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Mike Milbury has finally left the Islanders (some lineage included)

MattMartin

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With the departure of Franz Nielsen finally we are done with MM. Just to revisit how bad he was at GM not only look at his trade history but the drafting history as well. I really doubt that NO GM in sports history was that BAD!

Every trade he made:
http://www.paperstreetbrigade.com/blog/?p=13451


His draft history from 95-05:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007085.html


His last roster:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000522006.html


All of his 1st round picks:
1995 2OA Wade Redden
1996 3OA J.P. Dumont
1997 4OA Roberto Luongo
1997 5OA Eric Brewer
1998 9OA Mike Rupp
1999 5OA Tim Connolly
1999 8OA Taylor Pyatt
1999 10OA Branislav Mezei
1999 28OA Kristian Kudroc
2000 1OA Rick DiPietro
2000 5OA Raffi Torres
2001 None
2002 22OA Sean Bergenheim
*2003 15OA Robert Nilsson* (see below)
2004 16OA Petteri Nokelainen
2005 15OA Ryan O'Marra

2003 may have been the greatest draft ever and he chose Nilsson over Parise and it's not like it was MMQB narrative. Everyone in the free world knew the Islanders should have taken Parise that moment. A little history behind it...

http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2012/7/26/3185728/zach-parise-mike-milbury-lost-files

His full 2003 draft:
15OA Robert Nilsson 252 NHL games
48OA Dmitri Chernykh 0 NHL games
53OA Evgeny Tunik 0 NHL games
58OA Jeremy Colliton 57 NHL games
120OA Stefan Blaho 0 NHL games
182OA Bruno Gervais 418 NHL games
212OA Denis Rehak 0 NHL games
238OA Cody Blanshan 0 NHL games
246OA Igor Volkov 0 NHL games
Grand total of 727 NHL games and everyone is way out of the NHL by now.

The 2003 "what could have been draft"
17OA Zach Parise 2 picks later
49OA Shea Weber 1 pick later
54OA B.J. Crombeen 1 pick later
61OA or 62OA Maxim Lapierre and David Backes 3rd and 4th pick later
121OA Paul Bissonnette 1 pick later
214OA Kyle Brodziak 2 picks later
239OA Tobias Enstrom 1 pick later
250OA Shane O'Brien 4 picks later


Again I know everyone knows the obvious trade but drafting and the other trades were just as bad especially missing out on so many great players in 2003.

MMM is truly the greatest failure in pro sports history (as a GM) and I dare anyone to deny that with a straight face!
 
14 picks in the 1999 draft. 4 in the 1st round, 3 in the top 10. Unfortunately for the Islanders, it was one of the worst NHL drafts ever. The Isles did pick guys that ended up as the 7th and 11th leading scorers from that class. 3 guys that were picked in the 7th round, Zetterberg, Vrbata, and Erat, are in the top 6 in scoring. Three 7th rounders, that's crazy. The Isles had 3 of the top 22 players in games played.

Normally that would be a pretty damn good draft for a GM.
 
To add a little more.

In that 2003 draft here are players picked after the 1st round that could have played more games alone than the total of games played by all his picks. Some of those players...

Loui Eriksson 725 GP
Patrice Bergeron 820 GP
Shea Weber 763 GP
David Backes 727 GP
Kyle Quincey 495 GP
Lee Stempniak 790 GP
Marc Methot 511 GP
Joe Pavelski 725 GP
Kyle Brodziak 697 GP
Dustin Byfuglien 678 GP
Matt Moulson 555 GP

The "prospects" that were left with us when he departed:
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=463798

Luciano Aquino (C)
Sean Bergenheim (C/LW)
Jeremy Colliton (RW
Blake Comeau (RW
Cole Jarrett (F)
Matt Koalska (C)
Masi Marjamaki (RW)
Robert Nilsson (RW)
Petteri Nokelainen (C)
Ryan O'Marra (C)
Justin Papineau (C)
Jason Pitton (RW
Steve Regier (LW)
Wyatt Smith (C )
Chris Campoli (D)
Ryan Caldwell (D)
Paul Flache (D)
Dustin Kohn (D)
Mike Jarmuth (D)
Vince Macri (D)
Jaroslav Mrazek (D)
Jody Robinson (D)
Nicholas Tuzzolino (D)
Frederic Cloutier (G)
Wade Dubielewicz (G)
Chris Madden (G)
Tuomas Tarkki (G)
 
Congrats!

Now get out of Brooklyn, get a new arena, a goalie not made of glass, a bonified #1 D and you're all set!
 
KingsFan7824 said:
14 picks in the 1999 draft. 4 in the 1st round, 3 in the top 10. Unfortunately for the Islanders, it was one of the worst NHL drafts ever. The Isles did pick guys that ended up as the 7th and 11th leading scorers from that class. 3 guys that were picked in the 7th round, Zetterberg, Vrbata, and Erat, are in the top 6 in scoring. Three 7th rounders, that's crazy. The Isles had 3 of the top 22 players in games played.

Normally that would be a pretty damn good draft for a GM.
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Can't and wont deny any of what you said, however, you don't have to look past the 2000 and 2003 fiasco's to see how far that put us back.
 
Ive said before but there needs to be a doc of the Milbury and the Isles tenure. Maybe when he's old and doesn't give a rats @$$ anymore or just dead someone will make that doc but it needs to happen. Like an ESPN 30 for 30 or something.
It'll be cool too because at that point we might actually get some real answers to the just absurdity of his vision and like what happened to all the players involved.
 
in Millburys defense (did I actually just type that) wasn't he like most of the islanders GMs under super strict spending constraints by ownership ? Wasn't this a lot of what got good players shipped out etc ? perhaps I don't recall correctly but I always thought Millbury got the bad press for basically handling the team the way he was given his marching papers.

the above drafted players list is actually decent. just many of the good players got shipped out.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
14 picks in the 1999 draft. 4 in the 1st round, 3 in the top 10. Unfortunately for the Islanders, it was one of the worst NHL drafts ever. The Isles did pick guys that ended up as the 7th and 11th leading scorers from that class. 3 guys that were picked in the 7th round, Zetterberg, Vrbata, and Erat, are in the top 6 in scoring. Three 7th rounders, that's crazy. The Isles had 3 of the top 22 players in games played.

Normally that would be a pretty damn good draft for a GM.
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Maybe other GMs were smart enough to trade those picks :dunno:
 
Mr Tadakichi said:
How did Millbury even last that long?
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He did whatever the owners wanted, and they wanted the lowest payroll possible. All because they were in it for the land and not the team. The best thing that ever happened to the Islanders aside from the dynasty and drafting Tavares was moving to Brooklyn.
 
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He's one of the suckiest GM I've ever seen, with the likes of Rejean Houle, Greg McTavish and Jim Benning.
 
I certainly am not going to make a case for him as he was truly terrible but the Depietro signing was not on his watch, Snow was a very green GM by the time and that signing was Charles Wang all the way.
 
Milbury was pretty bad overall but I always felt like he had his moments, always teetering on the thin line between greatness and insanity before usually landing in some incompetent grey area.

The Schneider/Clark for Luongo/Jonsson plus deal was a pure fleecing.

Getting Berard out of Ottawa for Redden was fantastic at the time, but he ruined it by trading Berard to Toronto for a washed up Potvin. Berard's injury also kind of derailed what would have been a great career.

He set up the Isles really well in 1999 with four first round picks, but unfortunately it was one of the worst drafts ever.

He walked into the 2000 draft with some great players to be had in Gaborik and Heatley, but somehow walked away with DiPietro and gave away Luongo.

His return on the Palffy trade was excellent, acquired a young potential franchise center in Olli Jokinen, but then gave him away in the Luongo deal for trash.

He drafted Chara.

He gave away Chara and the Spezza pick to accelerate his already half decade long rebuild and got Yashin back.

Gave Bertuzzi and McCabe away for Trevor Linden...
 
That was a miserable return on the 2003 Draft. Nilsson washed out of the KHL after leaving the NHL. The Russian guys aren't KHL players. Colliton is 31 and has already been a coach in Sweden for 3+ years.
 
NYRKindms said:
in Millburys defense (did I actually just type that) wasn't he like most of the islanders GMs under super strict spending constraints by ownership ? Wasn't this a lot of what got good players shipped out etc ? perhaps I don't recall correctly but I always thought Millbury got the bad press for basically handling the team the way he was given his marching papers.

the above drafted players list is actually decent. just many of the good players got shipped out.
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Even if he was under cap constraints (positive he was) how the heck did he miss so bad on the drafts?
 
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