Max Pacioretty

[One Horse Town]

I say no. Thoughts?

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[SirKillalot]

If the contract is cheaper & short, and doesn't cut off from Seider/Raymond or hindering Berggren (which also have to be re-signed...) to be given a chance in the lineup then sure. If it goes south, can always put him on waivers and promote a young guy.

That being said, a lot of uncertainties with him, so it would be a gamble.

 

[norrisnick]

We had a Max Pacioretty at home...


The Max Pacioretty at home.

 

[Euro Twins]

That's a hard no from me

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Nah.

 

[Snuggs]

Sure, minimum. Sure.

Can always waive him and likely to get picked up if Red Wings want a young gun and they're clearly better.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

If the contract is cheaper & short, and doesn't cut off from Seider/Raymond or hindering Berggren (which also have to be re-signed...) to be given a chance in the lineup then sure. If it goes south, can always put him on waivers and promote a young guy.

That being said, a lot of uncertainties with him, so it would be a gamble.

Honestly, as long as Seider and Raymond are signed, I don't care. Berggren to me is another in a long line of Taro Hirose, Andreas Athanasiou, Jan Mursak, Stacy Roest, Temmu Pulkkinen, Tomas Jurco, Filip Zadina of who gives a shit whether we sign him.

Like, I'm not going to lose sleep if Berggren gets dealt or signed away. I won't be thrilled if we get nothing for him, but honestly, if Jonatan Berggren is a make or break prospect for this team, they're way further behind than any of us think they are.

 

[Pavels Dog]

4-5 years, 6-8 mil would make sense. Good lockerroom guy.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

4-5 years, 6-8 mil would make sense. Good lockerroom guy.

Ok, that's a joke. Max Pac of like 8 years ago, I do that contract in a second. But broken down ol' codger Pacioretty? He gets league minimum (or the waiver $ contract, what is that, 1.1 million now?) so he can be buried and quietly retire if he's not up to snuff.

 

[Ulysses31]

Honestly, as long as Seider and Raymond are signed, I don't care. Berggren to me is another in a long line of Taro Hirose, Andreas Athanasiou, Jan Mursak, Stacy Roest, Temmu Pulkkinen, Tomas Jurco, Filip Zadina of who gives a shit whether we sign him.

Like, I'm not going to lose sleep if Berggren gets dealt or signed away. I won't be thrilled if we get nothing for him, but honestly, if Jonatan Berggren is a make or break prospect for this team, they're way further behind than any of us think they are.

berggren more of a tatar nyquist imo

 

[Euro Twins]

Ok, that's a joke. Max Pac of like 8 years ago, I do that contract in a second. But broken down ol' codger Pacioretty? He gets league minimum (or the waiver $ contract, what is that, 1.1 million now?) so he can be buried and quietly retire if he's not up to snuff.

When*

 

[Henkka]

WE NEED A POLL

 

[ricky0034]

Honestly, as long as Seider and Raymond are signed, I don't care. Berggren to me is another in a long line of Taro Hirose, Andreas Athanasiou, Jan Mursak, Stacy Roest, Temmu Pulkkinen, Tomas Jurco, Filip Zadina of who gives a shit whether we sign him.

Like, I'm not going to lose sleep if Berggren gets dealt or signed away. I won't be thrilled if we get nothing for him, but honestly, if Jonatan Berggren is a make or break prospect for this team, they're way further behind than any of us think they are.

berggren more of a tatar nyquist imo

I think he could be an AA or he could be a Tatar/Nyquist

not really the end of the world either way to lose I suppose but it feels like asset mismanagement not to even really give him a chance to ever show which he is

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

I think he could be an AA or he could be a Tatar/Nyquist

not really the end of the world either way to lose I suppose but it feels like asset mismanagement not to even really give him a chance to ever show which he is

Fair enough. I suppose I'm just of the opinion (and I know it's kind of unpopular) that you make your own chance. Like the Wings would have preferred to keep Larkin down. He was so good that they couldn't. They wouldn't bring Raymond up if Mrs. Blashill didn't see how he popped out off the roster.

I'm a big proponent on a young kid not getting a leg up on making the NHL just because he's younger. Would I be bummed if we didn't sign Pacioretty and kept Berggern? Absolutely not. Let's go Jonny Burgers. But if they don't bend over backwards to keep Burgers, I don't really care either. He's a dime a dozen all offense, no defense forward (and no, that one play where he dove and poke-checked it away from the guy on a rush does not mean he's good defensively) which are the kinds of guys that bounce around the league looking for the next team to give them a one-year deal.

But basically, you say Patches at league minimum or Berggren at like 1.5M? Im taking Patches at league minimum almost every time.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Wonder if they rumors are being floated to get Berggren to sign what Stevie wants.

Either way, no on Max. Would rather that roster spot go to Mazur or Danielson. Get your retirement gig somewhere else Max.

 

[jaster]

Raymond replacement?

 

[jkutswings]

Raymond replacement?

 

[dalem177]

Raymond replacement?

For that, you get...

 

[GreatGordie9]

Wonder if they rumors are being floated to get Berggren to sign what Stevie wants.

Either way, no on Max. Would rather that roster spot go to Mazur or Danielson. Get your retirement gig somewhere else Max.

Max, is an old 35 meaning he has a long history of injuries. Give the roster spot to one of the young guys. No to Max

 

[saska sault]

If he is minimum then no issue. He can go to Grand Rapids or retire if he doesnt get claimed. It wont be blocking Berggren, Jonatan would get the tie breaker for the pure reason of asset management like others questioned earlier, having further upside. Max could be a useful vet in the right situation nonetheless.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

For that, you get...

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The curse of Jimmy Howard fingers?

 

[Bench]

The curse of Jimmy Howard fingers?

Kessel.

 

[Oddbob]

No, interest at all.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

If the other rumor is Hoffman, give me Patches for sure here. Not sure he has anything left, really down to the injuries. He can play netfront... Raymond, Kane, DeBrincat, Tarasenko, what is the actual role for the add matters when looking at these. Patches provides elements we need more of, assuming we believe he is actually healthy enough to begin with.

 

[Astyanax]

Honestly, as long as Seider and Raymond are signed, I don't care. Berggren to me is another in a long line of Taro Hirose, Andreas Athanasiou, Jan Mursak, Stacy Roest, Temmu Pulkkinen, Tomas Jurco, Filip Zadina of who gives a shit whether we sign him.

Like, I'm not going to lose sleep if Berggren gets dealt or signed away. I won't be thrilled if we get nothing for him, but honestly, if Jonatan Berggren is a make or break prospect for this team, they're way further behind than any of us think they are.

Agreed, but I do hope for the best. If he goes he goes, but I think he is at least worth something as through in. Can't just let him walk, right!!