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What a moronic thread. He was not even close to the guy and there were two other Oilers already ahead of him.
McDavid with a horrendous back-check
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Giving up on getting to the puck carrier and thus going to the most dangerous area for a rebound is not bad leadership. It's positional hockey
If you say so. Just seems like the Oilers as a whole play really bad positional hockey though. They're in the bottom 10 in GAA. Wonder why that is? McJesus not playing enough minutes?
You guys are so amped up to trash McDavid... look at the situation... it's a pp, puck went to the point, forward goes towards the net, defending forwards pressure to the point. Barrie blasts it into the shin pads of the forward coming out to challenge him big bounce out 2 Vegas forwards coming up nice mcdavid going down because that's how pps operates. He stops trying when it's clear that either Vegas scores or Smith makes a save and the 2 guys back retrieve the puck.
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Because their goalies f***ing suck and none of their defensemen can make a pass. Unless we're counting turnovers as passes, in which case they're all extremely good at it.
Thats the whole point!
There shouldnt be 2 other guys ahead of him, he should have been the 1st guy back.
Barrie takes a shot and gets blocked,
Barrie is facing the opposite way obviously and is in a shooting motion, theres no way he will catch William Karlsson who is already facing and skating the right direction. Barrie still had recover from shot motion and pivot the other way to skate.
No kidding, Karlsson blew right past him and made it a 2 on zero breakaway.
However Mcdavid was parallel with Karlsson when the play happened, and much like Karlsson, they were facing and skating the right way that the play was going. No pivot needed just straight hard strides and effort.
What did Mcdavid do? He took 2 strides and gave up and left Barrie hanging who obviously got smoked by Karlsson in the foot race.
The fact that Mcdavid was the 3rd guy back is the problem.
but hey if Oiler fans are fine with this type of defensive effort then who am I to object.
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Hes only the fastest player in the NHL going towards the other net.
The Oilers have really done McDavid and Dri a disservice not developing their defensive games.
The Oilers have really done McDavid and Dri a disservice not developing their defensive games.
Sorry but thats my opinion and I'm holding Mcdavid 100% accountable for that.
Even if you look closely.
When the shot block happens, RNH is on the same depth level as Mcdavid, yet RNH skates his butt off to try to get back. If Mcdavid did the same , at the lower depth level I guarantee you Karlsson doesnt get a tap in on 2 on zero breakaway
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With all due respect, I don't think you really understand how defensive coverage works. The Oilers don't want three people going back on that play nor do they want Connor McDavid pointlessly exhausting himself on a man advantage going hard back on a play he has no reasonable expectation of getting into.
They want him pretty much exactly where he was on the play so should the puck be turned over or stopped by the goaltender, a quick outlet sends McDavid back the other way with only two Vegas skater in the zone.
FerrisRox
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion but you need to acknowledge what you are claiming in the original post is quite clearly not an example of a "horrendous back check."
You don't seem to fundamentally understand how defensive coverage works. To watch that clip and arrive at the conclusion that McDavid did something wrong on that play is a very odd conclusion. Many people are trying to explain this to you in the thread, but you don't seem interested in listening.
I agree they dont want 3 people going back, There's no reason Mcdavid should have been the 3rd guy back tho. He should have been 1st guy back. Not Barrie who took the shot, and not RNH who was on same level as Mcdavid but closer the boards. Mcdavid could have easily been 1st guy back down the middle of the ice.
How did Barrie who is facing the other way after a shot and still had to pivot beat Mcdavid to the other blue line? Effort and or Defensive pride. pick one
I apologize for the grainy picture but this is my point exactly.
In this moment, Barrie just took the shot and it get blocked and the puck leaks out of the zone.
How is it possible that Barrie catches his balance from his shot, then still has to pivot before going full out skating stride beats Mcdavid to the other end? Even RNH on top of the screen is lower than Mcdavid, but he beats Mcdavid too .
Karlsson, parallel with Mcdavid here.
Some posters are defending Mcdavid for coasting because he is the 3rd guy back, but fail to see that he shouldnt have been the 3rd Oiler back he should have been the 1st.
Two other D behind him, why is he suddenly expected to be the last one back? Shows how little some people know about hockey. It is not up to the forwards to bust their ass back on a back check when on the PP when two other players are already back.
He’s also already being quarterbacking the PP for over 45 seconds at this point. Saying he should have been the first one back here makes absolutely no sense
He’s also already being quarterbacking the PP for over 45 seconds at this point. Saying he should have been the first one back here makes absolutely no sense
Exactly this. Some posters, usually fans of a certain two teams, are trying WAY too hard to bring him down.
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This play is emblematic of why McDavid has the reputation he has around here. And by that I mean McDavid has to defend more than anybody in the league because his teammates are all so f***ing terrible that they just give the other team the puck all game.
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No one is saying McDavid should have gone after Smith(the puck carrier), people are saying he should have covered Karlsson as they were next to each other when the play started.
Did you even watch the replay?
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What you are failing to see is the situation. Here is what the oilers PP does in that situation... RNH drifts back to the point when Barrie has the puck in that position and McDavid moves down to the half wall or attacks the middle. That is why RNH beat McDavid back, their motions were taking them in that direction. McDavid is flat footed because if Barrie opts not to blast a slapper into the forwards legs McDavid coming down is the passing option, or back across to RNH coming back to the blue line. The whole thing is rotating counter clockwise on the PP.
You know what, after watching it again sure the motion was a bit more stationary than usual, however it's still not as bad as all that for McDavid. Barrie is already on Karlsson, it's the guy who blocks the shot that is so far open, why is RNH back in the picture quicker? Cause he's the one with the straight race to catch him. McDavid would have had to go all the way across ice to make a difference defensively on that play. Sure he coulda tried to catch Karlsson, but to what end? Barrie is already there... The entire issue with that play is the pants on head Pejorative Slured choice to shoot by Barrie. Anything other than ass blasting a shot into a guys legs and that play doesn't come close to happening.
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