Prospect Info: May 2024 Red Wings Prospect voting #4

[Henkka]

Cossa wins the 3rd round.

1. C Nate Danielson - 39.8% (1st round, 9th overall, 2023)
2. RD Axel Sandin-Pellikka - 46.0% (1st round, 17th overall, 2023)
3. G Sebastian Cossa - 49.0% (15th overall, 1st round 2021 draft)

Albert Johansson and Amadeus Lombardi are the adds. Next highest from last year voting.

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[izlez]

Nothing against Kasper, but Mazur outscored him in the regular season and is outscoring him in the playoffs.

The choice is clear.

 

[schuelma24]

Nothing against Kasper, but Mazur outscored him in the regular season and is outscoring him in the playoffs.

The choice is clear.

He's 2 years older than Kasper?

I really like Mazur and think he's had a good year, but I don't think that's a very fair comparison.

 

[SantosHalper]

Whatcha gonna do brother? When Marcomaniacs runs wild on you!

 

[Konnan511]

Kasper, Augustine, Mazur, then AlJo are my next votes.

 

[Realgud]

Kasper, Augustine, Mazur, then AlJo are my next votes.

Exactly the same for me.

Actually, I'd consider Buchelnikov after Augustine but that's just me. I think him, Mazur and Aljo are in a similar tier.

So on that note... add Buchelnikov next.

 

[izlez]

He's 2 years older than Kasper?

I really like Mazur and think he's had a good year, but I don't think that's a very fair comparison.

It was not my intention to make a fair comparison.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Kasper.

Add Gibson.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Mazur easy

 

[Gniwder]

He's 2 years older than Kasper?

I really like Mazur and think he's had a good year, but I don't think that's a very fair comparison.

2 years older and can't seem to bulk up to NHL level size. 22 YO prospect can't use the "still growing" excuse for not being able to gain some weight. I still have doubts that Mazur's game translates to the NHL against bigger players. Look at Czarnik, his game doesn't translate at all.

Went with Trey, until Kasper/Mazur show they're more than bottom 6 forwards, I'm not gonna get excited.

Add the kids that signed, Buium, Finnie, and Gibson along with Buch.

 

[Frk It]

I like Mazur a good deal, but I'd still give the nod pretty easily to Kasper.

Was debating who to suggest for the add. Buchelnikov, Buium, or NDN. If NDN stays healthy next year, I am pretty confident he will sky rocket up the prospect rankings.

Guess I'll say add Buium. (Look forward to having both brothers in these rankings )

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I like Mazur a good deal, but I'd still give the nod pretty easily to Kasper.

Was debating who to suggest for the add. Buchelnikov, Buium, or NDN. If NDN stays healthy next year, I am pretty confident he will sky rocket up the prospect rankings.

Guess I'll say add Buium. (Look forward to having both brothers in these rankings )

I really hope we add a forward

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Kasper, Augustine, Mazur, then AlJo are my next votes.

Samesies. And that’s a realgud group.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I like Mazur a good deal, but I'd still give the nod pretty easily to Kasper.

Was debating who to suggest for the add. Buchelnikov, Buium, or NDN. If NDN stays healthy next year, I am pretty confident he will sky rocket up the prospect rankings.

Guess I'll say add Buium. (Look forward to having both brothers in these rankings )

Detroit can only pick as high as 5 if they win the lottery.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Kasper...easy

 

[Tetsuo]

Mazur is definitely my vote. It's neck and neck with him and Kasper but he "plays the right way" just like Kasper, but I think he's got more potential as a goal scorer than Kasper does. Excited to have both though, we're going to be really hard to play against when they move up.

 

[NickH8]

Mazur is definitely my vote. It's neck and neck with him and Kasper but he "plays the right way" just like Kasper, but I think he's got more potential as a goal scorer than Kasper does. Excited to have both though, we're going to be really hard to play against when they move up.

Man how wrong we all were on Mazur. From Draper nepotism pick that is never gonna be more than a 4th liner to being ranked higher than a 9th overall pick by some.

 

[14ari13]

How about this Toumisto?

 

[letsgowings9999]

2 years older and can't seem to bulk up to NHL level size. 22 YO prospect can't use the "still growing" excuse for not being able to gain some weight. I still have doubts that Mazur's game translates to the NHL against bigger players. Look at Czarnik, his game doesn't translate at all.

Went with Trey, until Kasper/Mazur show they're more than bottom 6 forwards, I'm not gonna get excited.

Add the kids that signed, Buium, Finnie, and Gibson along with Buch.

What's mazer's official weight ??? If hes anorexic and something good can be had if hes thrown in a package I'd consider it

As much as he gets shit on Elmer's 6'8 and I think hed play better in the nhl than the ahl and can pop 15 at least . If mazur's still like 165-170 I don't know man

 

[Pavels Dog]

2 years older and can't seem to bulk up to NHL level size. 22 YO prospect can't use the "still growing" excuse for not being able to gain some weight. I still have doubts that Mazur's game translates to the NHL against bigger players. Look at Czarnik, his game doesn't translate at all.

If size was such an issue I don't think he would translate so easily from NCAA to AHL. That's a bigger jump than AHL to NHL.
If Mazur is able to process the game at NHL speed he'll be fine.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

Kasper, for now at least, lots of evaluating to be done before training camp opens.

 

[Gniwder]

What's mazer's official weight ??? If hes anorexic and something good can be had if hes thrown in a package I'd consider it

As much as he gets shit on Elmer's 6'8 and I think hed play better in the nhl than the ahl and can pop 15 at least . If mazur's still like 165-170 I don't know man

175.

Carter Mazur

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For reference, Dekeyser was listed at 183.

If size was such an issue I don't think he would translate so easily from NCAA to AHL. That's a bigger jump than AHL to NHL.
If Mazur is able to process the game at NHL speed he'll be fine.

No, AHL to NHL is a much bigger jump than top tier NCAA to AHL. Look at Hirose. The elite college players skip the AHL altogether, like Larkin and Makar.

As for size being a concern, look at the difference in stats between NHL and AHL for Czarnik this season. He's top line AHLer and useless in the NHL.

ZAR had a really slow start in GR, take away his first 14 games and he's got 29 pts in 47 games which is on par with Mazur and Kasper. Mazur and Kasper need to develop more, otherwise they won't have any more NHL impact than ZAR.

ZAR had 163 hits last season with Toronto which would have put him second on this team behind Seider this season. I'd rather have "grit" from a larger player, Mazur and Kasper have to show that they have more to offer than ZAR in every aspect of the game..

 

[letsgowings9999]

Um think hes 6 feet? Like to see him get to 185-190 if possible

Get him to eat some bbq meats all summer and off the vegan shit lol

 

[Frk It]

Not nearly as concerned about playing weight for forwards as I would be for defenseman.

And when talking about Mazur specifically, the guy you look at who had a ton of success in the NHL with a similar frame who played a similar game is Wayne Simmonds.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Huge Wallinder guy still, love the tools and think he will evolve. With that said at this point I am convinced Mazur is the third guy on a first or second line. He just shows up in all the right areas and is a complete pain in the ass with skill. He has first line upside to me so he is the pick.