meta physics of hockey

[oba]

I'd like to start a thread, just one thread only, on the big picture of hockey.

This is about the sport in general and how it's being presented in both the corporate entertainment sphere (pro hockey) and also in the amateur and development sphere.

The game itself is governed by certain forces. At the NHL level, we get the business model on full force.

This has led, among other things, to a preseason schedule (up to 10 games), a regular schedule of 82 games, and then a playoff schedule of anywhere between 16 and 28 games, which also include overtimes.

Pro football by comparison has a 17 game schedule, and up to 4 playoff games.

This is vast gulf of difference. Is revenue the only factor, or are there other factors as well? If so, what.

Pro sports has the elegant and the grotesque. NHL is no exception.

Why is grotesque tolerated?

There's more but I will let this simmer and bake for a bit.

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[HockeyVirus]

You said it pal

 

[Coffee]

You getting far too sophisticated here, tone it down a bit.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Not sure that's Metaphysics so much as capitalism.

 

[ryan callahan]

There's more but I will let this simmer and bake for a bit.

Won't be the online thing baked in this thread.

 

[Mr Kot]

The reality is that, because the NHL is a business with lots of people personally invested in it, the NHL will continue to feel more and more "corporately sanitized" to what puts butts in seats, even if the end product is somewhat unsatisfactory. I'm normally don't see a schism between being able to do business and having a "soul" for example, but the NHL has swung pretty far to the business side and the culture side hasn't either caught up, or is basically gone for now. I think it will eventually swing back, but like I said with Hockey Canada, it has to crash and burn before it can get better.

Assuming you are talking about what you I think you are.

 

[Planetov]

I’m here for this.

 

[crowi]

Oh yeah, let's simmer and bake....

 

[oba]

I’m here for this.

the wide view

 

[Master P]

Why is it tolerated?

If it didn't make money then they would change it.

 

[oba]

So does hockey come 2nd to bz revenue?

Btw.

I call a 120- game season grotesque.

A couple of teams identities are over the top grotesque ...

 

[Pablo El Perro]

So does hockey come 2nd to bz revenue?

Btw.

I call a 120- game season grotesque.

That's an opinion.Not sure what it has to do with Metaphysics, however you are defining the field of study. And I've probably read more French brain rot than most.

 

[Coffee]

Why is it tolerated?

If it didn't make money then they would change it.

So it's really all about money huh ? like how they told us when we were younger

 

[oba]

Mais je ne comprend pas .....

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Mais je ne comprend pas .....

Say it in Espanol

 

[BLNY]

No absinthe before posting.

 

[tarheelhockey]

This has led, among other things, to a preseason schedule (up to 10 games), a regular schedule of 82 games, and then a playoff schedule of anywhere between 16 and 28 games, which also include overtimes.

Pro football by comparison has a 17 game schedule, and up to 4 playoff games.

This is vast gulf of difference. Is revenue the only factor, or are there other factors as well? If so, what.

Revenue is the upward pressure that pushes for more games.

Logistics are the downward pressure that pushes for fewer games. Injury, travel, arena availability, media coverage, etc.

Upward pressure is greatest in baseball, where fatigue and injury are minimal and the game is played on purpose-built fields which exist solely to host baseball games. MLB can and does play virtually every day with few negative outcomes.

Downward pressure is greatest in football, where injuries are a constant consideration and game days are a massive logistical production. NFL struggles to schedule a team on the Thursday following a Sunday game.

Hockey and basketball fall in between the extremes — physically demanding sports played in multipurpose arenas which often host both sports simultaneously alongside concerts, circuses, etc. So their scheduling falls in the middle ground, with 2-3 games per week.

If the NHL were a non-contact league played in purpose-built ice arenas, you better believe they’d be playing 4-5 times a week.

 

[Super Hans]

 

[oba]

No absinthe before posting.

Have had a certain feeling of creepie jeebies regarding one franchise in particular, but actually, for the most part, don't even wanna go there .....

 

[chris kontos]

See disney/espn business model and goals

 

[Kryten]

 

[Hennessy]

Like, what's the deal with stuff, you know?

 

[oba]

Revenue is the upward pressure that pushes for more games.

Logistics are the downward pressure that pushes for fewer games. Injury, travel, arena availability, media coverage, etc.

Upward pressure is greatest in baseball, where fatigue and injury are minimal and the game is played on purpose-built fields which exist solely to host baseball games. MLB can and does play virtually every day with few negative outcomes.

Downward pressure is greatest in football, where injuries are a constant consideration and game days are a massive logistical production. NFL struggles to schedule a team on the Thursday following a Sunday game.

Hockey and basketball fall in between the extremes — physically demanding sports played in multipurpose arenas which often host both sports simultaneously alongside concerts, circuses, etc. So their scheduling falls in the middle ground, with 2-3 games per week.

If the NHL were a non-contact league played in purpose-built ice arenas, you better believe they’d be playing 4-5 times a week.

Yep ..

 

[McPoyle]

Should this not be titled "economics of hockey"?

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

When the other guy is quite a bit shorter of course you're going to hit him in the head. That's just meta physics.