McDonagh or Galchenyuk.

[NobleSix]

Galchenyuk easily.

Going to be fun looking back on this thread 5 years from now.

 

[Wats]

If Galchenyuk had played 2nd line center with offensive wingers and regular power play time, the results would be waaayyyy closer. He's been sheltered to not ruin jis confidence, but he's also being held back offensively because of our depth.

He hasn't been that sheltered this season. He's faced some pretty tough offensive lines while playing with Plekanec and faced some tough D when EGG was killing it at the start of the season.

 

[jiboy]

mcdonaugh, galchenyuk has been playing ok but he has not been blowing anyone away this year

hes still a great prospect but he's not shown any guarantee of being a top player in the league soon

 

[rockjngo]

Personally I think a #1 center with size is harder to find than a top 4 defenseman. Ryan McDonagh should never have been traded (poor Gainey who had to resign. Timmins was crying after he heard that McDonagh was traded). With Ryan McDonagh we probably would have a top 3 pick anyways what that God awful team. If we still had Ryan McDonagh, our defense would be much better and would be a contender.

Ryan McDonagh - PK Subban
Andrei Markov - Alex Emelin
Josh Gorges - ?

But when the coaches decide to move Alex Galchenyuk to center, we would see a very different Galchenyuk. I think Galchenyuk will be a top center, I'm not sure he'll be elite, I know he'll be very good two way #1 center like Jonathan Toews, David Kreji, Patrice Bergeron type.

 

[MaxChart]

I hate Gainey (the GM).

 

[Kimota]

You had to be a ****ing idiot to trade McDonagh. What was Bob Bob Bob thinking? I mean more than a few of us were like "if you trade any prospect of course McDonagh would never be offered". That he did it for even back then not so bad Gomez was a crime.

How can a GM be so unaware of a player's talent like that when scrubs like us knew?

*rant over*

 

[DAChampion]

You had to be a ****ing idiot to trade McDonagh. What was Bob Bob Bob thinking? I mean more than a few of us were like "if you trade any prospect of course McDonagh would never be offered". That he did it for even back then not so bad Gomez was a crime.

How can a GM be so unaware of a player's talent like that when scrubs like us knew?

*rant over*

Whatever, a lot of people thought McDonagh was busting at the time. He had had two underwhelming years in NCAA and wasn't being used on the first pairing.

Anyway, the McDonagh trade was in 2009 and now it's 2014. We've since more than recovered, with Galchenyuk but really the full 2012/2013 draft classes being part of that recovery. Yes we were damaged in the years 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 but those years are lost anyway since they are in the past.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You had to be a ****ing idiot to trade McDonagh. What was Bob Bob Bob thinking? I mean more than a few of us were like "if you trade any prospect of course McDonagh would never be offered". That he did it for even back then not so bad Gomez was a crime.

How can a GM be so unaware of a player's talent like that when scrubs like us knew?

*rant over*

Lots of people defended it...

 

[DAChampion]

Lots of people defended it...

Not a lot, I looked up the original Gomez trade thread a while back, the majority found it to be a bad trade.

 

[Kimota]

Whatever, a lot of people thought McDonagh was busting at the time. He had had two underwhelming years in NCAA and wasn't being used on the first pairing.

Anyway, the McDonagh trade was in 2009 and now it's 2014. We've since more than recovered, with Galchenyuk but really the full 2012/2013 draft classes being part of that recovery. Yes we were damaged in the years 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 but those years are lost anyway since they are in the past.

And that trade helped us get Chucky. Cause that third last place overall was years after years of Goat/Gainey screw ups.

But it was so much a case of a GM not only being unaware but not surrounded by good people.

 

[Kimota]

Not a lot, I looked up the original Gomez trade thread a while back, the majority found it to be a bad trade.

I was re-reading that thread and moderator Marc The Habs Fan said:

"see you guys in 2014 when this joke of a contract ends".

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

You had to be a ****ing idiot to trade McDonagh. What was Bob Bob Bob thinking? I mean more than a few of us were like "if you trade any prospect of course McDonagh would never be offered". That he did it for even back then not so bad Gomez was a crime.

How can a GM be so unaware of a player's talent like that when scrubs like us knew?

*rant over*

Wasn't just Gainey, I went back to posts on this board from draft '09. Before the Gomez trade. I even started a thread if we could get an extra first round pick for him. Every poster who responded either wanted McDonagh traded or said why...you won't nothing for him. He had a terrible WJC, looked lost

 

[Whitesnake]

Galchenyuk easily.

Going to be fun looking back on this thread 5 years from now.

I hope you do look at it and a few Norris nominations might tell you that it probably won't be that fun after all....Nobody is saying Galchenyuk will bust by the way. So not sure what is your point. 5 years for now, McDonagh will also establish himself as one of the best d-men in the league.

 

[Whitesnake]

Whatever, a lot of people thought McDonagh was busting at the time. He had had two underwhelming years in NCAA and wasn't being used on the first pairing.

Anyway, the McDonagh trade was in 2009 and now it's 2014. We've since more than recovered, with Galchenyuk but really the full 2012/2013 draft classes being part of that recovery. Yes we were damaged in the years 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 but those years are lost anyway since they are in the past.

Not true. Nobody thought he was "busting". Some were dissapointing by the lack of "apparent" (as far as fans were concerned) of improvement offensively as we were expecting pretty rapidly stats à la Chris Chelios. But Wisconsin was dynamite on the back end in his 2nd season with freakin McBain and Smith and him and Goloubef. But McDonagh was compared to Smith hence the "dissapointment". Yet....I've seen TONS of Badgers game. Tons of them. And seeing McDo play, you thought he was totally unauthorized to pass the red line.....They were concentrating in making him better defensively. Had enough power offensive with Smith and McBain, they were, or so it seems, not interested in grooming McDo as an off. d-man. He had a tough start of the year. Wasn't even that good defensively.....but was picking it up as the season progressed. But then, not enough as he wasn't picked for the 2008 World Juniors. So the panic started.....But of course, mostly filled with people who didn't see him play.

In 2009, you still had Smith who was above him...and a younger Schultz. But McDonagh was getting the tough assignations. And was playing MUCH better defensively. Okay...we started to re-evaluate the offensive game he would have been able to give us...but still believed he had everything to be a rock solid defensive d-man. He was having a good season until....the really average World Juniors came in and we weren,t that impressed. True. Enough to trade him? For Gomez? Absolutely not. But enough so that while at one point we thought McDonagh was ahead of Subban in our prospect pool, that his performances made us chose Subban ahead of him. We still have 2 good blue chip prospects in hand. But somehow in this world, if we have 1, the other is expendable....Will never understand that. Those aren't starting goalies....there's 6 d-men in a team. Now....was McDonagh then an untouchable? Surely not. But it was NEVER NEVER NEVER to be an asset in a trade of a guy the Rangers DESPERATELY wanted to get rid of....Never. Ever. I just don't want to imagine the party that management threw after that trade......Bad trade then, bad trade now, bad trade for the future. We still haven't inked Markov. We have a Subban who isn't where we thought he'd be. We have Tinordi and Beaulieu, who are still question marks while I believe they should be great. But to this point, we DO NOT have a rock solid young 2-way D like McDonagh in our system. Zero. Just freakin close your eyes and tell me how you would like to have him now against the Bruins......Would love to ask Price if he wouldn't love to have him now....

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Not a lot, I looked up the original Gomez trade thread a while back, the majority found it to be a bad trade.

There were still many who defended it. And many who initially thought it was bad then flipped when we got Cammy and Gionta.