Value of: Matt Roy

[FSL KINGS]

thanks for the 411
would say Rs can't likely submit highest bid

if you are thinking win now-ish then Lindgren + Vesey for Roy helps this season + next for an expiring rental.
Tho I'd prefer Lindy + Jones + two 3rds for two 2nds from AZ going forward, Rs are insane thin at RD and this does give inside track to extend as a stopgap, possibly next season

but I expect you may get higher offers

Isn't Lindgren going through a rough patch?

 

[bernmeister]

Isn't Lindgren going through a rough patch?

yes due to wear and tear
howev, per eye test he still skates suff enuf + clears the crease
at only 3 per thru next yr he is a short term stopgap that could be part of a package if, from what was posted, LD is part of LA wish list

Again, not sure we are a match including as to currency
but that's the piece that is closest to a LD fit
we are not sending KAM

 

[bernmeister]

Lindgren is intriguing, but the rest of that is pretty bleh.

If Roy goes, there has to be a quality piece coming back. 2nds and 3rds ain’t gonna move the needle.

sorry if I wasn't clear
2nd + 3rds not part of a Roy deal
sayin y thinking was Lindy + Jones allows two 3rds to be upgraded into two AZ 2nds
sayin that is a plan

If Roy enters picture per OP, sayin Lindy + Jones seems closest fit to what was asked

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

If LA wants any chance at the cup this year they aren't trading Roy. They probably can't afford to extend him so just do what New Jersey did with Severson and trade him extended in the off-season for a 3rd.

 

[Kurrilino]

thanks for the 411
would say Rs can't likely submit highest bid

if you are thinking win now-ish then Lindgren + Vesey for Roy helps this season + next for an expiring rental.
Tho I'd prefer Lindy + Jones + two 3rds for two 2nds from AZ going forward, Rs are insane thin at RD and this does give inside track to extend as a stopgap, possibly next season

but I expect you may get higher offers

Neither Lindgren or Jones are of any interest, not to mention in a package together.

 

[Puckstuff]

I'd easily give up a 1st + for Roy even as a rental

 

[Filthy Dangles]

The Kings are comfortably in a playoff spot 7 points ahead of trailers and games in hand on teams behind them.

I don't see how trading one of their better defenseman is realistic.

 

[tomd]

The Kings are comfortably in a playoff spot 7 points ahead of trailers and games in hand on teams behind them.

I don't see how trading one of their better defenseman is realistic.

It really isn't but this is HF so...

 

[Wallet Inspector]

LA isn't gonna trade him, but do Kings fans think the team will re-sign him? Or do they expect Clarke to take his spot next year?

 

[Bobby9]

I’ve been hoping the Canucks would target him this off season. Exactly who we need on our 2nd pairing.

Would love for us to go for him.

 

[Trash Panda]

LA isn't gonna trade him, but do Kings fans think the team will re-sign him? Or do they expect Clarke to take his spot next year?

I’m sure they are gonna try to bring him back, but he has earned a substantial raise, and the Kings are in a bit of a cap pickle.

Even with Arvidsson not returning and Kopitars salary coming down a bit, that is all going to be chewed up with Byfields extension.

There just isn’t any salary cap left for Roy to be paid what he rightfully has earned. He is gonna get serious money & term thrown at him by someone this year. 6-ish million on a long term deal isn’t out of the question on the open market.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I’m sure they are gonna try to bring him back, but he has earned a substantial raise, and the Kings are in a bit of a cap pickle.

Even with Arvidsson not returning and Kopitars salary coming down a bit, that is all going to be chewed up with Byfields extension.

There just isn’t any salary cap left for Roy to be paid what he rightfully has earned. He is gonna get serious money & term thrown at him by someone this year. 6-ish million on a long term deal isn’t out of the question on the open market.

Yup, this is Roy's chance to cash in and with a newborn in the household I doubt he's going to leave money/term on the table.

He's basically the ideal #3 who can PK, a good defensive d-man but one who handles the puck very well, AND he's a righty. He's one of the most desirable 'types' of assets in the NHL. Kings won't be able to afford him no matter how much they want to bring him back.

 

[bernmeister]

Neither Lindgren or Jones are of any interest, not to mention in a package together.

thanks but again to be clear, I explained the Lindy + Jones + 3rds for 2nds was for AZ, not LA

Lindy as a piece is only remote match NY has as to LD [who is available]. Specified LA has better offers

 

[Kurrilino]

thanks but again to be clear, I explained the Lindy + Jones + 3rds for 2nds was for AZ, not LA

Lindy as a piece is only remote match NY has as to LD [who is available]. Specified LA has better offers

fair enough

 

[Kurrilino]

I’m sure they are gonna try to bring him back, but he has earned a substantial raise, and the Kings are in a bit of a cap pickle.

Even with Arvidsson not returning and Kopitars salary coming down a bit, that is all going to be chewed up with Byfields extension.

There just isn’t any salary cap left for Roy to be paid what he rightfully has earned. He is gonna get serious money & term thrown at him by someone this year. 6-ish million on a long term deal isn’t out of the question on the open market.

Roy already makes 3.2 mill, assuming 5.2 is the target it's a raise of 2 mill
Arvidson would clear 4.2 mill and Kopitar clears another 3 mill.

This is plenty of money to sign Byfield and Roy.

 

[Trash Panda]

Roy already makes 3.2 mill, assuming 5.2 is the target it's a raise of 2 mill
Arvidson would clear 4.2 mill and Kopitar clears another 3 mill.

This is plenty of money to sign Byfield and Roy.

You think 10.4 is enough to extend Byfield and Roy both?

I like the optimism, but I just don’t see it happening.

 

[Lt Dan]

You think 10.4 is enough to extend Byfield and Roy both?

I like the optimism, but I just don’t see it happening.

There is zero f***ing way that happens

Byfield is gonna ask for Stuztle or Sanderson money which is 8x8
Roy is gonna ask for $5M+

 

[Trash Panda]

There is zero f***ing way that happens

Byfield is gonna ask for Stuztle or Sanderson money which is 8x8
Roy is gonna ask for $5M+

I see Q getting 7x7 at least.

Roy is gonna float around 6, I wager.

 

[funky]

Blake has a lot of work to do before next season. No goalies signed. Best player needs a massive raise. Arguably 2nd best defenseman (Roy) a UFA. Lots of players on this years roster need contracts. Some will be minimal raises but they still chip away at our minimal cap. Not sure if we can eat Talbot's 1 mil bonus this year or will it count against next years cap?

Kings RFA's

Byfield - Massive raise
Kaliyev - may get traded
Turcotte
Lizotte
Anderson-Dolan
Spence - healthy raise
Moverare - even if re-signed no substantial raise
Grundstrom -

Kings UFA's

Roy - Healthy Raise, need this guy in our line-up, only physical right D
Arvidsson - Should let him go, others have picked up scoring slack, oft injured
Lewis - even if re-signed no substantial raise
ALL Goalies - will most likely be a raise as we spent 2 mil on goalies this year


In a perfect wold I would re-sign Roy and move Spence and Kaliyev in a package for goaltending or left defence but I have no idea where the money is coming from. Still have Provovov and Richards 2.75 mil in cap hit to account for next year.

If I am Blake I am sitting with Byfield yesterday to determine his contract going forward and taking away the possibility of an offer sheet. Byfield's contract will determine how they move forward

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Keep Roy. William Nylander++++++++ for Doughty

 

[Rorschach]

LA already has (at least) two overpaid princess’s , no need for a third.

The entire reason that LA would entertain trading a shutdown RHD in the middle of his prime is because they can’t afford his next contract.

We're going to compete with Disney.

 

[Rorschach]

There will be multiple teams who will want to trade for Roy. This is one of those rare situations where you can acquire a good core player where the team would keep them if they could but can't, due to cap (mismanagement).

It's kind of like how LA got Willie Mitchell and Rob Scuderi and we all know how that turned out.

Except, on top of that, this is a top RHsD, not some winger. For example, I could easily see him in Ottawa playing on the other side of Chabot on the top pairing. That could stabilize the entire D corps.

 

[Kurrilino]

You think 10.4 is enough to extend Byfield and Roy both?

I like the optimism, but I just don’t see it happening.

There is a bigger picture to this, we have roughly 22 mill cap space.
Lizottes will be replaced with Turcotte, the RFA's sign for what they are worth right now short term.
Then it all fits.

Of course it would help to get rid of Kopitar and Doghty, without that there is no moving forward

 

[deaderhead28]

There is zero f***ing way that happens

Byfield is gonna ask for Stuztle or Sanderson money which is 8x8
Roy is gonna ask for $5M+

Roy is probably staying put.

 

[kings11]

Roy is probably staying put.

But he shouldn’t