What's Marner's PPG in games 5-7? Just curious as we've been to enough game 7's that we should have an ample sample size
Marner: Keep or Walk Poll
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Can't do that. Seems like the only coach willing to keep those two away from each other was Babs.
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Keep or walk? This poll is missing a 3rd option. Drive. As in to the airport right away.
Remember years from now when you used your brain and it told you that Mitch Marner walking away was a good idea.
Any of those 3are not worth keeping, but of the 3 I would keep Marner. Matthews is a chronic both head and body. Willie cannot commit or will not and cannot spell D. Marner is a heart and soul, but is a coward, (well all 3 are cowards) and is a cancer in the room. Ship out all 3 along with Reilly.
Not gonna win anything with them anyway
Not gonna win anything with them anyway
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Whats any Leafs ppg in games 5-7? Conversely. You need to show up in the first 4 in order to reach games 5 and 7. Despite what some people here think, EVERY game matters in the playoffs. He'll. Every SHIFT matters. So if he doesn't go crazy in games 1-4, do the Leaf even make games 5,6 and 7? Also, If Mitch doesn't get a pass, not a single Leaf should get one and Leafs should start rebuilding. Hard to blame the set up man if he's feeding a player that can't score.
In games 5-7 he has played 9 games and has 1 goal, 2 assists and 3 points, while being -8.
This year he was 0 points in 5 games and a -10.
In game 7's only, a -3 with 0 points, but only 2 games played.
Oh wait.. this is Knies, everyone's favourite player now.
They have all sucked, not just Marner.
Why deflect? We're talking about Mitch Marner here. You said he was a PPG player in the playoffs, I'm just wondering what his PPG is in the biggest and most important games of a 7 game series.
Every shift matters for sure. But the shifts in a game 7 matter more than the shifts in a game 1. Also Mitch Marner makes $10M+. He's not gonna put up points every game, but you'd like more production from a leader making so much money in the biggest games of the season. Does Draisaitl choose that he's gonna just go crazy in the first 4 games and then coast in the last 3?
No Leafs get a pass. Matthews, Nylander, Marner. They all shit the bed. Marner does it quite often in games 5-7 and since this is a Marner thread we're talking about him.
Marner is just strictly a set up man now? He's a yearly 25+ goal scorer. Guess what his GPG is in the playoffs? Hint it's not pretty. He's not fit to be a leader once playoff hockey comes around. He has to be your Kessel.
Knies is also 22, in his second year in the league and makes $925k lol. You want to compare him with Marner, a 28 year old, with 9 years in the league making $10.9M? Some people have serious lost the plot.
It is not weird to compare him to someone that people call a playoff player or the best player this playoff.
He clearly wasn't, it is just showing that other factors cloud people's judgement, it is why you had to bring up a bunch of things outside of play to make it seem like Knies hasn't been bad.
The fact is, losing has been a team effort and Marner is receiving most of the hate because people don't like him, not because he was actually the worst.
It's why you have to isolate games to make him seem worse.
Yes, you have, 100% agreed.
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I wouldn't say he is strictly a set up man but it is what he is known for. No one would say Marner is a known goal scorer when he has 3 times the assists as he does goals. It's not like that's changed throughout all these years. We knew what we were getting when we drafted him. To fault him now for not scoring goals in big games is silly and highlights the need for the person who is being setting up to capitalize on those chances.
I will say it's refreshing to see your take on the others not getting a pass which brings me back to the original questions that I posed.
Who replaces Marner? What happens if the "playoff performer" you wish to sign don't sign? You good with letting a 100 point PP/PK guy who was Selke nominated guy and is a PPG player in the playoffs walk for nothing? You good with being a worse team or rebuilding?
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Yes it is weird. You give Knies leeway because he's 22 with barely any playoff experience. If you don't see the difference between a 22 year old in his second year of playoffs vs a 28 year old in his 9th playoffs then you're either being disingenuous, or you haven't just lost the plot, you've actually lost your mind too.
Stop slobbering over Marner's knob. I've called out Matthews and Nylander too. What you Marner d riders don't understand is that this is a MARNER thread.
No I'm not making Marner seem worst. His terrible play in close out games is what makes it look bad. Blame Marner for that
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If we do indeed walk away from Marner, what will always be such a maddening memory will always be the pig headed and almost obsessive way Marner and Matthews were always joined at the hip, whether they were succeeding or failing.
They clearly were more complete and engaged players when separated, and were so much more difficult to defend, whereas together they were not nearly as dynamic and were much more predictable and easy to defend against.
Separately they competed so much harder vs their affinity for trying to play video game hockey when together.
My favourite version of Marner, and where I felt played his best, was when he was away from Matthews. The 4 Nations was a case in point on its own.
Marner seemed to lose his identity and became less dangerous playing with Matthews.
It’s a shame really. I think Leafs management did everyone wrong here by refusing to play them separately, and now wherever Marner goes, because he won’t be playing with Matthews, I think we are going to see the more complete and dangerous player that we should have had here.
Our management didn’t have the balls to do what needed to be done, and what was best for the team.
What a waste and so damn maddening.
They clearly were more complete and engaged players when separated, and were so much more difficult to defend, whereas together they were not nearly as dynamic and were much more predictable and easy to defend against.
Separately they competed so much harder vs their affinity for trying to play video game hockey when together.
My favourite version of Marner, and where I felt played his best, was when he was away from Matthews. The 4 Nations was a case in point on its own.
Marner seemed to lose his identity and became less dangerous playing with Matthews.
It’s a shame really. I think Leafs management did everyone wrong here by refusing to play them separately, and now wherever Marner goes, because he won’t be playing with Matthews, I think we are going to see the more complete and dangerous player that we should have had here.
Our management didn’t have the balls to do what needed to be done, and what was best for the team.
What a waste and so damn maddening.
Your an idiot
Hes definitely the one I let go n tre sees it the same way by himself he was the worst of the 3I hate keyboard tough guys, Just pathetic.Your an idiot
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There needs to be someone or needed to be strong enough and adult enough in the conversation to explain to Matthews and Marner they can be together as a duo and apart and it depends on game situation for the betterment of the team. It’s never 100% one way or another and it’s just not a big deal. But good luck working with those guys to get a point across.
Or better yet, they’re smart enough, rational enough, team oriented enough to just come to that realization and have trust they can be good together and apart and force things to suit their personal agendas.
I’m not a tough guy at all but if you want to meet up over coffee and talk about it I’m more than down lol dont confuse me for somebody else buddy I promise you wrong guy
Its not that easy. Would you just pay him whatever he wants? But at 10.9 sure run it back
Keep….on a reasonable contract. However since that’s unlikely it’s more likely he walks.
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