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Captain Monglobster said:
If he was producing on the PP I would be able to swallow his soft play. But hes not. I know hes a top player in the league, but his turnover in game 4 and throwing his head back in game 5 sum up how he approaches the post season. He will not engage enough in board battles and get to the dirty areas.
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Every single player throws their head back when elbowed in the face. And nowadays, a good % of them fall to the ice as well. So I completely give Zib a pass for throwing his head back. It's a completely normal reaction to something hitting your face or quickly coming close to your face. It's the disengaging from the play afterwards that doesn't get a pass. Play til the godamn whistle.
 
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Just saw Pettersson getting trashed too for being a playoff ghost. Turned out he had a bad knee.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Many it seems are based on 4 consecutive games by hfboard experts.
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Well, for NYR fans, it was an 82 game season of calling him out.
 
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Rangerfan4life90 said:
Did you see me make excuses in that post?
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You said Fox at 100% would tilt this series

Well what if all the Florida top guys were also 100%? Would Fox still tilt the series?

Your statement is ridiculous at this time of the season

Janvonpobben said:
Didnt he had 2 points in 2 goals last night? Jesus christ
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This just shows how few watch the games and only the box score
 
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Sdevils42 said:
I mean watch Fox compared to Forsling either who is extremely underrated. Guy is a master in his own zone, positioning, active stick while not delivering bone crushing hits. He's scored big goals and carries the play forward.

Mika, again we're just going to have to differ I guess. When the lights are the brightest he doesn't show up. I'm not talking about 2 years ago. Talking about what I've seen over the last 2 POs. He did nothing vs CAR and has done nothing vs FL when they need him the most.

Rangers 5v5 has been an issue for years. The book on them is they're willing to cede puck possession, play possum on defense, let their elite goalie bail them out and then kill on the counter or the PP. That's literally what they've been and what they are.

When I watch my team I am extremely critical of them and believe guys should be held accountable. If Mika was 23/24 sure there might be another level to get to the ceiling. He's 31, he's reached his ceiling.
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Fox is one of the best defenders in his own zone in the entire league. Among the elite D, he's one of, if not THE most balanced in terms of elite offense and elite defense. I can show you video clips where he single handedly breaks up multiple 3 on 1 rushes. Don't judge him based on one bad playoffs where he got his knee collided into early.

As for Zib, he's definitely reached his ceiling. But his ceiling is very good. He is a 35-40 goal, 75-90 pt Center who is a master snipe on the PP and excellent at killing penalties. During the COVID shortened 2019-20, if it was a full season he was on pace for nearly 60 goals lol. I think sometimes people actually UNDERRATE Zibanejad because he's better than the guys like Necas, Barzal, etc, so we expect more, but he's not quite on the level of the big boys in the Top 10, and people say "You can't win with him". He's an excellent player.
 
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albator71 said:
So what you're saying is that Ottawa won that trade??? :sarcasm:
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Lol. How you infer that from what I said makes you sound…..

KingDeathMetal said:
Fox is one of the best defenders in his own zone in the entire league. Among the elite D, he's one of, if not THE most balanced in terms of elite offense and elite defense. I can show you video clips where he single handedly breaks up multiple 3 on 1 rushes. Don't judge him based on one bad playoffs where he got his knee collided into early.

As for Zib, he's definitely reached his ceiling. But his ceiling is very good. He is a 35-40 goal, 75-90 pt Center who is a master snipe on the PP and excellent at killing penalties. During the COVID shortened 2019-20, if it was a full season he was on pace for nearly 60 goals lol. I think sometimes people actually UNDERRATE Zibanejad because he's better than the guys like Necas, Barzal, etc, so we expect more, but he's not quite on the level of the big boys in the Top 10, and people say "You can't win with him". He's an excellent player.
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Master snipe on the pp…. Hahahahahahahahahahahahshahahahahahahahahahahahaha

DevilDog99 said:
Lol. How you infer that from what I said makes you sound…..


Master snipe on the pp…. Hahahahahahahahahahahahshahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Ahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahaa. Master snipe on the pp….
 
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KingDeathMetal said:
If you think Fox doesn't take over games, you don't watch enough Adam Fox. He's absolutely lethal. It sounds like most of your opinions on NYR players were formed in the series last year, which is a tiny sample size. There's rarely a player who had a good series on a team that lost in the first round. Forget the Devils series. Look at the last 40-50 playoff games as a whole.

This whole thread is basically, "Proven playoff and regular season performer has one bad series, is suddenly not good in the playoffs forever".
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Proven playoff and regular season performer?

Fox had one good playoff run out of 4. We can make it 3 if you don't want to count his first year since he did not play many games. So lets say 1 out of 3. 1 out of 3 proves nothing bud.

Even in his "good" playoff performance 2 seasons ago he put up points but he had his struggles defensively. That does not equate to a #1 D who will carry his team to a cup, it just means he put up points. Yet somehow he hasn't been able to put up points the following 2 playoffs and that is what he is mainly there for.

Morale of the story is Fox is very similar to Panarin. Excels in regular season hockey but when playoffs start he is not your guy. Panarin is lethal also until the playoffs start. Although I personally wouldn't call Adam Fox lethal, ever.
 
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Oak said:
Proven playoff and regular season performer?

Fox had one good playoff run out of 4. We can make it 3 if you don't want to count his first year since he did not play many games. So lets say 1 out of 3. 1 out of 3 proves nothing bud.

Even in his "good" playoff performance 2 seasons ago he put up points but he had his struggles defensively. That does not equate to a #1 D who will carry his team to a cup, it just means he put up points. Yet somehow he hasn't been able to put up points the following 2 playoffs and that is what he is mainly there for.

Morale of the story is Fox is very similar to Panarin. Excels in regular season hockey but when playoffs start he is not your guy. Panarin is lethal also until the playoffs start. Although I personally wouldn't call Adam Fox lethal, ever.
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I like how you move the goal posts and claim Fox isn’t good in the playoffs, even in his good playoff performance years lol.

Just admit that you barely watch him play. At least that would be honest.

A healthy Fox is a beast in the playoffs, on both sides.

Edit-He also put up 8 points in 7 playoff games last year.
 
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Peltz said:
Dude, he's not top 15 anymore. This isn't 2019.

He's past those elite days.
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He had a career year last year, what are you talking about lol.

Oak said:
Proven playoff and regular season performer?

Fox had one good playoff run out of 4. We can make it 3 if you don't want to count his first year since he did not play many games. So lets say 1 out of 3. 1 out of 3 proves nothing bud.

Even in his "good" playoff performance 2 seasons ago he put up points but he had his struggles defensively. That does not equate to a #1 D who will carry his team to a cup, it just means he put up points. Yet somehow he hasn't been able to put up points the following 2 playoffs and that is what he is mainly there for.

Morale of the story is Fox is very similar to Panarin. Excels in regular season hockey but when playoffs start he is not your guy. Panarin is lethal also until the playoffs start. Although I personally wouldn't call Adam Fox lethal, ever.
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Fox's playoff sample size is too small to label him as "not a playoff performer." Sorry, league history is filled with great players who took a while to become big time playoff guys. Fox had a great playoffs two years ago, so we know he's capable of it. He's clearly hurt right now.

And if you wouldn't call Fox lethal, again you clearly don't watch him play.
 
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Summer has just started, still plenty of time to redeem himself


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