Player Discussion McDavid

theguardianII

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McDavid, GOAT, more than possible.

He is separating himself from the rest of the humans on the ice.

The two most GOAT players, not just by points, IMHO would be
Bobby Orr and McDavid, two different positions.

Orr did something that changed the game and has never been duplicated and not likely ever will be. Not just the points but wining the scoring title and his +/- numbers

McDavid is just simply making the rest of the players look like boys.

Bure did some of what McD does multiple times a game, Gretzky's hockey IQ was otherworldly as is McD's, Lemieux was a little of both but McD is like Lemieux on steroids or all of the above on roids. But McD, the new measuring stick for any player

Highlight reel stuff 5 or 6 times a game.
 

Gnome17

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Love the win tonight but what is going on with McDavid? He looked awkward as hell turning when Rasmus Andersson scored, tonight he turned awkwardly and got burnt by Sanheim badly, and then on the breakaway he did NOT want to shoot it.
He was looking behind him the whole time like he was going to drop it to someone, was afraid Oilers would have their own Blake Comeau moment for a second there.
He wants to shoot it even less than last year! And he flubbed the breakaway.
2 Assissts though, maybe hes heating up but some of his skating and his shooting are concerns.
 

Kerberos

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He's just not the same player as consistently as he used to be. Lacks the speed and stickhandling ability he once had and seems incapable of shooting the puck at all. Who knows what's up but it doesn't seem like something that's going to get better any time soon.
 
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syz

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Love the win tonight but what is going on with McDavid? He looked awkward as hell turning when Rasmus Andersson scored, tonight he turned awkwardly and got burnt by Sanheim badly, and then on the breakaway he did NOT want to shoot it.
He was looking behind him the whole time like he was going to drop it to someone, was afraid Oilers would have their own Blake Comeau moment for a second there.
He wants to shoot it even less than last year! And he flubbed the breakaway.
2 Assissts though, maybe hes heating up but some of his skating and his shooting are concerns.
Until proven otherwise I'll believe he's still playing through the same "nagging injuries" he had all of last season. Except now they're probably worse.
 

Drivesaitl

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He's just not the same player as consistently as he used to be. Lacks the speed and stickhandling ability he once had and seems incapable of shooting the puck at all. Who knows what's up but it doesn't seem like something that's going to get better any time soon.
Hand(s) obviously bothering him and he hurt it again tonight in that play on the endboards, landed hard on his wrist. He gets hacked so many times some of the artistry and fine motor control with puck probably harder now. Some speed removed too with all the cumulative hacks he's taken over a decade.

NHL takes its toll. McD is such a go to player here that has had huge minutes and has had to stir the drink for a decade. Hard to do it game in game out forever while eating constant daily punishment.

McD gives us everything he has and if you look at comments now people aren't satisfied.
 

Bryanbryoil

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Until proven otherwise I'll believe he's still playing through the same "nagging injuries" he had all of last season. Except now they're probably worse.
If so the question is why isn't he healthy? Did he try and avoid surgery like he did with his knee except this time it didn't go as well?
 

Whoshattenkirkshoes

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Until proven otherwise I'll believe he's still playing through the same "nagging injuries" he had all of last season. Except now they're probably worse.
I have to agree with this and maybe his career is just on the downswing.

This is a crazy long shot theory, but It almost looks like he has MS or the start of an auto immune disease or some shit
 

Jimmi McJenkins

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I have to agree with this and maybe his career is just on the downswing.

This is a crazy long shot theory, but It almost looks like he has MS or the start of an auto immune disease or some shit
Puts up 100 assists and 42 pts in the playoffs last year.

"Guys maybe he's just going to start to suck now, you know it's just that time"

Like what the f*** are we doing.

I'll find the Tweet, but last night was McDavid's 301st multiple point game, he passed Messier for 2nd on the team's all-time list.
 
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Stauf4Prez

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Connor timid to shoot the puck, passes off, hands are not there, wondering if he is still battling the wrist injury or something else new?
 

Soundwave

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Maybe just maybe the dude only skated like 1/2 to 1/3 of his normal off season training cycle.

He looks like someone who didn't skate much in the summer at all.

Season went very late into late June then he had a massive wedding and I would assume a honeymoon that probably basically took up all of July, and then he's said he didn't want to over train and only started skating in August, which for him is not anywhere close to his normal off-season training.

He's also a guy who I think puts too much pressure on himself and when he gets uptight, his play suffers a bit. I mean this has always been the case with him when he first came here he was kinda shit in his first 3 games because there was a ton of pressure on him to score his first goal and all that. It wasn't until that about his 4th game which was a HNIC Saturday night game against Calgary where he had like a 3 point night that he relaxed and started to show how he could dominate a game, until that point Jack Eichel was outplaying him as a rookie. When you're pressing a bit too hard it can throw your entire game off.

Even when he's playing like shit by his standards he's still a PPG player, lol.
 
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Bryanbryoil

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Maybe just maybe the dude only skated like 1/2 to 1/3 of his normal off season training cycle.

He looks like someone who didn't skate much in the summer at all.

Season went very late into late June then he had a massive wedding and I would assume a honeymoon that probably basically took up all of July, and then he's said he didn't want to over train and only started skating in August, which for him is not anywhere close to his normal off-season training.

He's also a guy who I think puts too much pressure on himself and when he gets uptight, his play suffers a bit. I mean this has always been the case with him when he first came here he was kinda shit in his first 3 games because there was a ton of pressure on him to score his first goal and all that. It wasn't until that about his 4th game which was a HNIC Saturday night game against Calgary where he had like a 3 point night that he relaxed and started to show how he could dominate a game, until that point Jack Eichel was outplaying him as a rookie. When you're pressing a bit too hard it can throw your entire game off.

Even when he's playing like shit by his standards he's still a PPG player, lol.
This x 1000. He might have anxiety or something. It seems like pressure really eats him up inside. What drives him also hinders him. I also agree that he likely cut own on his training this summer and he typically gets better as the season goes along when his stick handling gets dialed in. Wit all of this said I do worry that he may still have a lingering injury or 2. I was expecting him to come out shooting the puck a lot more and it's concerning that he's not.
 

Soundwave

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This x 1000. He might have anxiety or something. It seems like pressure really eats him up inside. What drives him also hinders him. I also agree that he likely cut own on his training this summer and he typically gets better as the season goes along when his stick handling gets dialed in. Wit all of this said I do worry that he may still have a lingering injury or 2. I was expecting him to come out shooting the puck a lot more and it's concerning that he's not.

It happens all the time. Even in junior I remember being told when he first joined the Otters under the exceptional player status or whatever he kind of struggled his first few games until he exploded and then never looked back.

In the Cup Finals he wasn't that great in the first 3 games and then exploded again as the series went on.

It just is what it is. He puts way too much pressure on himself in a new/high pressure situation, give it a bit of time and it works itself out.
 

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