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Negan4Coach

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STATES RIGHTS TO DO WHAT.

I guess you've been lied to about US history, not surprising.

Lincoln was not going to ban slavery. All he was going to do was stop the EXPANSION of slavery to new territory. If all the South wanted was to hang on to their slaves, secession not necessary. No, they wanted it all- expanding the bloc of slave states to increase political power in Congress (thanks to the 3/5 rule) and economic power.

The hilarious part is they did secession via this "Democracy" thing that people seem to love so much nowadays. You know, a duly elected state legislature doing it, hell they even had a Plebiscite in Texas on the issue. They make it seem like bands of bloodthirsty Brigands descended upon state capitals and seized control or something.

There was nothing in the Constitution that forbade a state to leave a union it at one time willingly entered (and indeed, the Southern states had to be basically bribed and cajoled into joining the rebellion and union in the first place). Nothing really much different then when the colonists decided they didn't want to be part of the British Empire anymore.

That's not to say it was morally just or anything. Or smart- the fact they couldn't understand that their cotton would eventually be embargoed by the British over slavery was really shortsighted - it just was what it was. It is also dumb for some people to pretend it wasn't over slavery. It just wasn't over slavery they way most people think it was.
 
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MrazeksVengeance

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I guess you've been lied to about US history, not surprising.

Lincoln was not going to ban slavery. All he was going to do was stop the EXPANSION of slavery to new territory. If all the South wanted was to hang on to their slaves, secession not necessary. No, they wanted it all- expanding the bloc of slave states to increase political power in Congress (thanks to the 3/5 rule) and economic power.

The hilarious part is they did secession via this "Democracy" thing that people seem to love so much nowadays. You know, a duly elected state legislature doing it, hell they even had a Plebiscite in Texas on the issue. They make it seem like bands of bloodthirsty Brigands descended upon state capitals and seized control or something.

There was nothing in the Constitution that forbade a state to leave a union it at one time willingly entered (and indeed, the Southern states had to be basically bribed and cajoled into joining the rebellion and union in the first place). Nothing really much different then when the colonists decided they didn't want to be part of the British Empire anymore.

That's not to say it was morally just or anything. Or smart- the fact they couldn't understand that their cotton would eventually be embargoed by the British over slavery was really shortsighted - it just was what it was. It is also dumb for some people to pretend it wasn't over slavery. It just wasn't over slavery they way most people think it was.
It’s a funny meme.

And we agree that slavery is bad.
 

Negan4Coach

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It’s a funny meme.

And we agree that slavery is bad.
Yes. And if you really read what I'm saying- the truth is actually WORSE. They weren't fighting to keep their slaves- they were fighting for the right to make OTHER people have to have slaves. Yikes.

But at the end of the day Lincoln was still a white supremacist, Jeff Davis and Robert E Lee opposed secession yet made the decision to defend it, there were heroes and villains on both sides of the conflict and it cost nearly 3% of our country their lives and we still suffer from the effects of it to this day. But nobody wants to be honest about the whole thing. I recommend watching the Ken Burns documentary on it. They've hidden it- but you can still see it on PBS for a donation of $5.

Anyway here's a Barbie meme
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I guess you've been lied to about US history, not surprising.

Lincoln was not going to ban slavery. All he was going to do was stop the EXPANSION of slavery to new territory. If all the South wanted was to hang on to their slaves, secession not necessary. No, they wanted it all- expanding the bloc of slave states to increase political power in Congress (thanks to the 3/5 rule) and economic power.

The hilarious part is they did secession via this "Democracy" thing that people seem to love so much nowadays. You know, a duly elected state legislature doing it, hell they even had a Plebiscite in Texas on the issue. They make it seem like bands of bloodthirsty Brigands descended upon state capitals and seized control or something.

There was nothing in the Constitution that forbade a state to leave a union it at one time willingly entered (and indeed, the Southern states had to be basically bribed and cajoled into joining the rebellion and union in the first place). Nothing really much different then when the colonists decided they didn't want to be part of the British Empire anymore.

That's not to say it was morally just or anything. Or smart- the fact they couldn't understand that their cotton would eventually be embargoed by the British over slavery was really shortsighted - it just was what it was. It is also dumb for some people to pretend it wasn't over slavery. It just wasn't over slavery they way most people think it was.
I learned more about the above in 15 seconds of a Simpson episode than I did in school.
 

MrazeksVengeance

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Listen this is alm mighty interesting, but right now I am in the final 4 hours of a 24 hour shift and I didn’t sleep much, because an old fella had a paroxysmal arythmia - fast atrial flutter, while having low BP and an old (relatively self-sufficient) lady fell on her wrist and sure as hell it’s broken.

Falling in hospital is the worst. Especially Paperwork. Giving people painkillers and sending then ti imaging and traumatology is easy enough.
 

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Listen this is alm mighty interesting, but right now I am in the final 4 hours of a 24 hour shift and I didn’t sleep much, because an old fella had a paroxysmal arythmia - fast atrial flutter, while having low BP and an old (relatively self-sufficient) lady fell on her wrist and sure as hell it’s broken.

Falling in hospital is the worst. Especially Paperwork. Giving people painkillers and sending then ti imaging and traumatology is easy enough.
What do you give for the flutter?
 

bleedgreen

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Digoxin. Adenosine too much boom.

Guy is DNR/DNI by the way. Pneumooncological.
Tough to treat in someone so fragile. We don’t carry dig in the field so with flutter if it’s symptomatic you’re riding the lightning. We only give Adenosine to SVT so that’s not an option for us.

Get some rest! The no sleep thing is what’s killing me the quickest, you lose your circadian rhythm.
 

NotOpie

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Listen this is alm mighty interesting, but right now I am in the final 4 hours of a 24 hour shift and I didn’t sleep much, because an old fella had a paroxysmal arythmia - fast atrial flutter, while having low BP and an old (relatively self-sufficient) lady fell on her wrist and sure as hell it’s broken.

Falling in hospital is the worst. Especially Paperwork. Giving people painkillers and sending then ti imaging and traumatology is easy enough.
Re: Falling in the hospital....back in February my step-son was in a very bad car wreck. Bunch of broken ribs, bad concussion, head and chest lacerations, and a gruesome gouge in his upper arm. That last piece was about the size of a tennis ball.

Anyway, we were with him in the emergency room after the initial sets of treatments and the nurse came in to change his dressing on the arm wound. My wife used to joke about how she passed out when he was a little boy getting stitches. So I said, "Honey, please don't watch this". So while I was watching the nurse do her work, my wife glanced at the wound and passed out. I was lucky to see it at the last minute and was able to grab her before her head hit the floor.

But the damage was done, her leg/ankle got caught beneath the bed. To make a long story longer she ended up breaking her ankle badly in the emergency room. Interestingly enough, after she got over trying to "muscle through" we got a doctor to look at it and they had her in a room and were "splinting" it within 10 or 15 minutes.

She eventually had to have surgery, had screws and a plate put in and she's still got a bit of a limp.

The point being, we never saw any paperwork, and were treated like royalty (assuming they thought we'd sue or something). Just a crazy, unlucky turn of events.
 

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