Meier knee Necas

[Blueline Bomber]

I don’t think anyone expected him to be further disciplined.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

I dont think that Meier did anything wrong, he tried to hit shoulder to shoulder. Some bad accident.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

This was a pretty textbook kneeing call regardless of what you feel about intent. I’m a Canes fan and I don’t think he was trying maim Necas. Meier did have his knee in a bad spot, it looks bad to me in that light. It’s easy to think he led with his knee even if he lunged with his upper body as well. The Devils I noticed before and after try very hard to play the body on Necas.

BS. Necas entirely causes the contact. Meier didn’t stick the knee out or make any changes. Necas is well within his right to try and get out of the way but in doing so in the way he did caused the contact. Not a thing Meier can do

 

[SladeWilson23]

It has nothing to do with being lucky or Necas being injured. It wasn’t even a penalty. He doesn’t stick his knee out or change his angle at all. Necas caused the knee contact.

FYI Meier is just coming back from a recent suspension. If they even thought he was rightfully kicked out he would be facing a suspension as a repeat offender. It was a stupid reactionary call by the refs to a player rolling around on the ice and going off like his season was over.

Don’t even care about the debate on whether Necas was faking or what because it’s irrelevant to the fact that it wasn’t a penalty by Meier.

And the call completely changed the game.

This right here. I'm not upset at Necas. I can't tell you if he was in pain or not, and we'll never know.

 

[IDEKWTM]

You're doing it wrong. Always blame the victim for not skating properly.lol

Always blame the driver who initiate contact in an accident without looking at others variables.

 

[LakeLivin]

Good because that guy is twat.



Yes.

Looking for clarification. Did you mean that I'm "a twat" or just "twat", like you posted? I'm asking because referring to someone as "a twat" is clearly an insult. But if it's just "twat" alone? Not sure about you, but I view the female genitalia in a very positive light, so referring to someone as "twat" or "the twat" could be very complimentary.

So, if you meant the former I feel obligated to give you a finger wag and point out that you're probably violating HF Boards policy. But if you meant the latter, thank you!

 

[NyQuil]

Absolutely laughable comparison to Necas altering his entire body posture and trying to jump to the side. Karlsson braces and rotates slightly to not take the hit dead on - what he doesn’t do is extend his own legs, shift his upper body, and try to jump to his right.

He doesn’t see Ovechkin until the last second.

There’s a reason why most open ice hitters come from the side instead of straight on.

Meier made a split second and ultimately wrong decision and unsurprisingly you and other Devils fans are fixated on the fact that you got a penalty out of it as opposed to the fact that Meier’s poorly timed attempt at an open ice hit was an absolute failure and both he and Necas are lucky that he escaped further injury.

He took his shot and missed, end of story.

 

[SladeWilson23]

BS. Necas entirely causes the contact. Meier didn’t stick the knee out or make any changes. Necas is well within his right to try and get out of the way but in doing so in the way he did caused the contact. Not a thing Meier can do

To add on to this point, by no means is this poster victim blaming. It was just a series of unfortunate events which favored the Canes.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

He doesn’t see Ovechkin until the last second.

There’s a reason why most open ice hitters come from the side instead of straight on.

Meier made a split second and ultimately wrong decision and unsurprisingly you and other Devils fans are fixated on the fact that you got a penalty out of it as opposed to the fact that Meier’s poorly timed attempt at an open ice hit was an absolute failure and both he and Necas are lucky that he escaped further injury.

He took his shot and missed, end of story.

Ovechkin is literally skating straight at him dead on from the opposite blue line. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[NyQuil]

I dont think that Meier did anything wrong, he tried to hit shoulder to shoulder. Some bad accident.

Most penalties are bad accidents.

Ovechkin is literally skating straight at him dead on from the opposite blue line. What the hell are you talking about?

LOL, no wonder you have such a tough time with this hit considering you can’t even perceive reality with your own two eyes.

He’s clearly coming at him from about a 45 degree angle.

Karlsson is looking down ice and doesn’t see him.

 

[SladeWilson23]

He doesn’t see Ovechkin until the last second.

There’s a reason why most open ice hitters come from the side instead of straight on.

Meier made a split second and ultimately wrong decision and unsurprisingly you and other Devils fans are fixated on the fact that you got a penalty out of it as opposed to the fact that Meier’s poorly timed attempt at an open ice hit was an absolute failure and both he and Necas are lucky that he escaped further injury.

He took his shot and missed, end of story.

Ok and all of this doesn't make it a penalty. Necas made a poor attempt at avoiding the hit as well.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Most penalties are bad accidents.

True. This accident was at the fault of both parties. Necas could have just as easily hurt Meier in that play.

 

[NyQuil]

Here, I’ll make it easier for the hard of seeing:

That blur on the left is Ovechkin. That guy straight ahead of Karlsson isn’t.

True. This accident was at the fault of both parties. Necas could have just as easily hurt Meier in that play.

Yes, the guy with the puck is at fault.

Of course.

You guys really do live in an alternate reality.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Essentially yes. If you're legit in as much pain Necas made it seem, then you better be getting it checked out.

Not sure why there’s this insistence on a hard and fast rule other than because so much drama was loaded into the event by what transpired after with the major and a goal against. Multiple times every season watching my own team, players on my team and the opposing team get hurt and plays stops and they are back for their next shift. If your knee bends like Necas’ did, clearly that’s going to cause pain in the moment, perhaps extreme.

It’s such an obvious concept that seems to be getting denied because it’s more emotionally satisfying for the team/fans that feel they got “screwed” to put a few things together and claim they have proof of malice. Based on the actual event (the knee on knee contact), what transpired is entirely believable. The major penalty and subsequent goal pissed people off and because of that, they’re thinking they know that Necas was a faker when a replay of the actual event makes that an obviously shaky assertion.

Could he have been milking a call? Yes. But he also easily could not have been. By the time the referees were reviewing the call, Necas was up and at the bench. Lots of NJD fans are acting like the guy was hauled off on a stretcher and then came running back to the playing surface as soon as the major was confirmed.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Most penalties are bad accidents.



LOL, no wonder you have such a tough time with this hit considering you can’t even perceive reality with your own two eyes.

He’s clearly coming at him from about a 45 degree angle.

Karlsson is looking down ice and doesn’t see him.

45 degree angle?? LOL. That must be Ottawa math. They're both skating towards the center of the ice and Ovechkin is skating in a straight line the whole way, ending up square on Karlsson until he rotates his body. Karlsson doesn't see him until late because he's going skate to puck and trying to track it before gaining full control.

Talking about hard of seeing...

 

[IDEKWTM]

I swear some people just want to build their own alt reality just to prove a point.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Not sure why there’s this insistence on a hard and fast rule other than because so much drama was loaded into the event by what transpired after with the major and a goal against. Multiple times every season watching my own team, players on my team and the opposing team get hurt and plays stops and they are back for their next shift. If your knee bends like Necas’ did, clearly that’s going to cause pain in the moment, perhaps extreme.

See, I thought that was commonplace in the sport, but the guy last night has said he's never seen it in a Devils game as far as he can remember. Which is a wild take.

 

[NyQuil]

If he was coming at him straight on, the two yellow lines would be the same line.

Thank you for helping me prove my point, it’s very sporting of you.

Karlsson tries to turn away but Ovechkin has the angle covered. No matter which way he turns it’s a body on body hit.

Meier missed and went leg on leg.

 

[Stickpucker]

The Canes literally scored the game winner on the 3 mins LMAO???

Look bub, Carolina already gave you two top 4 rd to help fix your pk.

What more do you need?

 

[IDEKWTM]

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If he was coming at him straight on, the two yellow lines would be the same line.

Thank you for helping me prove my point, it’s very sporting of you.

Karlsson tries to turn away but Ovechkin has the angle covered. No matter which way he turns it’s a body on body hit.

Meier missed and went leg on leg.

So you're going to completely dismiss Karlsson trajectory?

Man, that's becoming completely embarassing.

 

[NyQuil]

So you're going to completely dismiss Karlsson trajectory?

Man, that's becoming completely embarassing.

Trajectory?

Look at where their skates are pointing.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I swear some people just want to build their own alt reality just to prove a point.

It was a penalty, right call was made.

 

[IDEKWTM]

Trajectory?

Look at where their skates are pointing.

Look at frame by frame where Karlsson starts relative to center ice line and where he ends up before the contact.

He was further to the right from the dot when he was retrieving the puck and as he started skating towards center ice he ended up closer to the dot.

Like man come on, this isn't that hard.

 

[NyQuil]

It was a penalty, right call was made.

Of course it was.

Saying that no suspension was allocated proves it wasn’t a penalty is the height of lunacy.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

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If he was coming at him straight on, the two yellow lines would be the same line.

Thank you for helping me prove my point, it’s very sporting of you.

Karlsson tries to turn away by Ovechkin has the angle covered.

Buddy, are you okay? Karlsson is skating towards the center of the ice, not in a straight line...

That's how he manages to start here, outside the neutral zone dot:

To here, just over the center ice circle:

If Karlsson kept the same trajectory he'd be over the painted circle, instead inside the circle two feet outside the faceoff dot.

Ovechkin isn't perfectly line up, but 45 degrees? LOL. And in fact, the angle isn't all that dissimilar from Meier's even though you can't stop crying about it:

Trajectory?

Look at where their skates are pointing.

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Ovechkin turns his body to lead with his shoulder. Are you for real??