Proposal: Matthews+ for McDavid

[Jumptheshark]

Before you lose your minds, this is assuming McDavid says he is not going to re-sign in EDM early after they lose to the Stars this postseason. So Edm then has the decision to go for one more run with McDavid or Rantanen it and move him now before you lose him for nothing potentially. I am also assuming both Tavares and Marner are gone so lots of money to spend and TOR gives McDavid 8x$17 or whatever high amount you want to put here.

Obviously this would break the NHL internet, but what else does TOR have to add, if anything, to Matthews for an extended McDavid (not just a rental). Inserting Matthews into EDM keeps them in contention mode, but can easily argue is a downgrade over McDavid.

Matthews - $13.25 for 3 more years
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McDavid - Extends with TOR 8 years
Tanev - $2.5M for 5 more years

1) You have Tanev on the wrong side
2) Tanev + Matthews does not get you McDavid.

Why?Since Matthews has joined the league McDavid has 1034 pts vs Matthews 727 pts or 307 more pts or being on the ice for 307 more goals.

Tanev is 35 and he has played a lot of hockey and has a full NMC

Oilers trade McDavid with one year left? they will get more than the fact in 3 years the key guy of the deal leaves via UFA.

IF IF IF IF IF the oiler are forced to trade McDavid because they will be unable to sign him? they will do a quantity vs quality type trade where they try to address other part of the line up. Oilers have Leon, Hyman, Kane, and Nuge to step up. They need help in net and on the back end and getting a 35 year old Tanev even at 2.5? that is about 10 years too old for what the oilers will need

 

[Barsky]

I gave my head a shake and it still doesn’t make sense. Why would McDavid choose to go to Toronto?

Ever take a peak at where he was born?

 

[Community]

Why would McDavid leave his BFF/one of the top Stanley Cup contenders to go play for a team that’s won just 2 playoff rounds in the last 20 years?

I personally don't think he will leave Edmonton, but let's be honest, it's McDavid that makes the Oilers a legitimate Stanley Cup contender, not the rest of the team.

Replace this year's version of Matthews with McDavid and the Leafs are a much better team and I'd be willing to bet they get by Florida.

Replace the #1 guy on ay other team with McDavid and I'm sure there are 10+ teams that would end up as better contenders than the current Oilers.

He could also go to a bunch of teams as a UFA and increase his likelihood of winning a cup even if they have to make some moves to fit in his cap. He's that good.


As I mentioned before, I think he stays with the Oilers until becoming a UFA or re-signs. A trade seems incredibly unlikely.

If he moves on, whichever team he signs for likely becomes the immediate Stanley Cup favourite.

 

[Craig Button]

Leafs can just wait one more season for McDavid without losing Matthews.

However the Oilers should consider Nylander and a pick for McDavid next TD

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Leafs can just wait one more season for McDavid without losing Matthews.

However the Oilers should consider Nylander and a pick for McDavid next TD

Why on earth would McDavid leave the Oilers to go to the Toronto gong show?

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Ever take a peak at where he was born?

For sure. I’m still waiting for Sakic and Niedermeyer to sign in Vancouver. Fortunately Bedard and Celebrini are on their way soon!

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Done

 

[Craig Button]

Why on earth would McDavid leave the Oilers to go to the Toronto gong show?

Why would he stay at the gong show in Edmonton???

at least you can have Nylander and a pick before he leaves for nothing.

There’s nothing there for him to stay

 

[The Nuge]

I personally don't think he will leave Edmonton, but let's be honest, it's McDavid that makes the Oilers a legitimate Stanley Cup contender, not the rest of the team.

Replace this year's version of Matthews with McDavid and the Leafs are a much better team and I'd be willing to bet they get by Florida.

Replace the #1 guy on ay other team with McDavid and I'm sure there are 10+ teams that would end up as better contenders than the current Oilers.

He could also go to a bunch of teams as a UFA and increase his likelihood of winning a cup even if they have to make some moves to fit in his cap. He's that good.


As I mentioned before, I think he stays with the Oilers until becoming a UFA or re-signs. A trade seems incredibly unlikely.

If he moves on, whichever team he signs for likely becomes the immediate Stanley Cup favourite.

I don’t agree with that in the slightest. If McDavid wants to play with a comparable top end talent to what he’s got in Edmonton, his choices are Colorado (who don’t have the capspace for him) and Tampa (who don’t have the capspace for him). Everyone always acts like you can just add him to another team’s current roster without removing anyone, and it’s just not true. And it’s not just one player you’re taking away to make room for him. You need to clear like 15+ million in cap. So for Tampa, that’s like trading away Point and Guentzel.

 

[Barsky]

For sure. I’m still waiting for Sakic and Niedermeyer to sign in Vancouver. Fortunately Bedard and Celebrini are on their way soon!

It happens, hence why Spezza signed in Toronto, Giroux in Ottawa, etc... You couldn't think of a reason, but that is a very obvious one

 

[nergish]

Matthews for EP40 + 15OA ++

Build around Nylander and Pettersson’s Swedish connection.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Edmonton don't do that lol

The difference between Matthews and McDavid ain't f***ing Tanev
Maybe if you add Knies on top of Tanev and Matthews?

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It happens, hence why Spezza signed in Toronto, Giroux in Ottawa, etc... You couldn't think of a reason, but that is a very obvious one

Sure. Spezza was near retirement though.
The home town thing is really overrated imo. NY and LA and the Florida teams are bigger draws for players in their primes.

 

[General Fanager]

Why would he stay at the gong show in Edmonton???

at least you can have Nylander and a pick before he leaves for nothing.

There’s nothing there for him to stay

A trip to the finals last season and in the final 4 this year. The team he is currently on has a legit chance to win each year. Toronto doesn't at all. Even if he does choose to leave there is no realistic reason he would choose Toronto.

You call Edmonton a gong show and expect him to sign to an even bigger gong show.....keep dreaming

 

[Barsky]

Sure. Spezza was near retirement though.
The home town thing is really overrated imo. NY and LA and the Florida teams are bigger draws for players in their primes.

For sure, the weather and no taxes, but Toronto is still a huge draw given the endless endorsements opportunities, not to mention the (flawed) notion that he thinks he could make the difference and be a god in his hometown forever. Not saying he thinks that necessarily, but it would be understandable and not unheard of

 

[Barsky]

A trip to the finals last season and in the final 4 this year. The team he is currently on has a legit chance to win each year. Toronto doesn't at all. Even if he does choose to leave there is no realistic reason he would choose Toronto.

You call Edmonton a gong show and expect him to sign to an even bigger gong show.....keep dreaming

They only do because of him. Remove him from Edmonton and it's Drai all by himself in front of a bad D and a bad goalie. Hell, remove the history of winning and Edmonton is basically Winnipeg

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Why would he stay at the gong show in Edmonton???

at least you can have Nylander and a pick before he leaves for nothing.

There’s nothing there for him to stay

Oh for sure. He can leave a team that made the SCF last year and is in the WCF this year and go to a team that…….checks notes…hasn’t made it out of the second round in decades.
But hey everyone loves to dream!

 

[Craig Button]

A trip to the finals last season and in the final 4 this year. The team he is currently on has a legit chance to win each year. Toronto doesn't at all. Even if he does choose to leave there is no realistic reason he would choose Toronto.

You call Edmonton a gong show and expect him to sign to an even bigger gong show.....keep dreaming

Edmonton has an easy path to the Finals.

They have bad goaltending and bad defense and still make it pretty easily.

Edmonton has one final year to build a championship before he leaves.

Now do I think it’s going to be Toronto. No.

However this thread is about Matthews+ for McDavid. And there’s no point in doing that since McDavid will be leaving Edmonton in a year

 

[Craig Button]

Oh for sure. He can leave a team that made the SCF last year and is in the WCF this year and go to a team that…….checks notes…hasn’t made it out of the second round in decades.
But hey everyone loves to dream!

The thread is about Matthews+ for McDavid.

There’s no point in trading for McDavid when he’s simply just gonna leave Edmonton next season.


Why do people have poor reading comprehension

 

[Community]

I don’t agree with that in the slightest. If McDavid wants to play with a comparable top end talent to what he’s got in Edmonton, his choices are Colorado (who don’t have the capspace for him) and Tampa (who don’t have the capspace for him). Everyone always acts like you can just add him to another team’s current roster without removing anyone, and it’s just not true. And it’s not just one player you’re taking away to make room for him. You need to clear like 15+ million in cap. So for Tampa, that’s like trading away Point and Guentzel.

Do you really think that only Tampa and Colorado have equivalent offenses to a McDavid-less Edmonton? That's absurd. Edmonton has 1 forward that scored over 50pts last year not named McDavid...

Either way, I was referring to an overall team. McDavid wouldnt care if he goes to another team with as good an offense as the Oilers... he would care if the team is better overall (i.e., including defense and goaltending).

In my opinion, all of the following would be better contenders next year than the current McDavid Oilers (who are still good enough to win a cup this year or next) by replacing their top forward and using a portion of the increased capspace next year to fit in McDavid:

Colorado: Replace Mackinnon
Florida: Replace Barkov
Tampa: Replace Kuch or Point
Toronto: Replace Matthews
Dallas: Replace Rantanen
Carolina: Replace Aho
Vegas: Replace Eichel

Additional teams could do it by replacing 2 other players (e.g., Fiala and Kopitar).

If you want to wait to UFA, Toronto has capspace upcoming and could save it to next year by offering 1 year contracts to UFAs (like they did 2 years ago) and I'm sure multiple other teams will use that and/or the currently exploding cap to help fit in McDavid. Multiple other teteam also have big UFAs coming up too (Eichel, Panarin, Kaprizov, etc.) so theyll have most of the capspace right there if McDavid wants to join those teams.

It's also easier to create capspace next year by moving top 6 forwards for futures which is an easy pill to swallow if you know McDavid wants to sign with you.


Again, ill reiterate that I don't think he'll move and he's part of Edmontons team so I'm not slamming Edmonton.

However, if he has more series where he puts up crazy numbers and they let in a ridiculous number of goals it might be easy to say "If I go to a better rounded team it'll be easier to get a cup". So yes, there are lots of teams that aren't going as far as Edmonton now that could add McDavid through trade this upcoming year or UFA in 2026 and be stronger contenders than the current Oilers.

 

[General Fanager]

Edmonton has an easy path to the Finals.

They have bad goaltending and bad defense and still make it pretty easily.

Edmonton has one final year to build a championship before he leaves.

Now do I think it’s going to be Toronto. No.

However this thread is about Matthews+ for McDavid. And there’s no point in doing that since McDavid will be leaving Edmonton in a year

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Also The Oilers did not have an easy path to the finals last year and had it tough this year also. I do not know what bizzaro hockey world you are in but here in reality there is no reason to leave Edmonton. Unless it is for personal reasons because there is no serious contender that has a better chance than Edmonton AND would have the cap space for him.

 

[Craig Button]

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Also The Oilers did not have an easy path to the finals last year and had it tough this year also. I do not know what bizzaro hockey world you are in but here in reality there is no reason to leave Edmonton. Unless it is for personal reasons because there is no serious contender that has a better chance than Edmonton AND would have the cap space for him.

 

[The don godfather]

Oilers need to trade McDavid pronto if he loses cup again hes outta here .

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I wouldn't give up anything for McDavid. I'd just hope to sign him as a UFA for free.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Why would he stay at the gong show in Edmonton???

at least you can have Nylander and a pick before he leaves for nothing.

There’s nothing there for him to stay

My favourite stat to come out of this spring is the Oilers have won as many playoff series in the last month as Toronto has in the last two decades.

There are gongshows, and then there are GONGSHOWS.