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Injury Report: Matthews - Day to Day - Placed on IR
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TSN's Hockey Insiders discuss the latest on Toronto’s injured captain, Predators GM Barry Trotz explaining his 'rebuild' comment, the focus for the Montreal Canadiens, an update on cut-resistant equipment in the NHL, and the NCAA lifting its ban on CHL players.
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The concern over Auston Matthews' injury has ratcheted up after he missed practice again on Thursday. What is your understanding of Matthews' timeline?
Johnston: I don't see any reason for anyone to freak out or panic too much just yet because the plan still is what it has been all along; Auston Matthews is resting his body and giving himself a chance to recover.
As we look ahead to the weekend there are back-to-back games for the Leafs. I wouldn't expect to see him on Friday when the Leafs host the Detroit Red Wings, but Saturday's game against Montreal, at least at this point in time, has not been ruled out. He's in a position to return as soon as then.
The Leafs and Matthews are taking this day-by-day with an injury that he's been managing to some degree since training camp. It's been a busy schedule and I think the Leafs and Matthews here are mindful of where they're at. There's nothing yet to suggest this is going to be a long-term thing.
Enniskillen
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LTIR the muchacho. Let him bask in the Mexican/Arizona sun and heal properly. Minten, come on down, you are the Leafs saviour lol
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Why are Leafs fans such meaniepants poopyheads? 
BallardEra
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Matthews ego is a problem. I would sign Tony De Angelo to solve a pp issue as a RD and also Tony would not hesitate to drop the gloves to defend his team-mates but also get in #34 face and ask him why he is not bleeping showing up ? Matthews needs a team-mate to get into his phuckin face and call him out for his lazy i dont give a bleep style of play. If u want it go get it, u want the money for bleep sake. Matthews when he wants can literally dominate whoever he wants, but he isnt a dog, has no dog inside him.
I'm with this 100%. If he were to miss half the season, or more, but be fully, 100% without a doubt healthy for the playoffs, no question what you do.
The goal is the Cup. You don't sniff that without Matthews fully healthy and playing better than he ever has in the playoffs.
You are likely going to have to beat Tampa and Florida both in a 7 game series. Your reward? Likely needing to beat Carolina or the Rangers in a 7 game series. Then a 7 game series over the best that comes out of the west.
I know most fans won't like this, but the NBA is getting criticized for 'load management', sometimes star players are just given a day off for no other reason other than resting them? Well, no one really does that in the NHL, maybe that is what the Leafs should be doing in the month leading up to the playoffs. I don't like that idea, I WANT to think my team's players can be more durable and tougher than anyone else, but ANYTHING that will give me an advantage come playoff time I'll take. Matthews being 100% physically and mentally is a must.
Stephen
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This mentality does not seem correct to me.
Auston Matthews has the captaincy and is the highest paid player in the game. On status, salary, expectation, ability, this guy is a Mackinnon, Kucherov, Draisaitl level forward and should be a fixture in the Art Ross race like his peers. He’s set the bar that high for himself, I’m just reminding everyone of it.
The other factor is he’s never really been a big game player, so this kind of bargaining that we can load manage and coddle the hell out him on an unknown injury so he’ll be right for the playoffs. It’s the Kawhi Leonard hypothesis and highly specious at best.
On the short term health front, it is what it is. He needs to get healthy and re-energized but aside from that I don’t think it’s right that we keep scaling back expectations and bargaining when he’ll show up. He needs to be great, step it up and be great in the big games.
Stephen
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No, this ain’t it at all.
If Matthews needs NBA style load management to maybe show up in the playoffs, you don’t build around him.
NBA load management culture worked out really well for the Raptors that one year with Kawhi but it did nothing for the LA Clippers. Joel Embiid missed a ton of games for the 76ers. Doesn’t work for them.
Superstars need to be great, there’s no lowering the bar here.
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You make good points. I guess what I meant was there is no need to rush him back till he is ready.
Stephen
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That I agree with, no rush there… but for the Leafs to be great he needs to be a warhorse for us and we need more all the time, not save it up for when it matters.
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If they don't want the fans to whine, they should show up in the playoffs or not try and take every last dollar so we can sign the help they apparently need in the playoffs.
Matthews is fortunate Marner is small, arrogant, a winger and has no years left on his contract because he has been as bad as him in the playoffs.
It's about winning at the end of the day or at least making runs. Toronto appreciated the f*** out of Mats because he was a warrior who showed up in the playoffs, he and Matthews both didn't/haven't won anything though, but the public perception is different because one guy actually showed up in the playoffs and the other guy not really.
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Him being on IR is a positive.
Allows him to heal up most important of course, allows Leafs to save on the Cap and allows the team to rely on a tighter defensive game which has always been their default approach to the game over last few years whenever Matthews have been out a few games.
Allows him to heal up most important of course, allows Leafs to save on the Cap and allows the team to rely on a tighter defensive game which has always been their default approach to the game over last few years whenever Matthews have been out a few games.
Craig Button
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Well if we put him on LTIR For the season and if EDM still isn’t in the playoff hunt close to the TD. We can trade for McDavid.
Then when playoffs start we can have Matthews back.
Menzinger
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It certainly will allow them to punt the trade decision of some other players a bit longer. If Matthews is likely going to need some extended time, might as well take advantage of it
Arthur Morgan
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when your part of a team with so many passionate fans and take pretty much every dollar you possibly can and then continuously fade away come playoff time what do you expect? this isn't a small sample size type of thing this has been going on for damn near a decade now.
also dont forget Matthews barely gets it from fans, got Marner there for that
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If you play like you care in Toronto you are appreciated forever.
Grinders who give their all are remembered for decades let alone stars.
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