[Matthew Tkachuk] Leafs would be unbelievable if the team wasn't in Toronto

[PistolPete]

More than you think. We actually brought this up on the Preds board at one point and didn't figure it was much if anything at all and then someone came in and posted the numbers for one of the guys we drafted and it was a pretty good chunk of change over the course of a year. Now it wasn't NHL level money, or anywhere close to what football players make obviously, but it was enough to be comfortable as a college kid if you decided you wanted to go that route.

One does not make the many though. So I wonder what the average would be for even just the top players

 

[NVious]

Could be true. Tkachuk was dogwater in every single postseason he played for the Flames

He got it done in an irrelevant market where the "fans" will forget what he did in a few years. He failed in a Canadian market and took the coward's way out, just like his father Walruschuk taught him.

Maybe he was speaking for himself, i.e he's a player that failed in a market that cares and has pressure, but succeeded on a stacked team in a place that couldn't care less.

It is true I guess for certain players like him that run from the grind.

 

[jackjohnson]

During an appearance on the Spittin' Chiclets podcast, Tkachuk acknowledged Toronto's high-pressure environment and just how much pressure the Toronto players face:


Thoughts on Toronto's intense media and fan environment obstructing team success and player performance? Could you see the city’s toxic, difficult environment to play in being part of the reason for Toronto's early playoff exits?. Personally, I don't buy the excuse, but Tkachuk bringing it up shows how the players are aware of the pressure cooker that is Toronto.

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I agree to an extent. Teams like Vancouver and Toronto have toxic media that I think it affect their teams psychologically. There are reasons why some players avoid going there. The media pressure is the worst and I think it jinxes the team due to negative energy and bad vibes. For example, Canucks have gotten rid of Miller to remove the feud that was happening between Pettersson and Miller yet the Media still writes articles about how Pettersson drama still aint over or articles of Hughes leaving is pretty much a guarantee.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He got it done in an irrelevant market where the "fans" will forget what he did in a few years. He failed in a Canadian market and took the coward's way out, just like his father Walruschuk taught him.

Maybe he was speaking for himself, i.e he's a player that failed in a market that cares and has pressure, but succeeded on a stacked team in a place that couldn't care less.

It is true I guess for certain players like him that run from the grind.

Someone got their feelings hurt. Ten years from now, Tkachuk will still be a Stanley Cup Champion and have a legacy as a player whose trade was the catalyst for turning around a franchise's playoff woes.

 

[HockeyVirus]

I think the one constant is Toronto has been horribly mismanaged ever since the introduction of the draft system as the means of dispersing initial talent across the League. Despite a front office with a budget the size of a small country, they've never fully understood the hockey thing and what it takes to build a consistent winner. The decision to sign Tavares and then let their RFAs that weren't even arbitration eligible take them to cleaners so that they had so much cap tied up in 4 Forwards... then double.. then triple.. then quadruple down until everyone was on a Full NMC, and now facing the prospect of Mitch Marner being the best player to walk into Unrestricted Free Agency with zero compensation accordingly (or maybe de minimis if they trade his negotiating rights so he can sign for an eighth year somewhere) since at least ... well John Tavares....is the latest in a long line of comical errors for Leafs management over 50+ years that has thus far doomed their best run of drafting in the Draft era, and one there's no guarantee they'll be able to replicate. Oh sure, there's always the excuses "the high stick", the "COVID flat cap" or whatever. But the Leafs have above all, just never been good enough and it's almost entirely "User Error" that made this so.

I wouldn't talk too much smack if the rumors of Hawks pursuing Marner is true. You could do the same thing. Marner will turn Bedard into a 45 goal scorer as soon as next season

 

[WarriorofTime]

I wouldn't talk too much smack if the rumors of Hawks pursuing Marner is true. You could do the same thing. Marner will turn Bedard into a 45 goal scorer as soon as next season

Two huge money forwards is normal. Four is bizarre.

 

[Armourboy]

One does not make the many though. So I wonder what the average would be for even just the top players

Not sure if that was included in the post, I'll see if I can dig it up. We weren't expecting him to be paid anything though so that alone was eye opening.

 

[colchar]

I agree completely.

But in terms of bolded above, it's really hard to stay away from Social when you're trying to keep track of Biebs and Drake and what latest fashion is calling for.

Gotta keep up with the fly outfits in play.

By the way, Haley Bieber is going to look more like her father and uncles than her mother as she ages. Those eyes. OUCH.

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Very valid points.

And dafuq is that loser wearing? That, right there, is proof that money cannot buy you class. He is as weird as his mother.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

By the way, Haley Bieber is going to look more like her father and uncles than her mother as she ages. Those eyes. OUCH.

???

 

[behemolari]

So its not a pressure situation in MTL, Philly, NY or other hockey hotbeds? How about other sports? Does the pressure not apply there?

They are pro athletes that have faced pressure their entire lives, no reason for TML to shit the bed in game 7 like they have the last bunch of years

Not that bad, but main point is its clear advantage being capable to walking around and living normal life without any distractions. Players in those cities will benefit with ability to focus better.

 

[NVious]

Someone got their feelings hurt. Ten years from now, Tkachuk will still be a Stanley Cup Champion and have a legacy as a player whose trade was the catalyst for turning around a franchise's playoff woes.

KD if KD was less good.

Ran from the grind, good for him though and his 1/6 ppg playoffs, great stuff.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

Nobody can guarantee that the Leafs will win a Stanley Cup over the next 100 years. Let that sink in deeply.

 

[Macbanan]

I don't think I know any other fanbase that would boo their own team during during a game 7 with the score 1-4 with like 17 minutes left. It's not a normal situation.

 

[PistolPete]

I don't think I know any other fanbase that would boo their own team during during a game 7 with the score 1-4 with like 17 minutes left. It's not a normal situation.

I think most would after 9 seasons, 8 being a top seed, 5 or 6 being hailed as a true Cup Contender.

Let me tell ay, in 2006 I was ready to tell each and every Senator what I thought about their mother and not just their play

 

[BB79]

Very valid points.

And dafuq is that loser wearing? That, right there, is proof that money cannot buy you class. He is as weird as his mother.

If you look at him from above he probably looks like a big red flower

 

[Summer Rose]

I don't think I know any other fanbase that would boo their own team during during a game 7 with the score 1-4 with like 17 minutes left. It's not a normal situation.

I remember watching game 7 when the Coyotes got blown out by the Red Wings on home ice. I don't remember hearing boos from the crowd (although I wouldn't be surprised if there were some). Also, to be quite honest, I was kind of drunk while watching. The team saluted the fans after the game and I started crying, but the crowd was cheering the players.

Much different situation though, since the Coyotes had the whole bankruptcy fiasco going on at the time, and it was our first time back in the playoffs for quite some time, as opposed to having made the playoffs several years in a row and stumbling out of them like the Leafs. If I had been at that Coyotes vs. Red Wings game 7, I definitely wouldn't have booed. On the other hand, if I were a Leafs fan at game 7 on Sunday night, watching my team get blown out in game 7 at home stumbling in the playoffs with the same core yet again, I might have been tempted to boo (although it's not really in my nature as a fan to boo my own team, so probably not - but I wouldn't have held it against anyone who did).

 

[Mr Positive]

I dont think Matt's relocation plan is feasible

 

[seafoam]

I don't actually know if they would.

Their defense and goaltending blows and their top four offensive stars are not a bunch of defensive stalwarts.

 

[Oilslick941611]

His reputation when he was traded was he wasn't a playoff performer. It was only rewritten when he went deep with the Panthers.

8P in 27GP

After leaving the west. He couldn’t hack it in the west. Got his ass kicked constantly and his teammates were sick of his antics and didn’t defend him near the end of the flames tenure.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

After leaving the west. He couldn’t hack it in the west. Got his ass kicked constantly and his teammates were sick of his antics and didn’t defend him near the end of the flames tenure.

And then he beat the Oilers and got his name engraved on the cup.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

He got it done in an irrelevant market where the "fans" will forget what he did in a few years. He failed in a Canadian market and took the coward's way out, just like his father Walruschuk taught him.

Maybe he was speaking for himself, i.e he's a player that failed in a market that cares and has pressure, but succeeded on a stacked team in a place that couldn't care less.

It is true I guess for certain players like him that run from the grind.

Your username is very appropriate.

 

[NVious]

Your username is very appropriate.

Truth hurts bruh, Tkachuk may be near the front of the bus, but he's not driving it. He ran from his shot at doing that cuz he couldn't handle the pressure.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

According to NHL radio there’s a new saying in town, “being Floridad”. Essentially losing and having to rebuild your entire roster or organization.

 

[ashs]

Toronto isn't allowed to hit and inflict the same amount of pain the way Florida can. The entire leaf team would be suspended for enternity if they did. The league allows the panthers to injure and play dirty. Protect the goalies psssh. No hits to the head psssh.

Go enjoy your beach parade with your 10 fans.

 

[Commander Clueless]

I dont think Matt's relocation plan is feasible

Disagree.

Atlanta Maple Leafs has a lovely ring to it.