Player Discussion Mike Matheson

[HespelerGreenFlash]

Please someone fire Matheson into the sun

 

[Gravity]

One of his worst games as a Hab last night.

Not just the brutal play on the Michkov goal but he made several dumb decisions and looked uninterested/casual at times. I don't know what the f*** his problem was last night.

Well he said hold my beer and one upped last night tonight.

 

[26Mats]

Please someone fire Matheson into the sun

Well Hughes was recently interviewed and said they would soon have to make decisions on which dmen to keep. He included Matheson in the conversation, saying they would have to make a decision on whether to extend him or not.

I take that as good news that they are going to analyze his play. His play should make the decision for them. That and it's not MSL's decision, thankfully.

 

[Saundies]

This was literally in Basu's article about him like a week ago:

Almost exactly two years ago, on March 16, 2023, Matheson was preparing to face the Florida Panthers in Sunrise, Fla., and was reminiscing about his time there and how his last game with the organization was spent in a suit and tie as a healthy scratch.

“I don’t look back at my time here in Florida and go like, ‘I got screwed.’ I didn’t,” Matheson said prior to that game. “I didn’t play well. And that was all on me. I was a risky player that wasn’t defending very well. As a coach, that’s not a good person to have on the ice.”

The worst part is: he's the same dude and plays the exact same way. The problem is we are throwing him out there for 25+ minutes a night and expecting different results.

And people want to re-sign this guy to 6+ million a year. Gross.

 

[KevSkillz4]

He is strong.

Very very strong.

Very very strongly BAAAAAD!

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Looks like he's been overplayed and burned out. He was never this bad

 

[tnq]

If he is good everything, he is an elite and noone trade anbelite defender for Petry, lol

 

[Archijerej]

I'm a strong supporter of Matheson, but already before this season I've expressed the opinion that his future usefulness to this team will largely depend on how Hutson adapts to the NHL.

With Hutson having a historic season and Engstrom in the fold, I don't think we should extend Mike into his 30s.

We will need a top 4 RHD for next season, though.

 

[Mats NAslund]

Welcome to Montreal!!

He play really good hockey since he is a Penguins Pittsburgh, happy to have him.

LMFAO, you have to be kidding me right? He's atrocious defensively and can only carry the puck in a straight line. He had one good "LUCKY" offensive year where every puck he touched turned into a point. He's a turnover machine and for whatever reason this bone head coach loves him!!!!!

Here are his career stats to prove last year was a fluke, even in a career high points year he managed to be a -24. Previous to last year his best year was 34 points!
He's a defensive liability end of story causes more goals against than he generates offence.



Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS +/- PIM EVG PPG SHG GWG EV PP SH SOG SPCT TSA TOI ATOI FOW FOL FO% BLK HIT TAKE GIVE Awards
2015-16 21 FLA NHL D 3 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 8 52:36 17:32 0 0 1 1 1 1
2016-17 22 FLA NHL D 81 7 10 17 -5 36 7 0 0 0 8 1 1 179 3.9 314 1705:17 21:03 1 0 100.0 118 69 48 65
2017-18 23 FLA NHL D 81 10 17 27 -1 61 9 1 0 2 13 3 1 167 6.0 320 1728:19 21:20 0 0 137 53 68 92
2018-19 24 FLA NHL D 75 8 19 27 -24 44 8 0 0 2 11 6 2 129 6.2 235 1673:51 22:19 0 1 0.0 132 63 64 135
2019-20 25 FLA NHL D 59 8 12 20 -1 14 7 1 0 1 11 1 0 104 7.7 216 1064:06 18:02 0 0 53 44 41 54
2020-21 26 PIT NHL D 44 5 11 16 9 28 5 0 0 1 10 1 0 86 5.8 155 820:06 18:38 0 0 40 41 22 23
2021-22 27 PIT NHL D 74 11 20 31 12 33 11 0 0 5 18 2 0 140 7.9 295 1391:08 18:48 0 0 81 97 43 43
2022-23 28 MTL NHL D 48 8 26 34 7 33 8 0 0 2 15 9 2 126 6.3 252 1173:41 24:27 0 0 80 53 42 73
2023-24 29 MTL NHL D 82 11 51 62 -24 58 4 5 2 0 28 23 0 187 5.9 403 2095:20 25:33 0 0 186 61 49 76 ASnhl-16
2024-25 30 MTL NHL D 70 6 23 29 -8 47 5 1 0 1 13 9 1 134 4.5 328 1746:11 24:57 0 0 142 54 42 95
NHL (10 Yrs) 617 74 189 263 -34 356 64 8 2 14 127 55 7 1256 5.9 2526 13450:35 21:48 1 1 50.0 970 536 420 657
NHL 82 Game Avg 82 10 25 35 -5 47 9 1 0 2 17 7 1 167 5.9 336 1788 21:48 0 0 50.0 129 71 56 87

 

[Deebs]

Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS +/- PIM EVG PPG SHG GWG EV PP SH SOG SPCT TSA TOI ATOI FOW FOL FO% BLK HIT TAKE GIVE Awards
2015-16 21 FLA NHL D 3 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 8 52:36 17:32 0 0 1 1 1 1
2016-17 22 FLA NHL D 81 7 10 17 -5 36 7 0 0 0 8 1 1 179 3.9 314 1705:17 21:03 1 0 100.0 118 69 48 65
2017-18 23 FLA NHL D 81 10 17 27 -1 61 9 1 0 2 13 3 1 167 6.0 320 1728:19 21:20 0 0 137 53 68 92
2018-19 24 FLA NHL D 75 8 19 27 -24 44 8 0 0 2 11 6 2 129 6.2 235 1673:51 22:19 0 1 0.0 132 63 64 135
2019-20 25 FLA NHL D 59 8 12 20 -1 14 7 1 0 1 11 1 0 104 7.7 216 1064:06 18:02 0 0 53 44 41 54
2020-21 26 PIT NHL D 44 5 11 16 9 28 5 0 0 1 10 1 0 86 5.8 155 820:06 18:38 0 0 40 41 22 23
2021-22 27 PIT NHL D 74 11 20 31 12 33 11 0 0 5 18 2 0 140 7.9 295 1391:08 18:48 0 0 81 97 43 43
2022-23 28 MTL NHL D 48 8 26 34 7 33 8 0 0 2 15 9 2 126 6.3 252 1173:41 24:27 0 0 80 53 42 73
2023-24 29 MTL NHL D 82 11 51 62 -24 58 4 5 2 0 28 23 0 187 5.9 403 2095:20 25:33 0 0 186 61 49 76 ASnhl-16
2024-25 30 MTL NHL D 70 6 23 29 -8 47 5 1 0 1 13 9 1 134 4.5 328 1746:11 24:57 0 0 142 54 42 95
NHL (10 Yrs) 617 74 189 263 -34 356 64 8 2 14 127 55 7 1256 5.9 2526 13450:35 21:48 1 1 50.0 970 536 420 657
NHL 82 Game Avg 82 10 25 35 -5 47 9 1 0 2 17 7 1 167 5.9 336 1788 21:48 0 0 50.0 129 71 56 87

Am I reading the Matrix???

 

[Mats NAslund]

Am I reading the Matrix???

Yes, the Iam shit Mike Matheson Matrix

 

[DAChampion]

LMFAO, you have to be kidding me right? He's atrocious defensively and can only carry the puck in a straight line. He had one good "LUCKY" offensive year where every puck he touched turned into a point. He's a turnover machine and for whatever reason this bone head coach loves him!!!!!

Here are his career stats to prove last year was a fluke, even in a career high points year he managed to be a -24. Previous to last year his best year was 34 points!
He's a defensive liability end of story causes more goals against than he generates offence.



Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS +/- PIM EVG PPG SHG GWG EV PP SH SOG SPCT TSA TOI ATOI FOW FOL FO% BLK HIT TAKE GIVE Awards
2015-16 21 FLA NHL D 3 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 8 52:36 17:32 0 0 1 1 1 1
2016-17 22 FLA NHL D 81 7 10 17 -5 36 7 0 0 0 8 1 1 179 3.9 314 1705:17 21:03 1 0 100.0 118 69 48 65
2017-18 23 FLA NHL D 81 10 17 27 -1 61 9 1 0 2 13 3 1 167 6.0 320 1728:19 21:20 0 0 137 53 68 92
2018-19 24 FLA NHL D 75 8 19 27 -24 44 8 0 0 2 11 6 2 129 6.2 235 1673:51 22:19 0 1 0.0 132 63 64 135
2019-20 25 FLA NHL D 59 8 12 20 -1 14 7 1 0 1 11 1 0 104 7.7 216 1064:06 18:02 0 0 53 44 41 54
2020-21 26 PIT NHL D 44 5 11 16 9 28 5 0 0 1 10 1 0 86 5.8 155 820:06 18:38 0 0 40 41 22 23
2021-22 27 PIT NHL D 74 11 20 31 12 33 11 0 0 5 18 2 0 140 7.9 295 1391:08 18:48 0 0 81 97 43 43
2022-23 28 MTL NHL D 48 8 26 34 7 33 8 0 0 2 15 9 2 126 6.3 252 1173:41 24:27 0 0 80 53 42 73
2023-24 29 MTL NHL D 82 11 51 62 -24 58 4 5 2 0 28 23 0 187 5.9 403 2095:20 25:33 0 0 186 61 49 76 ASnhl-16
2024-25 30 MTL NHL D 70 6 23 29 -8 47 5 1 0 1 13 9 1 134 4.5 328 1746:11 24:57 0 0 142 54 42 95
NHL (10 Yrs) 617 74 189 263 -34 356 64 8 2 14 127 55 7 1256 5.9 2526 13450:35 21:48 1 1 50.0 970 536 420 657
NHL 82 Game Avg 82 10 25 35 -5 47 9 1 0 2 17 7 1 167 5.9 336 1788 21:48 0 0 50.0 129 71 56 87

I think that you responded to a two year old post.

 

[Mats NAslund]

I think that you responded to a two year old post.

Matheson has been shit way longer than that so I could responding to a post from his rookie season, tired of watching this guy shit the bed every night and still get big minutes

 

[DAChampion]

Matheson has been shit way longer than that so I could responding to a post from his rookie season, tired of watching this guy shit the bed every night and still get big minutes

I get it, but i think it's considered rude to respond to very old posts.

 

[Mats NAslund]

I'm a strong supporter of Matheson, but already before this season I've expressed the opinion that his future usefulness to this team will largely depend on how Hutson adapts to the NHL.

With Hutson having a historic season and Engstrom in the fold, I don't think we should extend Mike into his 30s.

We will need a top 4 RHD for next season, though.

Get off the editables man, Matheson is ridiculously bad! Has nothing to do with the emergence of Hutson. Matheson had a career year, almost doubling his point totals from any other year while still managing a -24.

 

[Mats NAslund]

I get it, but i think it's considered rude to respond to very old posts.

oh lol wasn't my intention, it popped up and I replied to it.

 

[Mrb1p]

The level of happiness I experience when Ive yet again, been the precursor to this Matheson hate.

When I say something just listen lads.
(Josh Brook clause)

 

[KevSkillz4]

LMFAO, you have to be kidding me right? He's atrocious defensively and can only carry the puck in a straight line. He had one good "LUCKY" offensive year where every puck he touched turned into a point. He's a turnover machine and for whatever reason this bone head coach loves him!!!!!

It's the day of the trade. I'm always happy when a new guy come to my favorite team.

But since we have him, I always said, TRADE HIM. I hate his game. I hate everything about Matheson.

You are not the only one.

 

[Habs]

Kent Hughes would be the worst stock broker in the world, he has no idea when to sell.

 

[26Mats]

Kent Hughes would be the worst stock broker in the world, he has no idea when to sell.

Kulak for a 2nd
Petry for Matheson
Barron for Carrier
Toffoli for 1st and Heineman
Chiarot for a 1st, then trading up to get Hage

There have been some good ones. But yes he hasn't batted 1.000.

Would have been painful short term to sell at the deadline. But the player we could draft may haveen worth the short term pain.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

You know a QC player sucks when Montreal media is at the "be nice, he has a family" stage of reporting.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I still think you can trade him for something substantial.

Hughes could've traded him last summer when his value peaked, but our youngsters weren't ready.

Thinking his TOI might get some dumbass GM to overpay this summer.

I've been on the Matheson hatred and negative energy bandwagon for years.

 

[Habs]

Kulak for a 2nd
Petry for Matheson
Barron for Carrier
Toffoli for 1st and Heineman
Chiarot for a 1st, then trading up to get Hage

There have been some good ones. But yes he hasn't batted 1.000.

Would have been painful short term to sell at the deadline. But the player we could draft may haveen worth the short term pain.

It's the no-brainers that make me mad. Savard and MM . Savard has lost all his value, and for what? The more MM players, the more his value plummets. Honestly Barron lost all his value after his first year here, he should have been dumped at the draft a while ago.

Yes the Kulak trade was nice, so was TT and Chiarot

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

The time to trade him was last year, you're looking at a Petry return at this point (who we also waited way too long to trade).

Feels like a pretty basic rule of thumb that if a guy is having a career year at 30 or older and won't be a core piece when you're competing, you should trade him when his value is highest but what do I know.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

He's playing the same average ice time as defenders like Seider, Josi, Heiskanen. He's 9th in the league for ice time by D. He's not in that tier of player obviously but this is what happens when bad teams have to put guys in positions that are above their paygrade.

Other GMs aren't as dumb as the fans, he still has trade value. He's been terrible lately but he's playing vs other top lines which he shouldn't be and playing way too many minutes. If he get's put into a team where he can play sheltered minutes on a 2nd pair he will look better. He's only 31 and still an elite skater.

He has no place on this team going forward though. Now that Lane has proven himself to be an elite puck moving defenseman at the NHL level, you can move on from Matheson and surround Lane with big stay at home guys. Still, Matheson played valuable mintutes the past 3 seasons for the team and played in way over his head for his entire stay here. Playing number 1 minutes on a rebuilding team for a guy making under 5 million dollars, I don't know what people were expecting.