Maybe time for HF to look in the mirror and shut this one down.

[BE Friend]

After another union member goes down. Stephan Peat. I never even heard the name before , there is a 2017 thread start for him HERE of HF. Real sad case. Yes, I'll enjoy a REAL scrap once in a while. A good clean hit is way more satisfying to me now vs 2 guys hugging for 30 seconds. There are the occasional fighters and the enforcers union, THOSE guys are the ones getting chewed up and spit out. They all roll the dice. Lotta guys in this category are rolling craps. Check out the full legit JAMA study on this employment group.

Eliminate fighting no. Better health and safety protocols - yes. These guys have the riskiest job in the league. Treat it like a insurance table. Every player and team should be upping the contribution to the fund by a 10,000% A guy needs 24/7 care?
part of the contract terms.

Woke. Or just realistic? I know nothing will happen until the NEXT class action suit comes with a harsh financial penalty that really hurts the owners,


Article: The Penalty for Hockey’s Enforcers May Be Premature Death
STUDY : Fighting and Penalty Minutes Associated With Long-term Mortality Among NHL Players

Most important table:
Mi and Neo are heart attack and cancers, next three almost exclusive to the enforcers.

Click to read more...

 

[vandymeer13]

Shut up. If you've never heard of stephen peat your under 25 or not a real hockey fan. These guys are adults and know the risks.

 

[Sheppy]

Here we go.

 

[HairyKneel]

After another union member goes down. Stephan Peat. I never even heard the name before , there is a 2017 thread start for him HERE of HF. Real sad case. Yes, I'll enjoy a REAL scrap once in a while. A good clean hit is way more satisfying to me now vs 2 guys hugging for 30 seconds. There are the occasional fighters and the enforcers union, THOSE guys are the ones getting chewed up and spit out. They all roll the dice. Lotta guys in this category are rolling craps. Check out the full legit JAMA study on this employment group.

Eliminate fighting no. Better health and safety protocols - yes. These guys have the riskiest job in the league. Treat it like a insurance table. Every player and team should be upping the contribution to the fund by a 10,000% A guy needs 24/7 care?
part of the contract terms.

Woke. Or just realistic? I know nothing will happen until the NEXT class action suit comes with a harsh financial penalty that really hurts the owners,


Article: The Penalty for Hockey’s Enforcers May Be Premature Death
STUDY : Fighting and Penalty Minutes Associated With Long-term Mortality Among NHL Players

Most important table:
Mi and Neo are heart attack and cancers, next three almost exclusive to the enforcers.
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Or just don't read the thread.

 

[Grinner]

Boo! Boo this man.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I am missing the connection between the title and the content of the OP.

I don’t want to minimize the very real damage that fighting for a living can do. But I am curious as to if there’s a decent amount of confirmation bias going on with enforcers and hockey players that end up in dire straits. Who’s to say that some of them didn’t have mental health issues from long before the days of being an enforcer? We’re so quick to instantly associate their job with homelessness/addiction. As if that isn’t a place one can pretty easily end up regardless of profession.

And no, I’m not doubting the legitmacy of the impacts of repeated concussions and CTE. I’m just saying that there is more to a lot of these guys than our distant view allows us to see.

 

[MartyOwns]

Shut up. If you've never heard of stephen peat your under 25 or not a real hockey fan. These guys are adults and know the risks.

false dilemmas, shoddy grammar and gatekeeping...all in one post! well done.

stephen peat was a literal nobody in the aggregate of professional hockey. besides that, he was born in 1980 and absolutely did not know the risks, because the risks weren't well-known at that time.

i didn't even read all of OP's post, and i don't have a dog in this fight, but i felt the need to return the favor and tell you to shut up.

 

[Gilmour1996]

I think anyone over the age of 15 (birth year has nothing to do with it, common sense does) should be well aware that getting hit in the noggin can't be good for your long-term brain health. Same thing applies to hitting others in the noggin. Better pay than pumping gas though.

Things you can do that might help your guilt:

1. Charitable donation to CTE research
2. Last Will and Testament to CTE research
3. Letters of condolence to affected families
4. Watch less physical sports such as golf, ladies hockey, etc. and avoid watching football, soccer, men's hockey, boxing, MMA, baseball, basketball, etc.

Things that might help with your guilt but will not solve any problems:

1. Donating a few minutes of your time whining like a wokie on a free internet forum about injuries in pro sports.

 

[BE Friend]

Shut up. If you've never heard of stephen peat your under 25 or not a real hockey fan. These guys are adults and know the risks.

way over 25. What is the definition of a "real" hockey fan?

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Be nice to each other, folks. You want me in this thread about as much as I want to be here.

 

[DaaaaB's]

way over 25. What is the definition of a "real" hockey fan?

And what would shutting down this subforum accomplish?

 

[BE Friend]

And what would shutting down this subforum accomplish?

It's cringy. Ya all yuks and woops until ANOTHER former fighter goes to play pac man on the highway because shadows are chasing him. Things evolve. Attitudes change. What would it accomplish? Nothing other than discussion about why these guys don't get TOP TIER health care for life. Better just to yuk it up on who has the best punching power. Still waiting for the "real hockey fan" definition.

 

[DaaaaB's]

It's cringy. Ya all yuks and woops until ANOTHER former fighter goes to play pac man on the highway because shadows are chasing him. Things evolve. Attitudes change. What would it accomplish? Nothing other than discussion about why these guys don't get TOP TIER health care for life. Better just to yuk it up on who has the best punching power. Still waiting for the "real hockey fan" definition.

Shutting the forum down actually wouldn't accomplish that. Starting on a thread on that topic would but it's not like anyone is going to disagree. If the forum bothers you so much then I'd suggest ignoring it. Seems pretty simple.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

If the forum bothers you so much then I'd suggest ignoring it. Seems pretty simple.

I'd also suggest ignoring BE Friend.
Concern trollling is still trolling.

 

[Leafs87]

Thank you for stopping by

 

[Sheppy]

It's cringy. Ya all yuks and woops until ANOTHER former fighter goes to play pac man on the highway because shadows are chasing him. Things evolve. Attitudes change. What would it accomplish? Nothing other than discussion about why these guys don't get TOP TIER health care for life. Better just to yuk it up on who has the best punching power. Still waiting for the "real hockey fan" definition.

We're discussing hockey fights. It's pretty simple.

Would you like to discuss who has the best punching power? I'd gladly have that conversation with you.

 

[BE Friend]

We're discussing hockey fights. It's pretty simple.

Would you like to discuss who has the best punching power? I'd gladly have that conversation with you.

So was I. Simple.

..., AND still waiting for the 'real hockey fan' definition.

 

[Sheppy]

So was I. Simple.

..., AND still waiting for the 'real hockey fan' definition.

No, you were pushing an agenda. You were calling for a shut-down of this section.

 

[wmupreds]

For what it's worth I've watched a lot of hockey, am well over 25 and had no idea who Stephen Peat was. There are probably a lot of other 130 game NHLers (enforcer or not) I and others would not remember, even if I watched them play at some point. Not sure why that would seem weird.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Old time Eddie Shore Hockey….

 

[DaaaaB's]

So was I. Simple.

..., AND still waiting for the 'real hockey fan' definition.

If it bothers you so much maybe try asking the guy who said it to you instead of asking others who didn't say it.

 

[Slats432]

This world is generally soft, and it doesn't surprise me to see this thread. Although it is akin to trying to shutdown the NFL. If you don't know that crashing your helmet into another is bad for you, then not much that can be done for you.

Fighting is a necessary evil in hockey. Intimidation, dirty play require an outlet. If they ever ban fighting in hockey, hop on back and make the request again. It might gain more traction.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

This world is generally soft, and it doesn't surprise me to see this thread. Although it is akin to trying to shutdown the NFL. If you don't know that crashing your helmet into another is bad for you, then not much that can be done for you.

Fighting is a necessary evil in hockey. Intimidation, dirty play require an outlet. If they ever ban fighting in hockey, hop on back and make the request again. It might gain more traction.

Fighting is banned in the European leagues though right? How are they able to cope without an outlet for intimidation and dirty play?

 

[Slats432]

Fighting is banned in the European leagues though right? How are they able to cope without an outlet for intimidation and dirty play?

Maybe those offended should just not whine about a legal part of the game that most of us watch and if they don't like it then don't come to this particular board.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Maybe those offended should just not whine about a legal part of the game that most of us watch and if they don't like it then don't come to this particular board.

I’m not offended I’m just pointing out your error in reasoning