Value of: Mike Green to NYR
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pld459666
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Why move him? They are not going anywhere WITH him. Why not get an (a few) assets for him that could help retool that roster
Also, hasn't posted 50 in 7 years.
StephenPeat
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It's pretty conspicuous that you didn't list a single asset the Rangers should trade for Green, meaning you're just fishing for proposals that are likely overvalued (in your estimation) so you can bash them. Looking at the Rangers prospects (perhaps I shouldn't, not much enticing there) and operating under the premise I laid out above, I'm guessing you arent planning on offering any young players. Green is also signed for another year so the value wouldn't likely be too far off of the Yandle value (not the same given Greens age and lower production recently but not too far off, especially if you're envisioning a deadline deal). Do you really want to do that again, you don't have the assets. The price would obviously start with a 1st and if Girardi is included would skyrocket immediately.
See why you don't want to do this?
It would take SERIOUS over payment to get him. He is 1 of our 2 D-Man that is actually a legit Top 4 D-Man. He is also the only D-Man on our team that can transition the puck with success and also not only our best D-Man but also right handed so unless we have something similar coming back it really would not make sense. Due to our new rink being built, Ken Holland is set on trying to make the playoffs (even though it most likely won't happen) and to try and accomplish that we need Green.
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Yandle and Green produce at a very similar pace actually.... and as for the "older" factor, Green is one year older. One.
pld459666
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I'm not big on bashing proposals.
I specifically stated I didn't know the Wings needs which why I didn't list names.
I'd prefer not to part with a 1st but if the rest of the deal makes sense I'm open to it.
pld459666
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Fair points.
I guess it would be a lot closer to the deadline and the Wings would have to be longshots for the pos to consider moving Green.
Makes sense.
pld459666
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The age thing isn't a factor other than both players being 2 years older than when Yandle was dealt. A 28 year old player will have a bit more value than a 31 year old player carries all things else even.
Holland is going to go down kicking and screaming trying to make the playoffs this year and ownership wants a quality team opening up the arena next year. Green is the teams number 1 Dman so it will likely be hard for the team to give him up.
Now neither of those are likely at all and they might decide to move a couple guys, but I doubt Green would go cheap. Probably something similar to Yandle.
Now neither of those are likely at all and they might decide to move a couple guys, but I doubt Green would go cheap. Probably something similar to Yandle.
One Winged Angel
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That is something I thought of as well. Edmonton would still have to add, but it is a good base.
FireBird71
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Don see Holland dong anything now but I feel they keep losing then maybe in the new year...but I'd trade a few guts and start the rebuild
Edm 1st
Reinhart (b rated prospect)
Fayne (cap dump)
Green
Det 4th (conditional)
Condition is if Edm misses playoffs.
Klefbom - Larsson
Sekera - Russell
Nurse - Green
Green should help solve our pp
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StephenPeat
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If you're not at least willing to part with a 1st (and the Rangers don't have a 2017 2nd) there's no deal at all that makes sense for Detroit. What exactly would you offer, I'm curious.
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You need to wait a while longer for the Wings to be no hopers for the playoffs (which they should be).
Come deadline day, if we're 10 points out of a playoff spot I would imagine he will be highly sought after. Veteran D are always at a premium, especially ones who can move the puck. He only has 1 more season after this at $5M, so contract is very tradeable too.
However, as someone mentioned above, Holland is likely to go down kicking and screaming, rather than accept that he's built a terrible team and start burning it down.
Come deadline day, if we're 10 points out of a playoff spot I would imagine he will be highly sought after. Veteran D are always at a premium, especially ones who can move the puck. He only has 1 more season after this at $5M, so contract is very tradeable too.
However, as someone mentioned above, Holland is likely to go down kicking and screaming, rather than accept that he's built a terrible team and start burning it down.
At the deadline he would easily fetch a first and a prospect with little to no salary returned as that's how TDL deals work
End of story.
End of story.
One Winged Angel
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Sets a bottom price that would have to be topped. Would be more teams involved for Green's services.
One Winged Angel
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Ok but I just said I didn't want to give up any assets for Mike Green, so I still don't get why you're replying to me...
Not trying to be a dick, just legitimately confused.
If the Wings are givin up Green, then they're packing it in. Green at $1-2M retained for a mid-to-late 1st.
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Klein
Fast
NYR 1st 2017 or 2018
For
Green
Axel Holmstrom
Cap works according to capfriendly.
Rangers get their PP QB. Also get a B level prospect who's about ready for the NHL.
Wings get a good RHD, young winger, and a 1st.
Best I could get with the cap.
Fast
NYR 1st 2017 or 2018
For
Green
Axel Holmstrom
Cap works according to capfriendly.
Rangers get their PP QB. Also get a B level prospect who's about ready for the NHL.
Wings get a good RHD, young winger, and a 1st.
Best I could get with the cap.
