GDT: Me Watching It All Unfold

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Tobias Kahun

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Yeah, I think some are too married to Hyman being a staple in the top 6. He is a very versatile player and can drive play on his own (to an extent). Part of why he was a great signing is he can play up and down the lineup like he did with the Leafs. They just haven't felt the need to do so here (nor had the depth to try other options in the top 6).
I feel like Hyman has a better chance to drive a 3rd line than RNH does at this point.

I dont mind the lines.
 

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I feel like Hyman has a better chance to drive a 3rd line than RNH does at this point.

I dont mind the lines.

I agree a lot with that. Hyman is all jam, easy to get behind a guy like that. Plus that 3rd line has a hardworking identity too.

Also did you see our mod friend followed me to our board and edited our posts on the other thread…
 

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I agree a lot with that. Hyman is all jam, easy to get behind a guy like that. Plus that 3rd line has a hardworking identity too.

Also did you see our mod friend followed me to our board and edited our posts on the other thread…
Must be a different mod, the one I was thinking of cant do anything in HFOil and hes the international mod.
 
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I feel like Hyman has a better chance to drive a 3rd line than RNH does at this point.

I dont mind the lines.

Why are we expecting Nuge to drive a line when he can't seem to produce enough with McDavid. Just try something different. Nuge with Drai worked before and using Nuge as the first forward back would cover for Drai's defensive deficiencies. Nuge on a 3rd line checking line may not push offense but could be reliable in the postseason holding a lead, especially when we can line match. Anointing a declining player a permanent fixture at 1LW is poor coaching.
 
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Ducks beat the Jets yesterday. They have been playing alot better lately.
Funny enough, it might be the Trouba trade that made the difference. Just look at how the Rangers have fallen apart after trading him (not that they were great before, but woof). The Ducks are 6-4 in their last 10
 

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Canada basically missed the playoffs. (I know they technically didn’t)

It would take a lot to match the disappointment lol
Lol that's true.

In the timeless words of Benny Stelter, "WOOF!"
You see. You boys are lucky. If the oilers do bad. You still have various pictures of Tyler doing the splits to keep you all happy

I don't have that at all!

Do we know if Skinner is starting?
Don't think it's confirmed yet
 

K1984

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Ducks beat the Jets yesterday. They have been playing alot better lately.

I've noticed a sizeable increase in their work rate the last few times I watched them. They handily outworked us in the game on Sunday as was the primary reason they won.

We've fallen back into the habit of floating our way into games a bit, and we have to not do that tonight.
 

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Knob is a knob putting Hyman on the 3rd line. The guy potted 70 goals last year, but I see Nuge gets the free pass once again.
I don't mind Hyman there. He is basically an elite third line player just in style. It's not like a Jeff Skinner where if he spends time in the bottom six he just slumps more. Hyman will look great on the third line. His scoring has been a bit off since getting his nose broken and having to wear the cage as well.
 

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Knob is a knob putting Hyman on the 3rd line. The guy potted 70 goals last year, but I see Nuge gets the free pass once again.

If you look from the perspective of "which move will make the third line work better" rather from the perspective of "which player should be punished by moving down the lineup," the rationale will be much more clear.
 
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Messrules11

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If you look from the perspective of "which move will make the third line work better" rather from the perspective of "which player should be punished by moving down the lineup," the rationale will be much more clear.
Well we all know the lines won’t stick, Knob will shuffle guys throughout the game as he usually does.
The rationale you describe could also be looked at as Nuge doing nothing without McD and next to nothing with him.
And If Brown is the other winger why do you need “the defensive responsibility” that Nuge brings on that line?
 

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I don't mind a shake up to the lines, particularly the top line, I can't shake the feeling that just swapping Hyman and Arvidsson would be a much better fit for everyone.

I like Arvidsson's energy, but he doesn't really click with the slower, overpowering game Drai and Podz want to play; Hyman does. I also think that works well for Podz, as his lack of goalscoring is covered by the fact he's distributing the puck for two 50 goal scorers.
Meanwhile, I think Arvidsson's energy and eye for making quick plays would blend perfectly with McDavid. Though I don't mind Brown getting a cup of coffee there for his strong play of recetn.

As for the bottom 6, cam we please just cut bait on the Skinner-Henrique tandem? It just doesn't work, as neither is overly fast or big.
Honestly I'm fine taking Skinner out. Doing that would probably help Henrique, as instead of both him and Skinner fighting over limited scraps of offensive minutes, those can all go to just one. I also don't think he or the team would complain about getting another reliable defensive option to back him up either.

RNH-McDavid-RV (speed and quick plays)
Podz-Drai-Hyman (size with the ability to cycle for days)
Janmark-Henrique-Brown (consistently proven the best 3rd line this team can ice)
Perry-Philp-Kapanen (A nice blend of offence and size. Imo a perfect setup for Philp to grow into being an NHL'er)
 
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K1984

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Well we all know the lines won’t stick, Knob will shuffle guys throughout the game as he usually does.
The rationale you describe could also be looked at as Nuge doing nothing without McD and next to nothing with him.
And If Brown is the other winger why do you need “the defensive responsibility” that Nuge brings on that line?

Nuge is playing like shit, but that is mostly irrelevant when he's paired with McDavid. It's a lot more relevant when he's on a third line that is getting caved. The goal here is putting someone on the third line that will move the needle and get that line moving a bit, not picking out who they need to punish.

Knoblauch accurately recognized that Brown is feeling it and is probably in a position to produce (temporarily) in a top line role, while the third line has been poor lately and needs a boost. Hyman can give that boost, while Brown can easily fill in (at the moment) up top. This is smart coaching.

It's pretty obvious the lines will change over the longer term. I don't understand what's so offensive about putting an actual driver on the third line to try and shake that line out of the funk it's been in for the past few weeks. Hyman is a driver, Nuge isn't.
 
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Nuge is playing like shit, but that is mostly irrelevant when he's paired with McDavid. It's a lot more relevant when he's on a third line that is getting caved. The goal here is putting someone on the third line that will move the needle and get that line moving a bit, not picking out who they need to punish.

Knoblauch accurately recognized that Brown is feeling it and is probably in a position to produce (temporarily) in a top line role, while the third line has been poor lately and needs a boost. Hyman can give that boost, while Brown can easily fill in (at the moment) up top. This is smart coaching.

It's pretty obvious the lines will change over the longer term. I don't understand what's so offensive about putting an actual driver on the third line to try and shake that line out of the funk it's been in for the past few weeks. Hyman is a driver, Nuge isn't.
Not sure I’ve ever heard Hyman described as a line driver until today. Funny.
 
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