Matt Duchene had 0 EVP in 18 playoff games

[FiveFourteenSixOne]

Duchene had some chances. I’m more disappointed in Robertson. I understand he was coming back from injury, but he already had the WPG series to shake off the rust. He was invisible and a turnover machine. His lack of foot speed will keep him from becoming a truly elite forward.

Robertson scored 3 goals in the final two games, and was one of the only noticeable and dangerous forwards.

Considering he came off an injury, right in the middle of the playoffs, I'd hardly blame him when you had someone like Rantanen not score a single goal in the WCF.

 

[Hockey2Hockey]

That seems almost impossible to accomplish for someone getting decent minutes. You would think he would get an assist by accident.

 

[Gorskyontario]

I don't get that guy. He seems extremely inconsistent. He's been that way his whole career.

Didn't he have a season where he had like six goals and 13 points and then score 40+ goals the next year?

Having zero EVP in a lengthy playoff run is rough. I'm sure he had bad luck (obviously)... but ugh.

Do you think he performed better than Matthews and Marner?

 

[Duder54]

Matt Duchene sounds like a perfect fit for the Maple Leafs…

 

[Son of Nogatco]

Matt Duchene sounds like a perfect fit for the Maple Leafs…

Auston’s next mentor

 

[Sky04]

Duchene has had that reputation as an empty-calories guy for quite some time now. Not elite enough of a scorer to outshine a true star, not rounded enough to contribute in other areas of the game. He’ll lose his matchup most of the time, while putting up numbers that will sucker some GM in the summer.

Sounds like he'd be a great fit on the hurricanes.

 

[Sky04]

Meanwhile Benn and Seguin eat up 19M in cap and had 11 combined points this run

 

[JeffP]

All of Dallas besides Granlund and Rantanen at times looked back 5 on 5. Sounds like a coaching flaw if the only guys who look good are the guys who just got there.

Anyways, if Dallas doesn’t want him I’m sure Winnipeg will take him

This is a take I agree with, give him another coach and or team
The whole team fizzled in the playoffs

We arent kicking Wyatt out for a terrible post season, right? right?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Sounds like he'd be a great fit on the hurricanes.

He’s like the opposite of a Hurricanes type player. They put up the underlying numbers without any of it translating to the scoreboard.

 

[sr edler]

Were all of his linemates shots bad too?

Yes, if Duchene isn't setting them up properly or creating good chances, then their shots will most likely be pretty futile, on a whole. Especially if he's the one supposed to drive play. What you're putting forward here with your "on-ice shooting %" or "puck luck" schtick is essentially a form of Lysenkoism where all players are treated equally no matter what they're doing on the ice or how they play.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Yes, if Duchene isn't setting them up properly or creating good chances, then their shots will most likely be pretty futile, on a whole. Especially if he's the one supposed to drive play. What you're putting forward here with your "on-ice shooting %" or "puck luck" schtick is essentially a form of Lysenkoism where all players are treated equally no matter what they're doing on the ice or how they play.

So you think a 2.5% on ice shooting percentage isn't representative of bad puck luck?

Lol okay. Not every player is expected to achieve the same on ice sh%. There are a few elite offensive players that are able to inflate that number a material amount. But nobody gets a sub 3% rate over such a sample size without getting a lot of bad puck luck.

 

[sr edler]

So you think a 2.5% on ice shooting percentage isn't representative of bad puck luck?

Lol okay. Not every player is expected to achieve the same on ice sh%. There are a few elite offensive players that are able to inflate that number a material amount. But nobody gets a sub 3% rate over such a sample size without getting a lot of bad puck luck.

You have to watch the games to explain these things. You can't just look at numbers and make assumptions. Show some tape where I can lay my eyes on said "puck luck" and then we can talk more about it.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

You have to watch the games to explain these things. You can't just look at numbers and make assumptions. Show some tape where I can lay my eyes on said "puck luck" and then we can talk more about it.

You don't need to see specific examples. Bad puck luck can be occur in the aggregate. Goalies aren't saving 98 out of 100 shots (vs 15 expected goals) without getting some fortunate luck.

 

[sr edler]

You don't need to see specific examples. Bad puck luck can be occur in the aggregate.

It occurs in the aggregate but I'm not allowed to see it?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It occurs in the aggregate but I'm not allowed to see it?

You're absolutely allowed to. But it might not look like what you'd expect. It's not necessarily going to be a ton of highlight reel saves (though it very well might be). It could just be goalies consistently making a bunch of mid danger saves at a much higher rate than they normally would.

 

[Dirty Dan]

Duchene had some chances. I’m more disappointed in Robertson. I understand he was coming back from injury, but he already had the WPG series to shake off the rust. He was invisible and a turnover machine. His lack of foot speed will keep him from becoming a truly elite forward.

He at least scored a ton vs Edmonton the past couple years, elite shooting. Meanwhile Duchene's line played well but couldn't finish anything

 

[Hockey2Hockey]

Around the trade to Ottawa, I was thinking he would have a legit shot at the HHOF. But he just kept declining.

 

[Dirty Dan]

Why does O'Reilly hate him?

Probably because he has to do all the defensive work while Duchene gets to be the star center but hasn't earned that right, which is why Colorado was better without him

 

[KAWAIlllI]

Toronto bound!

 

[landstuhltaylor]

Around the trade to Ottawa, I was thinking he would have a legit shot at the HHOF. But he just kept declining.

Guy is a loser through and through. Needs to sign with Benn again to keep the pair going.

 

[tfwnogf]

He sucks when it counts. If he was a pokemon he would be Matthews' pre-evolution

 

[Joe Sakic]

He's an over-emotional diva. Legit one of the biggest mental midgets the NHL has ever seen.