Post-Game Talk: Marner loses it, 4-3 OT

[Hustlr]

Muzzin - Nah, not really. Hard to say that was a bad trade right now but I’d be curious to know what else was available.

Mikheyev - Yeah. I’m not sure how much credit he gets on the signing. I read Babcock played a big part in it.

Drafts are too soon to tell. I’m definitely discouraged seeing a bunch of squirts. Not that they can’t/won’t make it, but this team needs a better mix and he seems to target only one player type.

Alright I guess we’re all entitled to our opinions. You can choose to view things whichever way you want.

I feel like he’s done exactly what we’ve wanted on these boards. He went to get the D, he drafted good players...

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I don't mean by his boss but by the media, fans

Why though? Convinced the owners/board to strip it down for a rebuild with the fruits of its labour still to be seen. Saw the team draft a franchise centre under his watch. Helped bring in a top-notch coach in Babcock. Followed through on a succession plan for GM with an up-and-coming GM taking over a long-term vet whom he learned from over a 3-year period.

He's instilled a lot of good for this franchise and stability. The onus now falls squarely on Dubas, Babcock and the players. Don't know what more we as fans or the media can expect from him.

 

[jrgtml67]

It was actually AM and Marner, they both stayed out too long after AM34s sick deke that went for not.

I really want us to call up Korshkov.

 

[ACC1224]

Why though? Convinced the owners/board to strip it down for a rebuild with the fruits of its labour still to be seen. Saw the team draft a franchise centre under his watch. Helped bring in a top-notch coach in Babcock. Followed through on a succession plan for GM with an up-and-coming GM taking over a long-term vet whom he learned from over a 3-year period.

He's instilled a lot of good for this franchise and stability. The onus now falls squarely on Dubas, Babcock and the players. Don't know what more we as fans or the media can expect from him.

If he put people in key positions and they fail he will be called out for it.

 

[sparxx87]

Alright I guess we’re all entitled to our opinions. You can choose to view things whichever way you want.

I feel like he’s done exactly what we’ve wanted on these boards. He went to get the D, he drafted good players...

I don’t think Barrie is a defensive upgrade over Jake Gardiner and Cody Ceci is a lateral move from Zaitsev.

The team needed to get better defensively and I’m hard pressed to see how they did that.

Care to enlighten me?

 

[Hustlr]

I don’t think Barrie is a defensive upgrade over Jake Gardiner and Cody Ceci is a lateral move from Zaitsev.

The team needed to get better defensively and I’m hard pressed to see how they did that.

Care to enlighten me?

I hate Barrie.

The upgrade is Muzzin. Just because he was here last season doesn’t mean Dubas didn’t add him when we needed him...

 

[sparxx87]

I hate Barrie.

The upgrade is Muzzin. Just because he was here last season doesn’t mean Dubas didn’t add him when we needed him...

Fair enough.

I’m still undecided. Adding a 2nd pair D without taking from your roster is almost always good. I just wonder what else would have been available for that, or a similar package.

 

[Hustlr]

Fair enough.

I’m still undecided. Adding a 2nd pair D without taking from your roster is almost always good. I just wonder what else would have been available for that, or a similar package.

Ya that’s fair. Obviously if Muzzle was a RHD he’d be nearly perfect, too bad. I think we could see a good return from a Kapanen/Ceci(or Barrie even) package.

 

[Menzinger]

I don’t think Barrie is a defensive upgrade over Jake Gardiner and Cody Ceci is a lateral move from Zaitsev.

The team needed to get better defensively and I’m hard pressed to see how they did that.

Care to enlighten me?

Name.the last rhd we had even close to Barries level....

 

[Hustlr]

Name.the last rhd we had even close to Barries level....

Zaitsev

 

[Bigmarycombo]

He's also a big minus! In other words he's a liability at even strength.

How about Matthews lazy play on the Dubois goal. Speaking of plus minus what was Matthews final plus minus total by the end of the year.

 

[sparxx87]

Name.the last rhd we had even close to Barries level....

I don’t know. Does the lack of recent quality at the position make Barrie good by default? Or is it because he’s good at being right handed?

He looks a lot like John Michael Liles defending down low.

 

[Hustlr]

I don’t know. Does the lack of recent quality at the position make Barrie good by default? Or is it because he’s good at being right handed?

He looks a lot like John Michael Liles defending down low.

His shot is the worst on our blue line, specifically his wrister.

 

[Bigmarycombo]

Barkov was a minus all last year. Him too?

Our generational center was a horrible plus minus last year.

Posters use plus minus like this

Matthews fans
When Matthews is a terrible plus minus like last year
It’s a crap stat that means nothing

Matthews fans when someone else is a terrible plus minus
He’s playing like crap look at his plus minus

 

[Da Cool Rula]

I don’t think Barrie is a defensive upgrade over Jake Gardiner and Cody Ceci is a lateral move from Zaitsev.

The team needed to get better defensively and I’m hard pressed to see how they did that.

Care to enlighten me?

A team with a good defence has forwards that consistently back check.

 

[sparxx87]

A team with a good defence has forwards that consistently back check.

Definitely.

I’ve been pretty unimpressed with many of the forwards, too. Most of the team can and should be better.

 

[ToneDog]

How about Matthews lazy play on the Dubois goal. Speaking of plus minus what was Matthews final plus minus total by the end of the year.

We might be nit picking but Noodles reminded me of his untimely line change that led to a CBJ 4 on 2. Noodles called it low IQ.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Hopefully he's better tonight because this one kind of was on him