

Vernon Fiddler DAL
Oct 29 2011 vs NJD 3-1 W
Johan Hedberg

Eric Fehr WSH
Feb 23 2013 vs NJD 5-1 W
Johan Hedberg (Ovechkin hattrick)

Kyle Palmieri ANA
Dec 20 2013 vs NJD 3-2 OT W
Cory Schneider

Darren Helm DET
Dec 31 2014 vs NJD 3-1 W
Cory Schneider

Craig Smith NSH
Feb 14 2015 vs NJD 3-1 W
Cory Schneider

Torrey Mitchell MTL
Dec 8 2016 vs NJD 5-2 W
Cory Schneider

Casey Cizikas NYI
Feb 19 2017 vs NJD 6-2 W
Keith Kinkaid

Radek Faksa DAL
Dec 10 2019 vs NJD 2-0 W
Mackenzie Blackwood

Zach Smith CHI
Dec 23 2019 vs NJD 1-7 L
Mackenzie Blackwood

Colton Sceviour PIT
Apr 11 2021 vs NJD 5-2 W
Mackenzie Blackwood (Jake Guentzel hattrick, also Sceviour got 3 of his 5 goals in 46 GP vs us that season lol)

Evander Kane EDM
Mar 19 2022 vs NJD 6-3 W
Jon Gillies

Brock Nelson NYI
Dec 9 2022 vs NJD 6-4 W
Vitek Vanecek

Mason Shaw MIN
Mar 21 2023 vs NJD 2-1 OT W
Vitek Vanecek

Adam Henrique ANA
Dec 17 2023 vs NJD 5-1 W
Akira Schmid (Henrique hattrick)

Conor Garland VAN
Jan 6 2024 vs NJD 6-4 W
Nico Daws

Michael Rasmussen DET
Oct 24 2024 vs NJD 5-3 W
Empty Net

Rickard Rakell PIT
Feb 4 2025 vs NJD 2-3 SO L
Nico Daws

WILD!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are absolutely wild. I can go on and on sometimes but this deep dive research and posting is out of the realm of reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it.

 

[NjDevsRR]

OH MY

Incredible research @Guttersniped One Dano six pack awarded

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Daws just wants to beat Marty trying to get ahead of him wherever he can...

 

[StevenToddIves]

@Billdo gonna get all 3 of us punting this question but i dont know if i really have a confident answer either lol watching goalies and being able to comment on their game isnt too bad to me, but i find it extremely hard to truly predict their progression rates. ill talk in the scope of yegorov for a sec

if you go back to my big draft post on him, focusing only on his issues, i think a number of them are still true today: glove side being problematic, trouble swallowing first attempts, quirks to his extensions/how he judges angles etc. but not everything is. his puck tracking (specifically through traffic) looks better than i thought i saw in omaha. i dont think hes nearly as slippery/scrambly in the crease either, in fact i think hes actually been quite steady. that was one thing that concerned me about his midseason jump to the ncaa, the raw tools are fanatastic, we all love to rave about them, but i worried about a lack of structure and whether or not it would be exposed by better/faster/more seasoned players. so far, that doesnt seem to be the case at all

was i just wrong? was omaha overexposing him? are some early pointers from the BU staff starting to click? is this a hot streak? im guessing all are true to a degree, but it also feels like goalies can just...randomly progress at times. like with a forward prospect, for example, they might suck as a goal scorer in their draft year, but you can look at things like their shooting mechanics, where they position themselves off puck, how they read/attack defenses on puck, how they anticipate play, etc. and predict that theyll eventually progress to some extent. with something like puck tracking through traffic, though, i dont personally feel i have a grasp on how to anticipate whether or not that will take a step, it feels like you do it well or you dont

its too early to call now, but there is a side of me thats warming up to the idea of yegorov being a better prospect than he looked in omaha, and that a chunk of the tracking complaints/movement issues/overall descriptions of being raw were more related to him trying to overcompensate for how bad his defense was than anything truly intrinsic to the player. i mean, its not like hes being sheltered now, BU's defense has still had its fair share of issues, just not to the same degree. i even started my report saying to factor this in! but, potentially, it mightve been to an even greater extent than i figured

going back to the original question, in my time of doing draft stuff (~15yrs), yegorov is the most excited ive been for a devils goalie prospect, which probably sounds hyperbolic until you realize blackwood and like daws have been his biggest competitors over that span lol (im gonna be real, i wasnt doing year by year updates on like 6th round goalie picks from the late 2010s). i definitely did like those two, blackwood specifically, but theres something about yegorov's mental fortitude that has me extra hyped. hes just so unbothered by everything. usually it feels like its a give and take between that and elite athleticism, but maybe not for him

malek is wait and see to me. i do like him, i think hes very cerebral and positionally sound, and obviously the league success is excellent, but theres a side of me that thinks...hes not the quickest, hes not the most toolsy/flexible, he presents more compact than his size would indicate, you know this isnt someone who i think is really gonna make saves as play breaks down, so ultimately, is this a prospect whos benefitted by playing in a lesser offensive league like liiga, or is he more of a legitimate, scalable netminder? i dont know, and im looking forward to his utica stint telling us the answer

Devils HFBoards Prospects Writers: "Your best resource for projecting forwards and D-men, but we suck at goalies!"

If anyone thinks of a better motto, let us know.

 

[Nubmer6]

Devils HFBoards Prospects Writers: "Your best resource for projecting forwards and D-men, but we suck at goalies!"

If anyone thinks of a better motto, let us know.

StevenToddIves is just a juxtaposer when it comes to goalies.

 

[Bleedred]

I feel very validated now that my claim that ''There aren't many wraparound goals scored in the NHL. I don't see many at all'' has been proven.

Apologies to Mikhail Yegorov for hijacking his thread and using it to prove this theory!

 

[Bone Density]

From a BU Twitter page. The big watermark kind of ruins it lol.

 

[evnted]

didnt get a chance to watch, but in an effort to be fair, i think its worth pointing out that he got yanked tonight

quick impression of some of the goals he let up: definitely didnt get good D support on the first couple, but he looked a little off on them. played tight to the body, wasnt reacting to plays/dropping down to the ice quickly enough, lacked that crispness/snappiness to his movement, etc.

it happens, and hes historically been quite good at mentally resetting/responding after a tough game, so im looking forward to a solid performance next game