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A few local rumors circulating about offer sheets. Anaheim has their 1C in Carlsson so I wonder what it would take to see McTavish moved.

It's hard to believe since Anaheim has tons of cap space but for the sake of indulgence, can some Anaheim fans chip in what they'd want from Montreal?
 
A few local rumors circulating about offer sheets. Anaheim has their 1C in Carlsson so I wonder what it would take to see McTavish moved.

It's hard to believe since Anaheim has tons of cap space but for the sake of indulgence, can some Anaheim fans chip in what they'd want from Montreal?
I mean figure they are asking for demidov back
 
I mean figure they are asking for demidov back
Fair enough for them to ask for Demidov. I do wonder if an offersheet risks throwing a wrench in their internal cap plans when they'll need to resign Carlsson, LaCombe and all their young talent. This is on top of them being rumored to back up the brinks truck for Marner.
 
Fair enough for them to ask for Demidov. I do wonder if an offersheet risks throwing a wrench in their internal cap plans when they'll need to resign Carlsson, LaCombe and all their young talent. This is on top of them being rumored to back up the brinks truck for Marner.
I mean one can always try an offer sheet but other than last year it’s not a common occurrence.
Cap wise Anaheim is in a great position going forward.
 
Fair enough for them to ask for Demidov. I do wonder if an offersheet risks throwing a wrench in their internal cap plans when they'll need to resign Carlsson, LaCombe and all their young talent. This is on top of them being rumored to back up the brinks truck for Marner.
You sleeping under a rock, ownership said they aren't penny pinching anymore and gave Verbeek the green light on spending to the cap
 
You sleeping under a rock, ownership said they aren't penny pinching anymore and gave Verbeek the green light on spending to the cap
An internal cap allocation still exists even if you're spending to the cap in order to maintain a balanced contract structure. We have one in Montreal where most Fs are taking the Suzuki contract as the upper limit. It's about spending wisely.

There's only so many players you can pay 10M+ to before you become Toronto.
 
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One of Caufield, Slafkovsky, or Guhle, plus something else significant. The plus would depend on which one it was.

I could maybe see Reinbacher++ if ANA likes him enough. The pluses there likely being 1st (16th or 17th) and 2nd (40th) round picks.

Too rich for my tastes. McTavish strikes me as a guy who is just as likely to stagnate and disappoint as he is to continue his development toward being a legit top-six C.

To me this would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Pass from this Habs fan.
 
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Fair enough for them to ask for Demidov. I do wonder if an offersheet risks throwing a wrench in their internal cap plans when they'll need to resign Carlsson, LaCombe and all their young talent. This is on top of them being rumored to back up the brinks truck for Marner.
They have 40 mil in caprroom. They don't need to trade him. The money Mason M is looking for means Montreal would need to fork over four 1st round pick. Anaheim is in a win now mood. They will match anything
 
Fair enough for them to ask for Demidov. I do wonder if an offersheet risks throwing a wrench in their internal cap plans when they'll need to resign Carlsson, LaCombe and all their young talent.

They've avoided long veteran contracts for a reason. between Gibson, Strome, Killorn, Gudas, and Trouba, almost another 30m comes off the cap in the next two years on top of the 30m+ they already have.

And Samueli made it clear that going forward there are no budget restraints. It made sense to have a budget during the tear down, but not now.

This is on top of them being rumored to back up the brinks truck for Marner.

If Marner is signed you'd have to think that makes Zegras redundant, not McTavish. In fact Marner seems a better complement for McT than Carlsson.

And let's be real here, McTavish is one of the guys along with Carlsson that you overpay if you have to.
 
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A few local rumors circulating about offer sheets. Anaheim has their 1C in Carlsson so I wonder what it would take to see McTavish moved.

It's hard to believe since Anaheim has tons of cap space but for the sake of indulgence, can some Anaheim fans chip in what they'd want from Montreal?
MacT is a perfect 2C. To pry him loose would be beyond costly. Likely the equivalent of four firsts. And even then, why in the world would the Ducks do it?
 
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A few local rumors circulating about offer sheets. Anaheim has their 1C in Carlsson so I wonder what it would take to see McTavish moved.

It's hard to believe since Anaheim has tons of cap space but for the sake of indulgence, can some Anaheim fans chip in what they'd want from Montreal?
So don't Habs have their #1C in Suzuki.

Ducks need a second #1C as much as the habs...this makes no sense.
 
One of Caufield, Slafkovsky, or Guhle, plus something else significant. The plus would depend on which one it was.

I could maybe see Reinbacher++ if ANA likes him enough. The pluses there likely being 1st (16th or 17th) and 2nd (40th) round picks.

Too rich for my tastes. McTavish strikes me as a guy who is just as likely to stagnate and disappoint as he is to continue his development toward being a legit top-six C.

To me this would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Pass from this Habs fan.
Those offers don’t even come close to getting MacT.
 
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Will say if you want to pry McTavish out of Anaheim prepare to offer something you don’t want to. Multiple pieces and picks won’t work for a team that has had plenty of those
 
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McTavish is a stud but I wouldn't be surprised if Demidov outproduces his 24-25 season next year as a rookie. 1st+Beck aren't just throw-ins either.
You do realize Demidov and MacT are different types of players, right? Habs would be looking at Demodov + the equivalent of three more firsts. The Ducks have no reason to trade the player. Therefore the cost would be a big overpay.
 
Those offers don’t even come close to getting MacT.
That’s your opinion. Like I said, I wouldn’t pay those anyway.

Let’s be real; as a Habs hater, it doesn’t matter what the offer was, short of Demidov or Hutson or something ridiculous, you’d still say the same thing. Hell, you’d probably say the same thing even for those latter two.

Meaningless opinion.
 
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An internal cap allocation still exists even if you're spending to the cap in order to maintain a balanced contract structure. We have one in Montreal where most Fs are taking the Suzuki contract as the upper limit. It's about spending wisely.

There's only so many players you can pay 10M+ to before you become Toronto.
Fair argument.

As for McTavish, I think it would take an OS equivalent of 4 1sts though to pry him. He exploded the 2nd half of the season with a near point per game production while still on the worst powerplay in the league. I don't think they would absolutely max a deal in the 9M range if it actually happened
 
MacT is a perfect 2C.

He may even be better than that. Last year before injuries he had a little 15 game stretch where he was toying with a point per game. This year after a weak first half, he toyed with a point per game for about 35 games.

His good stretches get longer each year. Is it crazy to think that he might actually have a point per game ceiling? If so, he might be a decent 1C.
 

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