Maurice Richard Trophy Tournament (1995-Present) Round 3: 2024 Auston Matthews vs 2009 Alexander Ovechkin

[blundluntman]

MATCHUP #1 (Round 3): Auston Matthews (2024) vs Alexander Ovechkin (2009)

Auston Matthews (2023-24):

Games Played	Goals	Even Strength Goals	Power Play Goals	League Wide Goals Per Game
81	69	51	18	3.11

Alexander Ovechkin (2008-09):

Games Played	Goals	Even Strength Goals	Power Play Goals	League Wide Goals Per Game
79	56	36	19	2.91

Round 3 Matchups
24 Matthews vs 09 Ovechkin
23 McDavid vs 12 Stamkos
21 Matthews vs 08 Ovi
00 Bure vs 96 Lemieux

Round 2 Results

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[Zuluss]

Leads over the peers would probably be more informative than average goals per game, because the latter assume Matthews|OV peer was an average skater.

For example, #2 in goal-scoring was at 57 in 23/24 and at 46 in 08/09. So, Matthews was 21% ahead of #2 and OV was 22% ahead of his #2 - virtual tie with a slight edge to OV.

Upd. #5 was at 49 in 23/24 and at 40 in 08/09 - 41% lead Matthews, 40% lead OV.
#10 was at 44 in 23/24 and at 39 in 08/09 - 57% lead Matthews, 44% lead OV
#20 was at 37 in 23/24 and at 33 in 08/09 - 86% lead Matthews, 70% lead OV

So kind of depends on who the peer is - they look similar compared to goal-scoring stars of their eras, but Matthews has a larger edge over "just a very good goal-scorer" of an era.

 

[The90]

Leads over the peers would probably be more informative than average goals per game, because the latter assume Matthews|OV peer was an average skater.

For example, #2 in goal-scoring was at 57 in 23/24 and at 46 in 08/09. So, Matthews was 21% ahead of #2 and OV was 22% ahead of his #2 - virtual tie with a slight edge to OV.

I’ll take the 15 more even strength goals + defensive play, thanks

 

[Zuluss]

I’ll take the 15 more even strength goals + defensive play, thanks

I don't think the Richard tournament asks about defensive play, we are supposed to look at goal-scoring only.
But if we are allowed to talk about things not relevant to the voting, I'd rather take the season with the Hart/Lindsay.

 

[The90]

I don't think the Richard tournament asks about defensive play, we are supposed to look at goal-scoring only.
But if we are allowed to talk about things not relevant to the voting, I'd rather take the season with the Hart/Lindsay.

Do they ask about more goals even without being a black hole defensively? I’m new to this.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Do they ask about more goals even without being a black hole defensively? I’m new to this.

08-09 Ovechkin didn't need to play defense because he was so much f***ing better than everyone else. He tilted the ice.

This isn't waiting for the one-timer at the top of the circle OV. 08-09 was still prime/peak/best in the world OV.

Did you watch him that season?

 

[Zuluss]

I wonder if anyone can do an analysis of how they did against PO/non-PO teams.
I believe we are not allowed to bring the real PO into the picture, but maybe 10 goals in 14 games vs. 1 goal in 5 games were predictable from RS stats.