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Player Discussion Mason Lohrei

Dennis Bonvie said:
Not really.

Just because McAvoy has been terrible on a terrible PP unit doesn't make Lohrei more impressive. He doesn't even have a power play goal.
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None of the B''s d has had a lot of goals over the last 2-3 years. It's not how it's run schematically. They do not take a lot of shots from the point. Thus less goals. Mc and Hampus only had one PPG each last year.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
Not really.

Just because McAvoy has been terrible on a terrible PP unit doesn't make Lohrei more impressive. He doesn't even have a power play goal.
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For defensemen who get regular PP time he's 5th in the entire league for PPP/60. And he's been getting it done with our terrible-er second PP unit.
 
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ODAAT said:
Epitome of riverboat gambler , I`ll get in trouble here but while the mistake was brutal, he`s a kid with a mindset, mistakes, big and small will happen, love Sacco didn`t plant his ass the rest of the game
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Like Sacco had other options.
 
ODAAT said:
Epitome of riverboat gambler , I`ll get in trouble here but while the mistake was brutal, he`s a kid with a mindset, mistakes, big and small will happen, love Sacco didn`t plant his ass the rest of the game
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I agree to an extent. He's definitely a high risk player, but I think that play warranted a benching. I know there isn't a lot of options in the top 6, but I feel like Sacco as the coach can't allow that kind of recklessness and careless play go unaccounted for. It really deflated the team entire team and they completely collapsed after that.
 
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4ORRBRUIN said:
He is an offence minded D with zero understanding on how to play the possition.

He's a trainwreck but mine as well let him see if he can get his shit togather before sending him out in a trade.
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And Carlo is a defensive minded D with zero understanding on how to play the position. Feel like every game Carlo does a handful+ of brain fart plays.
Same could be said about Zadorov.

Whole D core is a trainwreck & to pile on a rookie who happens to be their best offensive/skilled D is something.
 
4ORRBRUIN said:
He is an offence minded D with zero understanding on how to play the possition.

He's a trainwreck but mine as well let him see if he can get his shit togather before sending him out in a trade.
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Honest question.......did you think Lohrei was this bad defensively a year ago? I don't recall all these statements on how he has zero understanding of how to play D when he was playing 17 mins on average in last year's playoffs.

I'm not even sure how he gets to the NCAA level with supposedly zero understanding of playing D.
 
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weaponomega said:
I agree to an extent. He's definitely a high risk player, but I think that play warranted a benching. I know there isn't a lot of options in the top 6, but I feel like Sacco as the coach can't allow that kind of recklessness and careless play go unaccounted for. It really deflated the team entire team and they completely collapsed after that.
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McAvoy , while not making that exact play, has made loads of horrific decisions with and without the puck that directly led to goals by opponents, especially while on the PP. For me, benching the kid achieves literally nothing, he`d next go out, grip his stick, be afraid to continue trying to create

This kid will learn from that mistake, I`ll wager he definitely won`t try that move again, he`ll make other mistakes but I disagree, I feel the way far too many coaches handle kids is wrong and detrimental.

BruinDust said:
Honest question.......did you think Lohrei was this bad defensively a year ago? I don't recall all these statements on how he has zero understanding of how to play D when he was playing 17 mins on average in last year's playoffs.

I'm not even sure how he gets to the NCAA level with supposedly zero understanding of playing D.
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so it is a coaching thing or a Mason thing cuz I`m watching all the D not understanding their responsibilities this year
 
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ODAAT said:
McAvoy , while not making that exact play, has made loads of horrific decisions with and without the puck that directly led to goals by opponents, especially while on the PP. For me, benching the kid achieves literally nothing, he`d next go out, grip his stick, be afraid to continue trying to create

This kid will learn from that mistake, I`ll wager he definitely won`t try that move again, he`ll make other mistakes but I disagree, I feel the way far too many coaches handle kids is wrong and detrimental.


so it is a coaching thing or a Mason thing cuz I`m watching all the D not understanding their responsibilities this year
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The whole team needs a do over on the defensive side of the puck. Start small.

Personally I’d go with introductions. Then see who can actually skate backwards
 
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ODAAT said:
McAvoy , while not making that exact play, has made loads of horrific decisions with and without the puck that directly led to goals by opponents, especially while on the PP. For me, benching the kid achieves literally nothing, he`d next go out, grip his stick, be afraid to continue trying to create

This kid will learn from that mistake, I`ll wager he definitely won`t try that move again, he`ll make other mistakes but I disagree, I feel the way far too many coaches handle kids is wrong and detrimental.


so it is a coaching thing or a Mason thing cuz I`m watching all the D not understanding their responsibilities this year
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I think it's a whole pile of things.

Fatigue factor from spending too much time defending and not enough in the offensive zone

In Lohrei's case I think their is also being conditioned for the grind of the NHL schedule. Playing USHL and NCAA he didn't play a huge pile of games each season. Even last year he was off and on the AHL schedule which is different.

Lack of trust among the players in where they should be and who is providing the next layer for who

Constantly changing D partners. In Lohrei's case I don't think they've found a D-partner for him that he's been uber-comfortable with. For some reason him and Carlo hasn't worked.

No consistency on who the center is shift-to-shift, let alone game-to-game.

The overall pressure of playing for a team that has been behind the 8-ball essentially since game one, trying to do too much, not letting the game come to him sometimes.

Changes to the overall system. First Monty wanting to get away from the Box + 1, and even Sacco using that system but a slightly modified version of it. How well are Sacco and the rest of the staff communicating what they want the players to do. Can they teach it? Do they understand it themselves?
 
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ODAAT said:
so it is a coaching thing or a Mason thing cuz I`m watching all the D not understanding their responsibilities this year
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Steady reliable Parker Wotherspoon has done some head-scratching things this season. Zado has always been a bit of wild ride defensively, but some of the stuff this year has been amazing in a not good way. Carlo, Mac . . . ugh. It's really like all the weaker qualities they have as defenseman have been amplified substantially.
 
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BruinDust said:
Honest question.......did you think Lohrei was this bad defensively a year ago? I don't recall all these statements on how he has zero understanding of how to play D when he was playing 17 mins on average in last year's playoffs.

I'm not even sure how he gets to the NCAA level with supposedly zero understanding of playing D.
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Honest answer? yes, he was.

He looks like a forward filling in to play defence he's that bad.

The kid is costing them games. He is not a dominating offensive player , not that it would be an excuse to put up with it. But it would make dealing with his shabby play more tolerating.

This season is looking like a dnq so mine as well ride it out with him and hope he gets it.
 
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