Sidney the Kidney
One last time
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But that still doesn’t change the fact that he was on the PP more so than a lot of players that year. Crosby proved himself as a solid ES producer regardless later on, but ‘07 was such a high scoring year for him because of the PP, I wouldn’t even say that’s was his best season, maybe would put it as his 3rd.
Again focusing on 2007 compared to 2017, McDavid has the better season, it may not be by much, but his superior ES production mixed with his lack of team support I feel our weighs the fact that Crosby scored 20 more points, mainly because of all the PP time
I feel as though you're not even reading what I'm posting these past couple of posts. I'm literally talking about Crosby's ES production, and how the reason it's lower than McDavid's is due to less minutes at ES.
Crosby scored 59 points averaging 14:40 at ES over 79 games. McDavid scored 71 (or 72, don't have time to look up the exact number) points averaging 17:17 at ES over 82 games. Crosby's actual production per minute would put him pretty much equal to McDavid when you normalize for ES ice time.
It's not even about the PP points or his raw totals being ahead of McDavid. It's literally a discussion about how if you normalize Crosby's ES time to the same amount McDavid played last year, they're producing pretty much the same at ES.
I mean he had 85 points his first year, and followed it up as one of the top centers in the league the next year when Crosby was out. Having a guy like that on the PP with you is no doubt beneficial. Draisaitl isn’t Malkin, and will never be on his level, nort even close, especially considering that at their best, Malkin is arguably just as great as Crosby. The comparisons between those two needs to stop, because the value they both hold to their team and the impact they have is as different as night and day.
But now you're talking about the prime Malkin, not the rookie one. Rookie Malkin had 85 points in a year where there were multiple 100 point guys. Since Crosby seems to be "punished" for how high scoring that year was, why isn't Malkin's 85 points put into the same context?
I feel as though the term "relative to his peers" is only applied to Crosby in these discussions. Because Malkin "relative to his peers" produced less that year than Draisaitl "relative to his peers" produced last season. Yet you're completely dismissing that fact because of what Malkin did in subsequent seasons.