McDavid with a horrendous back-check

[Three On Zero]

Would McDavid have the wheels to keep up with Wild Bill?

Doubtful, he can’t even keep up to Kyrou

 

[FLAMESFAN]

These "lack of effort" vids are becoming so frequent, many posters don't even see the problem anymore.

Not sure how anyone could defend this.

 

[TOGuy14]

McDavid has always been subpar defensively but this play isn't the most egregious thing I've seen.

 

[Chips]

Sidney Crosby does stull like this all the time.

I've never understood why McDavid doesn't get the Crosby/Price/Toews treatment from the Canadian media. Is it because Edmonton is not a large market?

Crosby and Toews had more success probably made it easier, and Price being a goalie could have a disproportionate impact for his team the way McDavid can’t, Price almost single handedly made an okay team of skaters look like much more serious contenders. They did not look as good without him when he missed longer stretches


Sorta like Shesty rn with the Rangers (except the whole Russian thing) carrying them. If they finish higher than the oilers and he steals them a round I can see a few guys on the Rangers getting as much or more hype than McDavid with the combination of their skill and more success for storylines McDavid simply hasn’t had.

 

[ToDavid]

It's not a good look to coast in that situation but he had no chance. It's nice to draw a picture around both of them standing in the zone, but Karlsson clearly recognized break before McDavid did and by the time they're all racing there are two other Oilers in better position than McDavid.

 

[Chips]

There's already 2 other Oilers defenders back in the zone and he was flat footed on a blocked shot. If anything get mad at Barrie for launching it right into the shin pads of the guy directly in front of him.

I don’t disagree it wasn’t primarily McDavids guy, but still. He shouldn’t have been that tired, they weren’t skating that fast at all and he almost immediately was out of frame when he is plenty fast enough to catch up.

everybody with a chance should be trying to get back there, especially when one of the two guys back, your defenseman is garbage at defense AND your goalie is struggling. 2 on 2 is a legit chance. You shouldn’t be giving up free legit chances on a power play, at least attempt to get back. Show your team how to try

Usually power plays have an easier time not getting scored on despite often not having any of your teams best defensive players out is the fact you have more people, you swarm or overwhelm them.



someone please post the gif or replay from last night when an oiler passed up a shot, but at the same time an “extra” Knights back checker hauled ass back and got in the way. That difference in effort is why a team like the Knights can stay competitive even when struggling with injuries and or some struggling defensemen (at the defense part), and a “less elite” goalie in net. A goalie plenty of people acknowledged last night was given up on by the oilers.


I seriously have to wonder, Koskinen certainly isn’t a legit starter but with some confidence and a better team he could probably be a solid backup or low end 1b given some of his better displays earlier this season.

 

[Three On Zero]

I don’t disagree it wasn’t primarily McDavids guy, but still. He shouldn’t have been that tired, they weren’t skating that fast at all and he almost immediately was out of frame when he is plenty fast enough to catch up.

everybody with a chance should be trying to get back there, especially when one of the two guys back, your defenseman is garbage at defense.

Usually power plays have an easier time not getting scored on despite often not having any of your teams best defensive players out is the fact you have more people, you swarm or overwhelm them.



someone please post the gif or replay from last night when an oiler passed up a shot, but at the same time an “extra” Knights back checker hauled ass back and got in the way. That difference in effort is why a team like the Knights can stay competitive even when struggling with injuries and or some struggling defensemen (at the defense part), and a “less elite” goalie in net. A goalie plenty of people acknowledged last night was given up on by the oilers.


I seriously have to wonder, Koskinen certainly isn’t a legit starter but with some confidence and a better team he could probably be a solid backup or low end 1b given some of his better displays earlier this season.

Koskinen is absolutely a solid back up/1B on a good defensive minded team, he bails the team out quite a bit.

 

[koyvoo]

I’m not going to suggest he’s anywhere near asking out yet. But, you can’t convince me that he doesn’t at least often wonder how different things could be today if that cursed lottery ball landed elsewhere.

 

[Zerotonine]

I swear there is 2-3 oilers and or oilers players bashing threads after every game and its on going, everyone else and every other player continues to get a pass unless you are an oiler, he'll even former oilers are on praised because they are doing things on other teams now

 

[Zerotonine]

Koskinen is absolutely a solid back up/1B on a good defensive minded team, he bails the team out quite a bit.

100 percent, he doesn't have the stamina or mental game to take on a full schedule and it shows when he is getting majority of the workload

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

There's another Oiler at the same level in the opposite circle when the puck was turned over. Why was he able to skate back and not McDavid? I think everyone knows 97 is the faster skater

You mean the Oilers player who, unlike McDavid, was on the same side of the rink as Smith and STILL didn't catch him?

This is simply a bad example.

 

[Mbraunm]

McDavid didn’t have chance on that play-give him a break

 

[Vikingstad]

Op clearly doesn't understand hockey, just a poor attempt of a personal vendetta.

If op was a coach he'd probably tell all 5 skaters to attack the puck carrier cuz "effort" then follow up by yelling at all of them for leaving the other skaters wide open

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

It's not a good look to coast in that situation but he had no chance. It's nice to draw a picture around both of them standing in the zone, but Karlsson clearly recognized break before McDavid did and by the time they're all racing there are two other Oilers in better position than McDavid.

Exactly.

It's not a good look when a clip is posted on hockey forums but that's about it. There's two Oilers racing back. McDavid's job is to pick up any trailers. not skate to the net full speed to be the third Oiler trailing behind the two Knights so it looks like he's hustling when posted on hfboards.

 

[Oleksiak]

Personally, I'd put him in the press box for the next game to send the clear message that this is not acceptable. I'd also take away the C.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

EVERY player coasts on the backcheck when the rush is even.

 

[Three On Zero]

100 percent, he doesn't have the stamina or mental game to take on a full schedule and it shows when he is getting majority of the workload

He looks like a top 10 goalie some nights the next game he looks like AHL fodder.

 

[Zerotonine]

He looks like a top 10 goalie some nights the next game he looks like AHL fodder.

Some nights calling him an AHL goalie is flattering TBH. When he is on he is unreal. But there is no happy medium, he is either hot or north pole cold

 

[TheUnusedCrayon]

This thread is truly laughable. Awful, awful take.

 

[ElysiumAB]

Yes, he won a few two week tournaments with a maple leaf on his chest. How about team success with the teams he played with all year long?

This is a hockey forum, please don't move the goal posts that much. Hilarious.

 

[ottawa]

This guy is such a loser...he keeps bitching and whining about wanting to win but doesn't want to play in all 3 zones.

Literally no middle ground between hit defensive IQ and offensive IQ...goes from 0 to 100. Crosby and Ovechkin along with many other players learned to play a complete game, when will he do it?

 

[BLKHKhockey]

You mean the Oilers player who, unlike McDavid, was on the same side of the rink as Smith and STILL didn't catch him?

This is simply a bad example.

I don't disagree that it is not a great example, but Karlsson was on McD's side of the ice and they took their initial strides towards the Oilers goal at the same time. McDavid COULD have stuck with the goal scorer.

IMO, not at all solely on McDavid. However, when he has the reputation (however accurate it may be) of not playing defense, these types of plays will be highlighted.

 

[Chips]

I swear there is 2-3 oilers and or oilers players bashing threads after every game and its on going, everyone else and every other player continues to get a pass unless you are an oiler, he'll even former oilers are on praised because they are doing things on other teams now

The more threads you get pumping your tires, the more threads you get countering the “god tier player you’d take over everyone” takes when you display obvious lack of effort

 

[Oleksiak]

Some nights calling him an AHL goalie is flattering TBH. When he is on he is unreal. But there is no happy medium, he is either hot or north pole cold

He's ECHL quality overall.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

There's already 2 other Oilers defenders back in the zone and he was flat footed on a blocked shot. If anything get mad at Barrie for launching it right into the shin pads of the guy directly in front of him.

This. I have my issues with McD’s D, but this ain’t it. It’d make no sense to have 3 guys try to race back for the 2 man break, and McD isn’t in a position to do so anyways. If those two dudes can’t handle it, fine, they’re screwed, he’d add nothing but skating his ass off just to be the 3rd guy trying to cover. If a trailer had joined, that’s his guy, he doesn’t need to Apollo Ono it just for the same end result in this situation.