Mike Bossy vs Pavel Bure who's the better goal scorer all time?

[overpass]

Bossy gets overrated due to playing entirely in the high scoring era. Most of his 50 goals seasons are more like 40-something goal seasons in an average NHL scoring environment with approximately 3 GPG per team.

When you review the preponderance of the data, it's pretty obvious that Bossy doesn't belong in the conversations he's routinely put into.

Bossy also played in the four line era, on a four line team, for one of the few coaches who expected his stars to play two ways. It was well recognized while Bossy was playing that he could have put up bigger numbers if Al Arbour had given him the chance.

 

[MadLuke]

4 line scoring is important here, gpg adjustement could loose a bit, by my method attempt back in the days, without surprise, you end up too close to call between the 2, which does not help much, but

fullName	count(season)	totalGamesPlayed	TotalAdjGoals	averageSeason	adjGPG
Maurice Richard	18​	978​	968​	53.8​	0.99​
Alex Ovechkin	16​	1197​	1146​	71.6​	0.96​
Mario Lemieux	17​	915​	820​	48.2​	0.9​
Pavel Bure	12​	702​	627​	52.3​	0.89​
Bobby Hull	16​	1063​	932​	58.2​	0.88​
Steven Stamkos	13​	841​	705​	54.2​	0.84​
Mike Bossy	10​	752​	625​	62.5​	0.83​
Brett Hull	19​	1269​	983​	51.7​	0.77​
Gordie Howe	26​	1767​	1338​	51.5​	0.76​
Bernie Geoffrion	16​	883​	675​	42.2​	0.76​

For all the other name on that list, there need some post prime or pre-prime consideration, but both Bure-Bossy exploded out of the block and retired early.

Bure did not play enough in the playoff to build a case either way, doing well enough when he did to say maybe he has Bossy resume.... but in those case Bossy actually did it., so in term of all-time ranking that not an big issue to put him ahead, who was better at scoring goal, that a different question.

 

[67 others]

Bossy gets overrated due to playing entirely in the high scoring era. Most of his 50 goals seasons are more like 40-something goal seasons in an average NHL scoring environment with approximately 3 GPG per team.

When you review the preponderance of the data, it's pretty obvious that Bossy doesn't belong in the conversations he's routinely put into.

Lol. So what do you rate Bossy's 69, 68, 64, 61 and 60 goal seasons as?

1992-93 was like the highest scoring season of all time on average, so I guess we deduct that 60 goal season from Bure. Leaving him with 4 seasons in his career where he scored over 34 goals lol

 

[Sentinel]

He won two rockets two years before he retired. He also only played like 39 games in his last season.

Bossy was clearly superior as a player, scorer, everything.

Those two years made all the difference.

Bossy was more consistent. Bure had a higher ceiling.

 

[authentic]

Those teams were lousy because Bure was playing 30 minutes a night without putting any effort into defense, or team play.



That's pretty impressive that Bure managed to exit the first round one more time than Bossy had 17 goals.

He wasn’t playing 30 minutes a night. May have only happened on very rare occasions.

 

[Gorskyontario]

Bossy was more consistent. Bure had a higher ceiling.

If that's true why was Bossy more consistent, and peaked higher?

He wasn’t playing 30 minutes a night. May have only happened on very rare occasions.

Pretty sure they had him cherry picking for 30 mins a night on those panthers teams. If you want to look it up I would be interested.

 

[authentic]

If that's true why was Bossy more consistent, and peaked higher?



Pretty sure they had him cherry picking for 30 mins a night on those panthers teams. If you want to look it up I would be interested.

I already have, his average ice time was around 25 minutes. You can check it out on nhl.com

Bure’s peak was a little better in goal scoring I think but it was very close either way.

 

[Gorskyontario]

I already have, his average ice time was around 25 minutes. You can check it out on nhl.com

Bure’s peak was a little better in goal scoring I think but it was very close either way.

That's still super high ice time for a forward, thanks for looking it up.

 

[jj cale]

Neither of these is even in the Top5.

Ovechkin / Gretzky
Hull Sr / Esposito / Howe / Richard
Hull Jr / Lemieux / Bossy
Bure
Kurri / McDavid / Selanne

In terms of pure goal scoring ability no name mentioned here is as good as Lemieux.

Gretzky, O.V, Bossy..........you name him, none of them.