GDT: Mediocre storms collide | Tropical Depressions vs. Bolts

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Finlandia WOAT

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Left after the 2nd.

5-0 loss to divisional opponent.

On pace for the top pick.

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Do Meth for Seth!!
 

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Kirk says the leaders are working hard and doing a good job.

Not trolling. He really said that.

Quick, someone show him the highlight for the 4th goal. Or ask him how those "leaders" responded after putting the team in a hole...30 seconds into the 2nd.
 

WalkerBabe

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I will ask again...how long before this falls at Muller's feet? Someone has to be accountable. Muller, JR and team leadership void are all equally culpable.

This. If Paul Maurice were still here, he'd have been crucified by now! Everything was always his fault, so why is nothing Muller's fault?
 

FlyingSquirrels

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I've never said a bad word about Jordan Staal, yet he is invisible. Was he a product of everyone paying attention to Sid and Geno? He wanted the #2C role and he sucks at it quite frankly.

I've never said a bad word about Muller, but this is a team spiraling out of control and his laid back/stoner methodologies are exactly what this team DOES NOT need. A fire and brimstone coach wears out after a while, but these are the times when one needs to be brought in. Complacency reins with this sad sack group.

If JR re-signs Corvo I will personally send a shrink into JR's office as he is obviously losing his mind. And to think he was actually thinking about ACQUIRING players and not DUMPING them is also quite concerning. Starting to think he needs to retire as he seems totally clueless about how to handle a team in disarray.
 

Finlandia WOAT

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This. If Paul Maurice were still here, he'd have been crucified by now! Everything was always his fault, so why is nothing Muller's fault?

I have an idea. Let's wait until Muller gets a full training camp along with the team he wants (with all the forward UFA's and cap strapped teams this year, shouldn't be hard for JR) before crucifying him.

The only thing keeping me any kind of hopeful next season is that Muller is going to implement a new, unique system (this still has vestiges of Mo IMO) with a full training camp. And even I, as optimistic as can be, recognize that as somewhat reaching.
 

garnetpalmetto

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This. If Paul Maurice were still here, he'd have been crucified by now! Everything was always his fault, so why is nothing Muller's fault?

For starter's Muller has coached a little more than the equivalent of a single NHL season (93 games total - 57 games last season, 36 games this season) and has yet to have an actual training camp. They had a single week of practice prior to the start of this season. We all know you loved Mo, and that's fine, but this desire of yours to place all the blame at Muller's feet simply because he replaced Mo is frankly mystifying, especially given the abbreviated preparations for the season, injuries to key players (particularly Ward and Faulk) and the heightened pace of the season where teams simply don't have the time to break down and rebuild a system midseason. Like Highway pointed out, there are still vestiges of Maurice in this system.

As for the crucifixion of Paul Maurice, a great part of that, in my opinion, lays in poor personnel management - his reluctance to play young guys while giving Rosie top line minutes (just as an example) undoubtedly Pejorative Slured player development while also playing demands on players simply not able to shoulder the burden. I'm not a Rosie hater, but the guy is a 3rd/4th linerand while he can chip in and play first line minutes in a pinch he shouldn't be in the top 6. To Mo, this would be heresy. Give Muller credit for at least giving us looks at guys who would still be long buried in Charlotte under Maurice.
 
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Sens1Canes2

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Team successful for a while, then sucks, Lavi fired. Team successful for a while, then sucks, Maurice fired. Team successful for a while, then sucks.....fire Muller?

Maybe "the core" sucks over an extended period of time.
 

Finlandia WOAT

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Team successful for a while, then sucks, Lavi fired. Team successful for a while, then sucks, Maurice fired. Team successful for a while, then sucks.....fire Muller?

Maybe "the core" sucks over an extended period of time.

I think its the GM rather than the core...
 

Joe McGrath

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Team successful for a while, then sucks, Lavi fired. Team successful for a while, then sucks, Maurice fired. Team successful for a while, then sucks.....fire Muller?

Maybe "the core" sucks over an extended period of time.

When the core lacks any good defenseman to speak of, it's not really much of a core to begin with.
 

NorthStar4Canes

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This was the worst post game interview for Cpt. Kirk...

He sounded completely lost and.... pathetic.... :(

In a perfect world, he should have come out holding the freshly-severed heads of Staal and Gleason, apologized to the fans who spent money on tickets to that ****-show and promised better next time, and as an interim measure thrown Corvo with his faux tough-guy tats and mohawk into a pit of hungry crocodiles.
 

dmonk

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In a perfect world, he should have come out holding the freshly-severed heads of Staal and Gleason, apologized to the fans who spent money on tickets to that ****-show and promised better next time, and as an interim measure thrown Corvo with his faux tough-guy tats and mohawk into a pit of hungry crocodiles.

wait... Tortorella is still employed... can't have him.
 

Lazyking

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I'm fine with giving Muller another year. A training camp will help I'm sure and not to mention, the excuse of injuries could be blamed for the tailspin by management to give him another year.

Besides, the core is what it is. They're not trading either Staal or Skinner and why would any team take a flyer on glass Pits before next season started?

So if it goes bad early next year, Muller is gone and hopefully JR too but I doubt PK has the balls to fire JR, he'll probably just retire.
 

WalkerBabe

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I'm not blaming Muller "for all this." I'm saying *some* of the blame must be laid on him. I think he does deserve a start next season ... but if we get to Thanksgiving, and we're still in a funk with this team, then, well ... :help: I'm not saying Maurice did everything right, but he didn't do everything wrong either. He was also saddled with a lot of injuries a lot of the time, and went through E. Staal's worst slump with him ... still, he was criticized unmercifully and blamed for everything but the economic crisis!!!
 

Finlandia WOAT

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There's plenty of blame to go around.

Breakout system figured out and exploited with little change (that's worked)? Muller's fault.

The fact that our defensemen are slow, can't bring the puck up the ice, panic under pressure and can't complete a pass?

Said problem with defense going unadressed for a long, long time (which even most posters on HF recognized as a major problem)? JR's fault.

Special teams sucking? That's a little bit of everyone, coaching and team.

Our goaltenders playing piss poor or injured?

Our forwards lacking size and/or the will to play a forechecking game effectively, restricting them to a transition game (which only 1 line can play consistently, maybe 2 if Skinner gets his head out of his ass)?

You could see it tonight. We have the talent to get set up and get some pretty good ES pressure/ zone time against many teams. But we can't get into the zone for many reasons, of which nearly everyone is to blame. Add in our goaltending woes, our amazing defense and our even better special teams, and we have this debacle.

It's a bunch of little things that a team with our talent could play through, if they weren't happening all at the same time.
 

Roboturner913

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I am done being let down by this garbage team and its pitiful excuse for "effort". I can't believe these guys don't feel shame when they pick up their paycheck.

First Carolina Hurricanes team I've ever truly been ashamed of.
 

nobuddy

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I'm on the Rangers bandwagon. I like that new roster a lot. Maybe on the Penguins bandwagon once the playoffs start though, I like them a lot better with Sid in the lineup and I REALLY want Iginla to win a Cup.
 

Razputyn

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He's raving, just let him be. Part of his job is to polish a turd here and there, but he's suddenly been handed one so friggin' big on home ice he can't even begin to get his arms around it so his mouth is on auto-babble.

This is a great quote. And so true.

I guess I'm a bandwagon fan now, because I don't watch much of the games for the past X stretch. I head to sports.yahoo.com/nhl, see how far we're behind, play the sad trombone noise in my own head, and then go back to a productive use of my time.

This team. They had so much potential.
 
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